Highest League Position Since...

[Banana]

...when. A thread to remember when we were last in this position in the football pyramid.

Any idea?

 

[ruislip bee]

...when. A thread to remember when we were last in this position in the football pyramid.

Any idea?

Not in my lifetime.

 

[Pixelator]

If we draw or win on Wednesday, I'd say that'd probably be the equal highest position since February 1947 when we dropped to 21st in Division 1 and stayed there.

 

[wanderer paul]

Probably since we were relegated in May 1947.

Still, it’s only taken 74 years to get within 2 places of it!!!

Oh, hang on. Div 1 in 1946/47 had 22 teams in it.

Therefore, in theory, IF - jinxed it now ? - we go top on Wednesday, then we are, technically, 21st in the pyramid!! ?

So we match that relegation place!!

?

 

[Darren J]

1st game 2018/19 season beat Rotherham 5-1 and were top for a week.

 

[vcmazz]

Were we not top two at any point during the run in last season?

 

[wanderer paul]

Were we not top two at any point during the run in last season?

No...

 

[abee]

...when. A thread to remember when we were last in this position in the football pyramid.

Any idea?

We were 2nd on at least one occasion before Xmas 1951 in the 1951/2 season in the old Division Two.

P.S. Just checked and we moved up to 2nd on October 27th 1951 and stayed there for the following two weeks.

 

[wanderer paul]

We were 2nd on at least one occasion before Xmas 1951 in the 1951/2 season in the old Division Two.

P.S. Just checked and we moved up to 2nd on October 27th 1951 and stayed there for the following two weeks.

Good spot

1951-10-27

 

[PhilE]

1st game 2018/19 season beat Rotherham 5-1 and were top for a week.

We were also 2nd for a week or so a few games in. This is highest this late into the season for quite a while.

 

[wanderer paul]

Someone questioned on saturday, IIRC on the match thread, if this was the quickest we've scored 50+ goals in the League? (Pld 27 F 52 on 6/2/2021)

The answer is no. There are at least 6 seasons - where I've checked quickly - where Brentford has scored 50 or more goals quicker.

The quickest, to my knowledge, was 1934/1935 - Pld 19 F 51 (on 15/12/1934).

The most recent, that I could find quickly, was in 1982/1983. Pld 23 F 50 (on 3/1/1983).

If anyone thinks there's a quicker more recent season or a better record, then find it!

 

[Banana]

Good job all.

Get the facts ready for late on Wednesday evening!

 

[SH]

The most recent, that I could find quickly, was in 1982/1983. Pld 23 F 50 (on 3/1/1983).

If anyone thinks there's a quicker more recent season or a better record, then find it!

Great thread. Thanks to everyone concerned. 1982/83... the great "what if?" season. If only Gary Roberts hadn't scored an injury-time equaliser away at Swindon in the FAC Cup 2nd round, then Toney Mahoney wouldn't have been playing in a replay three days later . He and Francis Joseph were scoring at better than a goal a game between them until then. And Kamara, Bowles and Roberts were all banging them in too. Shame we didn't bother defending. If only...

By way of next best - psychologically if not statistically - I offer you the 1991-92 season. Reaching 50 goals took 31 games (February 15th 1992), but it did put us where we belonged:

 

[Jay Bee]

Did we make it to 2nd place in the league in 2014/15? If I recall correctly we were never top but would have gone top for a few hours on Boxing Day if we'd beaten Ipswich (we didn't). But it makes me think we were close enough that we could have been second around that time.

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

Did we make it to 2nd place in the league in 2014/15? If I recall correctly we were never top but would have gone top for a few hours on Boxing Day if we'd beaten Ipswich (we didn't). But it makes me think we were close enough that we could have been second around that time.

I was thinking exactly the same.

 

[wanderer paul]

Did we make it to 2nd place in the league in 2014/15? If I recall correctly we were never top but would have gone top for a few hours on Boxing Day if we'd beaten Ipswich (we didn't). But it makes me think we were close enough that we could have been second around that time.

No. We stayed 3rd.

I think 2nd was best, due to goal difference.

 

[North London Bee]

Weren’t we second after winning at Leeds just before Warburtongate?

 

[wanderer paul]

Weren’t we second after winning at Leeds just before Warburtongate?

7/2/2015? No. Fourth.

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[Mikey Bee]

Whilst it's interesting to see how long since we were last in 2nd/1st mid-season, where we are on May 8th is all that matters to me.

 

[North London Bee]

7/2/2015? No. Fourth.

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I remember Sri I g back afterwards thinking we are going up - then all hell broke out the following week and we were Stroud-Ed against Watford.

 

[Paul O'Brien]

Someone questioned on saturday, IIRC on the match thread, if this was the quickest we've scored 50+ goals in the League? (Pld 27 F 52 on 6/2/2021)

The answer is no. There are at least 6 seasons - where I've checked quickly - where Brentford has scored 50 or more goals quicker.

The quickest, to my knowledge, was 1934/1935 - Pld 19 F 51 (on 15/12/1934).

The most recent, that I could find quickly, was in 1982/1983. Pld 23 F 50 (on 3/1/1983).

If anyone thinks there's a quicker more recent season or a better record, then find it!

