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Edmundo said:
I'd be appalled if Dyke ran against Livingstone, who is an open supporter of the Lionel Road plans.
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I didn't realise Red Ken the Newt Kisser had a monopoly on supporting Lionel Road.

Just because Ken the **** supports Lionel Road, doesn't mean to say that other political parties cannot.
 

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he was on five live earliar, saying there should be a manager in the next day :sorted:
 

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abee said:
It's not an accusation of "libel"..... it is libel and if you cannot see the difference between gossip and abuse and what seems to me to be a clear statement by Royal Oak Bee that David Heath was responsible for leaking that Darren Patterson had got the Team Manager job before "the ink was dry on the contract" then I'm sorry for you. It's not a question of "giving some back" as you put it but you must be smart enough to know that.

There was also a story doing the rounds that David Heath was personally promoting Darren Patterson not because he necessarily believed he was the best person for the job but because Patterson would be bringing in a good friend of David's namely Andy Scott as Pattersons assistant manager. That was absolutely untrue and it's time that the people who promote these nudge, nudge wink, wink stories were hunted down and either put up and pay up or withdraw.

However if you believe and wish to add your name to Royal Oak Bee's allegation that David Heath as BFC director emailed Spider Bee to leak the information about Patterson and thus it was from David that the "leak" came through Spider Bee's post then please say so.
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Lets start with you first abee cos its about time someone shut you up.
I made no accusation! If I did sue me but I rather think if you pull your head out of your self gratifying arse for one minute you will read that I jokingly asked a question which is completely different from making a statement of fact.
Furthermore I will stand by belief that if only four people are on the selection panel and yet Spiderbee is able to post Patterson's name on here before the ink was dry on the contract then someone must have told him that Patterson was to be the next Manager? That surely is not an accusation merely a an obvious question? See you in court if you so wish.
I may not have your money abee but If I did I would treat fellow supporters of Brentford FC with a little more respect personally. Oh I forgot you regularly stump up your hard earned so you can just bully whoever you like if they disagree with your arguement or line of thinking.
 
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Nurse Betty said:
Er, hang on a minute. If you are so keen to smear the previous interview panel then surely that would mean Keith Dickens would not be involved either. In fact, neither would Greg Dyke. Or does his responsibility as Chair of the Board only come in to play when it's good news? And I don't even understand the bit I have put in bold though you are absolutely right - Fitz was not the choice of anyone on the interview panel. Patterson was.

Somewhere between the panel's recommendation to the Board that Patterson be offered the job and the end of the phone call between Keith Dickens who was tasked to offer the job to him, something went badly wrong. Some people believe it's because Patterson wasn't happy with the money. Unlike you, I don't have a hotline straight into the MD's office but you might be interested to ask him next time he's briefing you to post on here.

How do I know all this? Because I was on the BU Board and had every right to know.

Keith Dickens made an attempt last time to move the Club towards a professional method of appointing a manager. Personally, I can do without all this cloak-and-dagger, "I know a bloke..." type appointment process so I was quite happy with that. However, you are suggesting that Matthew Benham make the choice this time. Why? Do you want the Club's major decisions made by a single individual? His data will doubtless prove interesting reading for those involved in the hiring of the new manager but there is no way he should be calling the shots. Input, yes. Final say, no. And if he does have the final say, ROB, and the appointment is another disaster, will you be on here calling for his resignation?

Perhaps when you reply you could also inform us which lessons were learnt during the last interview process. I haven't seen them spelt out anywhere so I'm curious to know what has been identified as the mistakes and what is being done differently this time to avoid the same pitfalls.
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To answer your post and Banana's later post in one Allison, Keith Dikens remains the MD unless I have missed the latest leak. Brian Burgess the Chairman of BU. Neither have much knowledge of football so it would make sense for someone who has to nominate the candidates and for Brian to take charge with the club MD and interview the candidates (something I am sure they could handle between them). Once they have agreed it would mean that Bu and the club are stood together for once. To ensure they dont try to sign Jose Mourinho, MB as the egg that is expected to continually lay the Golden Goose if it all goes pear shape, is asked to endorse their decision.

Not a bad idea surely. Certainly not b***ockS as one very esteemed poster might have you all believe.

That KD remains involved is nothing to do with any favouritism on my part but because as I have stated earlier he is the MD is he not?
 