Thanks, wanderer paul. You may be referring to me - I asked "Just wondering: today saw us score our 50th goal of the League season, in the 27th match. Have we reached that milestone faster, and if so, when? Possibly in 62-63 I guess, but I also seem to recall a free-scoring first half of the season in the 1980, maybe when we won or were runners-up in the Standard London Goals Challenge or whatever it was called.

Over to you, Bees history experts... "

That 1934-35 stat is amazing. I'd never have guessed that we'd have reached the 50 goals mark so quickly.

 

[Herbert]

When was tge last timw we were 1st at this level ?

 

[busheybee]

Were we not top two at any point during the run in last season?

No but I seem to vaguely recall we had a couple of opportunities to do so.......??

 

[Guildford Bee]

No...

We were briefly for a few minutes on the final day, if that counts....

 

[PhilE]

When was the last timw we were 1st at this level ?

Strictly speaking after the first day 5-1 defeat of Rotherham in 18/19.

However if you want to look at a proper table it would be pre 1954.

 

[badgerbee]

Were we not top two at any point during the run in last season?

As mentioned on a separate thread....

We were 2nd for the first 38 minutes v Stoke (until they scored) and for 7 minutes in the final game of the season v Barnsley (between minute 34, when QPR went 1 up at WBA, and minute 41, when Barnsley went 1 up at GP.......)
Not that any of this is etched into my heart of course.......??????

 

[PhilE]

As mentioned on a separate thread....

We were 2nd for the first 38 minutes v Stoke (until they scored) and for 7 minutes in the final game of the season v Barnsley (between minute 34, when QPR went 1 up at WBA, and minute 41, when Barnsley went 1 up at GP.......)
Not that any of this is etched into my heart of course.......??????

We also were during the Leeds match...etched on my camera roll.

 

[vcmazz]

We also were during the Leeds match...etched on my camera roll.
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I think I'm going to be sick.

 

[Hungerford Bee]

We also were during the Leeds match...etched on my camera roll.
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Bees up Fulham down - but not in a good way

 

[Delbee]

Some points for now and onwards

1) can we at least get a point tomorrow, I want a win
2) is it more pressure to get to top of the league
3) is it more pressure to remain top of the league

 

[liverbee]

The As It Stands table doesn't count. It was after Rotherham- which didn't count for long. This is different.

 

[Invipai]

I'm not sure the day 01 table should count either ? But technically it should I suppose.

Such a shame we went on a five game winless run after that Leeds game, we were in touching distance then!

Conversely after the Leeds game we were on 54 points after 32 played. We're currently on 54 points with 27 played. Good signs but now we just need one of our two main rivals to drop off...

 

[badgerbee]

The As It Stands table doesn't count. It was after Rotherham- which didn't count for long. This is different.

Well it certainly 'counted' for me during the Barnsley game when Rangers wet 1 up at WBA..............

 

[liverbee]

Well it certainly 'counted' for me during the Barnsley game when Rangers wet 1 up at WBA..............

You're making it worse now.

 

[ruislip bee]

Well it certainly 'counted' for me during the Barnsley game when Rangers wet 1 up at WBA..............

Please stop now.

 

[Alan D]

I surpose technically as we kick off tonight we will be top of the league. Lets hope we are still in that position at full time.

 

[TW3Bee]

Did we make it to 2nd place in the league in 2014/15? If I recall correctly we were never top but would have gone top for a few hours on Boxing Day if we'd beaten Ipswich (we didn't).

Went behind after about 19 seconds I think.

 

[horshambees]

Someone questioned on saturday, IIRC on the match thread, if this was the quickest we've scored 50+ goals in the League? (Pld 27 F 52 on 6/2/2021)

The answer is no. There are at least 6 seasons - where I've checked quickly - where Brentford has scored 50 or more goals quicker.

The quickest, to my knowledge, was 1934/1935 - Pld 19 F 51 (on 15/12/1934).

The most recent, that I could find quickly, was in 1982/1983. Pld 23 F 50 (on 3/1/1983).

If anyone thinks there's a quicker more recent season or a better record, then find it!

Was myself Paul.
Thanks for the answer.

 

[Jim O Reardon]

If we draw or win on Wednesday, I'd say that'd probably be the equal highest position since February 1947 when we dropped to 21st in Division 1 and stayed there.

 

[Invipai]

??

 

[Jim O Reardon]

That’s when my dad took me to Chelsea 1947 I was 9 74 years a supporter my school was in Brook Road

 

[Pixelator]

Got it. On March 8th 1947 we were 20th in Division 1, never been top 20 since then.

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[SH]

Got it. On March 8th 1947 we were 20th in Division 1, never been top 20 since then.

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We started the day in 20th, but didn't have a game. Huddersfield played and won 3-0, dropping us into the relegation places... never to recover

 

[Delbee]

Just looked through Swansea’s game in hand is Blackburn away 9th March

 

[Herbert]

Strictly speaking after the first day 5-1 defeat of Rotherham in 18/19.

However if you want to look at a proper table it would be pre 1954.

Am i right that it would have been 1935 promotion season ?

 

[MDW82]

We also were during the Leeds match...etched on my camera roll.
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So great that we are on more points after 4 fewer games this season.