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RoyalOakBee said:
I made no accusation! If I did sue me but I rather think if you pull your head out of your self gratifying arse for one minute you will read that I jokingly asked a question which is completely different from making a statement of fact.
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Sorry to butt into your battle ROB but would you kindly explain to this simple soul how it is that

"Well to coin a phrase David, lets hope you and whoever dont make a b***ocks of it again this time! Or for that matter leak it again before the ink is dry on the contract!"

in your post 44 is anything other than a straightforward statement that David Heath leaked the Patterson 'news'? I think I'm a reasonably intelligent bloke but cannot see how that is said jokingly (unless of course I've had a sense of humour failure).
 

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ChorleyBee said:
Sorry to butt into your battle ROB but would you kindly explain to this simple soul how it is that

"Well to coin a phrase David, lets hope you and whoever dont make a b***ocks of it again this time! Or for that matter leak it again before the ink is dry on the contract!"

in your post 44 is anything other than a straightforward statement that David Heath leaked the Patterson 'news'? I think I'm a reasonably intelligent bloke but cannot see how that is said jokingly (unless of course I've had a sense of humour failure).
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here is the answer in bold.
I say "lets hope that BeeH and whoever" meaning whoever else is involved this time, (you will have to read back for an explanation of that arguement) do not
a) make a b***ocks of the whole appointment
b) leak news of the new appointment before it is made.

I never state as fact that David Heath or any of the other three, directly leaked the story last time to Spiderbee or anyone else.

The sense of humour came in my next post where in reply to Spiderbee saying he had emailed BeeH, I asked whether BeeH had emailed SpiderBee six months ago. I never asked or said what he might have emailed him about and by asking whether he ever did email SB, clearly I do not know that he did or did not, then or at any other time, in fact ever email him.

If I may continue, it seems very clear to me that however SB found out the news last time, it surely must logically, be able to be traced back to someone who was in the interview room at some time with the Panel? The news can only be leaked after it has happened surely? These are questions not statements of fact. SB knows the truth and has said his last words on the subject so we (the truly unwashed) may never find out his source!

Unless of course abee sues me for slander or defamation of character and maybe we could find out then.......
 
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So you are alleging that one of the interview panel was the source of the leak?
 

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ChorleyBee said:
Sorry to butt into your battle ROB but would you kindly explain to this simple soul how it is that

"Well to coin a phrase David, lets hope you and whoever dont make a b***ocks of it again this time! Or for that matter leak it again before the ink is dry on the contract!"

in your post 44 is anything other than a straightforward statement that David Heath leaked the Patterson 'news'? I think I'm a reasonably intelligent bloke but cannot see how that is said jokingly (unless of course I've had a sense of humour failure).
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:imwith:

Later posts are full of tortured syntax in an effort to make these simple words mean something else.
 

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RoyalOakBee said:
Lets start with you first abee cos its about time someone shut you up.
I made no accusation! If I did sue me but I rather think if you pull your head out of your self gratifying arse for one minute you will read that I jokingly asked a question which is completely different from making a statement of fact.
Furthermore I will stand by belief that if only four people are on the selection panel and yet Spiderbee is able to post Patterson's name on here before the ink was dry on the contract then someone must have told him that Patterson was to be the next Manager? That surely is not an accusation merely a an obvious question? See you in court if you so wish.
I may not have your money abee but If I did I would treat fellow supporters of Brentford FC with a little more respect personally. Oh I forgot you regularly stump up your hard earned so you can just bully whoever you like if they disagree with your arguement or line of thinking.
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Nine hours later what happened was keith at the barbers?
 

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RoyalOakBee said:
here is the answer in bold.
I say "lets hope that BeeH and whoever" meaning whoever else is involved this time, (you will have to read back for an explanation of that arguement) do not
a) make a b***ocks of the whole appointment
b) leak news of the new appointment before it is made.

I never state as fact that David Heath or any of the other three, directly leaked the story last time to Spiderbee or anyone else.

The sense of humour came in my next post where in reply to Spiderbee saying he had emailed BeeH, I asked whether BeeH had emailed SpiderBee six months ago. I never asked or said what he might have emailed him about and by asking whether he ever did email SB, clearly I do not know that he did or did not, then or at any other time, in fact ever email him.

If I may continue, it seems very clear to me that however SB found out the news last time, it surely must logically, be able to be traced back to someone who was in the interview room at some time with the Panel? The news can only be leaked after it has happened surely? These are questions not statements of fact. SB knows the truth and has said his last words on the subject so we (the truly unwashed) may never find out his source!

Unless of course abee sues me for slander or defamation of character and maybe we could find out then.......
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I'll be there.:thetruth:
10am Isleworth?:fishing:
 

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Simon C said:
So you are alleging that one of the interview panel was the source of the leak?
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This is like a playground court room.
I am making no accusation whatsoever.
I am merely asking whether someone who had access to the panel or who had access to the applicants must be the source to SB? Is that not logical?
Is SB clairvoyant? Did he see it in a chrystal ball?
NO someone told him. That someone must have been very close to the whole process or how else would they have known the decision the panel had come too? Whoever told SB, by doing so it turned the whole process and the club into a laughing stock and made a mockery of the ability of the selection panel to complete their task. However, we are now entrusting the same process to the same people and I think that is madness! It is my personal opinion and if others disagree that is fine. If KD disagrees that is fine. IF JG, DH and IJ disagree that is also fine but if any director ever swears or uses the language that Bee H continually throws in my direction, then I will continue to question their suitability to hold office!
I ****ing hate bullies and this site has four or five posters who are the worst types of bullies, the ones that hide behind their keyboards and or their wallets!
 
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RoyalOakBee said:
no need, if I fish enough it will come out in print. Computers are not the only mode of communication I use!:D
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Hello Sherlock, you make your accusation ("Well to coin a phrase David, lets hope you and whoever dont make a b***ocks of it again this time! Or for that matter leak it again before the ink is dry on the contract!"), and then when challenged changed your story to be one of four people ("will stand by belief that if only four people are on the selection panel and yet Spiderbee is able to post Patterson's name on here before the ink was dry on the contract then someone must have told him that Patterson was to be the next Manager?"), then widened it a bit further ("it surely must logically, be able to be traced back to someone who was in the interview room at some time with the Panel?"), then even further ("someone who had access to the panel or who had access to the applicants must be the source to SB")

To summarise: with each post your cast of suspects gets bigger and bigger. I thought you had this one nailed :rolleyes:

But we all know what you meant in the first place
 

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Could it not have come from someone with access to the knowledge from Patterson? He knew he had the job he told people at Oxford and SB appears to have many contacts in the non league game,
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Banana said:
Hello Sherlock, you make your accusation ("Well to coin a phrase David, lets hope you and whoever dont make a b***ocks of it again this time! Or for that matter leak it again before the ink is dry on the contract!"), and then when challenged changed your story to be one of four people ("will stand by belief that if only four people are on the selection panel and yet Spiderbee is able to post Patterson's name on here before the ink was dry on the contract then someone must have told him that Patterson was to be the next Manager?"), then widened it a bit further ("it surely must logically, be able to be traced back to someone who was in the interview room at some time with the Panel?"), then even further ("someone who had access to the panel or who had access to the applicants must be the source to SB")

But we all know what you meant in the first place
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Yeah, you tell him Watson.lol
(I didn't understand a word of this really but I don't want to look stupid before the big day tomorrow)!;)
 

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Gee Bee said:
Could it not have come from someone with access to the knowledge from Patterson? He knew he had the job he told people at Oxford and SB appears to have many contacts in the non league game,
:idea:
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Nice idea........but...............NO!:wave:
 

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Banana said:
Hello Sherlock, you make your accusation ("Well to coin a phrase David, lets hope you and whoever dont make a b***ocks of it again this time! Or for that matter leak it again before the ink is dry on the contract!"), and then when challenged changed your story to be one of four people ("will stand by belief that if only four people are on the selection panel and yet Spiderbee is able to post Patterson's name on here before the ink was dry on the contract then someone must have told him that Patterson was to be the next Manager?"), then widened it a bit further ("it surely must logically, be able to be traced back to someone who was in the interview room at some time with the Panel?"), then even further ("someone who had access to the panel or who had access to the applicants must be the source to SB")

But we all know what you meant in the first place
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Hello Rumpole, can you highlight an accusation please? abee will have to prove in a court of law that I implied one person alone to be responsible for the previous leak. Others can interpret my words how they like but you have to prove that I have slandered someone and if abee wants to waste his money lets go and see if he can prove I did indeed do so!
In my defence I will say that I am hoping for the process to be a success rather than a failure and for the news to be communicated properly through the right club channels and not through the Griffin Grapevine....oops did I miss out the word Park? sorry.
abee when challenged throws the slander threat like he does a long sentence, regularly and without a thought!
:sueme:
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Christ! I hope I'm not called up for jury service if this one ever gets that far. I have spent much of my working life studying the words of politicians and have seen more than enough mangled syntax and loose use of words not to mention blatant untruths so I could do without it here as well. The whole point of messageboards like this is so that half truths, rumours, and complete conjecture get an airing amongst the odd hard fact - that's half the fun of it surely? Anyway, to get back to GD, he would be eaten alive if he tries to enter politics. The Labour machine took him to the cleaners a couple of years ago and must be rubbing their hands together at the thought of doing it again. Much as libel lawyers rub their hands together at the thought of a misguided writ.
 

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RoyalOakBee said:
Hello Rumpole, can you highlight an accusation please?
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Here you go:

"David, lets hope you and whoever dont (sic) make a b***ocks of it again this time! Or for that matter leak it again before the ink is dry on the contract"

Notice you said "you (David) and whoever"

Your accusation is that David (and others) i) made a "b***ocks of it" ii) leaked it. The use of the word "again" (twice) confirms that you are accusing David (and others) of what they did before (i.e. not this time).
 

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Banana said:
Here you go:

"David, lets hope you and whoever dont (sic) make a b***ocks of it again this time! Or for that matter leak it again before the ink is dry on the contract"

Notice you said "you (David) and whoever"

Your accusation is that David (and others) i) made a "b***ocks of it" ii) leaked it. The use of the word "again" (twice) confirms that you are accusing David (and others) of what they did before (i.e. not this time).
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I think you need to go back a lot further in the thread Trev! Your interpretation of one post suits your arguement, my interpretation will suit mine. Lets see if it goes to court shall we?

Now on another matter, if you, abee or beeh have not got anything better to do with your time than threaten me with legal proceedings just because I took offence to the nature of DH's post then this club really is ****ed. If any of you ever take up a senior role within Brentford Football Club God help us. If you want to see backtracking mate highlight DH's two posts on this thread, sadly he stopped short of joining you, Mark, Greg, Keith, Tash,Allison, Stedders and the rest of the sorry brigade and instead we have his "financier" and personel manager throwing his weight and money around.
If he or you think I will back down to those bullying tactics then you picked on the wrong bloke!
 

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Wise old Bee said:
Christ! I hope I'm not called up for jury service if this one ever gets that far. I have spent much of my working life studying the words of politicians and have seen more than enough mangled syntax and loose use of words not to mention blatant untruths so I could do without it here as well. The whole point of messageboards like this is so that half truths, rumours, and complete conjecture get an airing amongst the odd hard fact - that's half the fun of it surely? Anyway, to get back to GD, he would be eaten alive if he tries to enter politics. The Labour machine took him to the cleaners a couple of years ago and must be rubbing their hands together at the thought of doing it again. Much as libel lawyers rub their hands together at the thought of a misguided writ.
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:laugh:
 

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Well I reckon Professor Plum did it with the mobile phone in the boardroom!:wave:

Nearly Thursday chaps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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How crap is this thread? Get a room you lot.
 

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:zzzzz:
As a complete outsider, having started to read the posts as it all looked a bit juicy to being astounded at some of what has been written, I think this sort of argument should be kept private and not posted on this thread.

:nono:
 

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tigerflyer said:
:zzzzz:
As a complete outsider, having started to read the posts as it all looked a bit juicy to being astounded at some of what has been written, I think this sort of argument should be kept private and not posted on this thread.

:nono:
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Hmmmm. I take it then that you are a complete insider because otherwise why would you be bothered about what is being discussed on here? One of the strengths of the GPG is that it keeps fans better informed about what is going on at GP than any other organisation, especially the Club. This thread has descended into a pub car park fistfight (Banana, I have asked before that we have a forum called Car Park so that people can take it (virtually) outside but no, you don't listen to me...) and if you find it distasteful or shocking, I suggest you don't log in again. Being a "complete outsider" you obviously wouldn't be interested anyway...
 

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RoyalOakBee said:
I think you need to go back a lot further in the thread Trev! Your interpretation of one post suits your arguement, my interpretation will suit mine. Lets see if it goes to court shall we?

Now on another matter, if you, abee or beeh have not got anything better to do with your time than threaten me with legal proceedings just because I took offence to the nature of DH's post then this club really is ****ed. If any of you ever take up a senior role within Brentford Football Club God help us. If you want to see backtracking mate highlight DH's two posts on this thread, sadly he stopped short of joining you, Mark, Greg, Keith, Tash,Allison, Stedders and the rest of the sorry brigade and instead we have his "financier" and personel manager throwing his weight and money around.
If he or you think I will back down to those bullying tactics then you picked on the wrong bloke!
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:scratch: I assume you mean 'sorry' as in a pathetic excuse for something?
 

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RoyalOakBee said:
I think you need to go back a lot further in the thread Trev! Your interpretation of one post suits your arguement, my interpretation will suit mine. Lets see if it goes to court shall we?
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That is what you wrote and that is a FACT!

RoyalOakBee said:
Now on another matter, if you,......... have not got anything better to do with your time than threaten me with legal proceedings
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WTF are you on about? Get your facts right.

RoyalOakBee said:
you, Mark, Greg, Keith, Tash,Allison, Stedders and the rest of the sorry brigade
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WTF are you on about? Get your facts right.
 

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abee said:
Diddums.......lol
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I used to think you were one of the more mature posters on here and enjoyed reading your views, even if some of then did ramble on a bit like a rejected puppy dog. However, based on a reply of Diddums lol , you obviously need to spend a bit more time away from your keyboard. Don't even bother with a 'double diddums' reply.
 

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Time to get this man in to break this up!!! What was Gregs update again....
 

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kendo said:
Time to get this man in to break this up!!! What was Gregs update again....
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Something about some manager chappy. I don't know. Forgotten.

Assume the interview was not successful one side or t'other though because I think we would have had a name by now.
 

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Good morning ROB, hopefully today has been a better day for you as you seem to have got a little stressed of late by attempting to blow out of all proportions a comment made 'about' a post of yours ? :shrug:

The Patterson leak did not come from me or anyone on the selection panel or from anyone who knows Patterson - I understand Jim Levack (a Bees fan who I haven't always seen eye to eye with) is aware of the source and perhaps Jim, if you read this, you could simply confirm the above to be correct or incorrect please then ROB hopefully will drop the aggression and bitterness.

There's been a good attempt at slagging me off by you ROB this week but it's water off a ducks back I'm afraid so probably best if you pop down to the chemists and ask for a
 

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Nurse Betty said:
Hmmmm. I take it then that you are a complete insider because otherwise why would you be bothered about what is being discussed on here? One of the strengths of the GPG is that it keeps fans better informed about what is going on at GP than any other organisation, especially the Club. This thread has descended into a pub car park fistfight (Banana, I have asked before that we have a forum called Car Park so that people can take it (virtually) outside but no, you don't listen to me...) and if you find it distasteful or shocking, I suggest you don't log in again. Being a "complete outsider" you obviously wouldn't be interested anyway...
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Calm down dear, it's only a comment! No need to have a go at me, I am mere supporter who has learnt much from the GPG that I never knew existed, however I think if people are involved in BU/BFC and insults and accusations are being slung about - this is not for the general public to read about and should be kept amongst the board member and ex-board members and those who obviously have some sort of interest or connection to those on the board!

If we have people, like you who tell supporters not to log in again to the GPG and who have supported Brentford for over 40 years, just because they dare to suggest that some of the postings should be kept private, then it is a very sorry state of affairs. Do you honestly think that people want to read about the ins and outs and arguements and accusations of who said what to whom/leaked information etc and petty squabbles that have come after it,when simply reading a thread entitled Gregs update :nono: If you do, then you are very much mistaken
 

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Bee H said:
Good morning ROB, hopefully today has been a better day for you as you seem to have got a little stressed of late by attempting to blow out of all proportions a comment made 'about' a post of yours ? :shrug:

The Patterson leak did not come from me or anyone on the selection panel or from anyone who knows Patterson - I understand Jim Levack (a Bees fan who I haven't always seen eye to eye with) is aware of the source and perhaps Jim, if you read this, you could simply confirm the above to be correct or incorrect please then ROB hopefully will drop the aggression and bitterness.

There's been a good attempt at slagging me off by you ROB this week but it's water off a ducks back I'm afraid so probably best if you pop down to the chemists and ask for a
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Well Jim if you could respond it would be helpful.ROB can get back to pulling pints and maybe give Keiths' car a good wash.
 

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If this thread's anything like the club's being run then we're really f*****
 

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JBN said:
How much of his multi millions has Dyke put in?

Answer - about £100,000.

Dyke is a figure head chairman no more, no less.

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correct
 
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