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Hunt's long throw

Are we the only team who haven't worked out how to make use of a long throw in? Every throw we get within his range goes straight to the Goalie!!

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I thought you were going down the club.........:fishing:

I agree they are inconsistent (sometimes flat, sometimes high) and nowhere near the danger area most of the time
 

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We have been really poor ever since Hunt came into the side
 

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hanworthbee said:
We have been really poor ever since Hunt came into the side
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Not true against bournemouth or accy.
I think Hunt is trying some variety but at 2 down and 3 down you can understand the need to get the ball in the box directly
 

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we don't look dangerous with it for sure and there is no variety on them. and he only takes them when around the area. why not try some from half way line to get to our players.

i just don't want to see them anymore!
 

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The players should watch endless videos of Stoke City to see how they take such good advantage of Delap's throws.

The temptation for the thrower is to launch the ball as far a possible which generally ends up with it on the defenders head or in the keepers hands. The key IMHO is accuracy - a bit like a rugby lineout. Hence training should be for Hunt to consistently hit a spot and for the players to be on that spot either for a flick-on over the advancing keeper/defender or a full attempt on goal :sorted:.
 

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I hate this long throw now, we never get anywhere near the fecking ball.
 

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In my opinion, it hasn't brought us anything more than what Kev did for us, when he was in the side.
Don't particularly like a central midfielder taking throw in's full stop, it leaves us open in my mind.
 

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I've been saying it for weeks, the throws do not work, when will AS notice! Hunt may as well throw it out for a goal kick.
 

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The goal at Bournemouth came following a short defensive throw by Hunt to Newton. Although it didn't directly result in the goal, because Newton's cross into the box was headed out, the effect was to build up pressure outside the area where the attack had more options, and we ended up with a vital goal.
 

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kempy said:
According to Nathan, when I asked him at Bournemouth, they do practice them and 9 times out of 10 they pay off.
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yes, but thats with Simon Brown in the opposition goal :sorted::fishing::sneakoff:
 

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kempy said:
According to Nathan, when I asked him at Bournemouth, they do practice them and 9 times out of 10 they pay off.
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Oh dear we're obviously even worse at defending from them then we are at attacking from them.
That's saying something as Hunt must have taken hundreds by now and I can't remember us making a chance yet.
 

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8 Bee said:
The players should watch endless videos of Stoke City to see how they take such good advantage of Delap's throws.

The temptation for the thrower is to launch the ball as far a possible which generally ends up with it on the defenders head or in the keepers hands. The key IMHO is accuracy - a bit like a rugby lineout. Hence training should be for Hunt to consistently hit a spot and for the players to be on that spot either for a flick-on over the advancing keeper/defender or a full attempt on goal :sorted:.
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Hunt does appear to have modified his throw he now throws lower and shorter, probably because no one was getting on the end of the longer throws the main problem is we dont seem to attack the ball enough.
 

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all feckin season long we've looked good playing football to feet & sh*t playing long ball, so why we're now playing the long-ball game with every throw-in we get is beyond me.
 

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Rather see a 2 yard throw to a Bee than a 35 yarder to the oppo..................ain't feckin rocket science is it?
 

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Worth using as an occasional weapon - as long as we put a big guy around the near post - but we shouldn't over-do it
 

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I seem to recall Shrewsbury fans saying that Hunt's throws generally produced little. Which makes you wonder if they did have more impact whether Shrews would have kept him around, as an accurate long bullet throw is a fantastic weapon.
 

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hanworthbee said:
We have been really poor ever since Hunt came into the side
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change that to 'ever since kev has been out' and you may have a point.
having said that, hunt has been a surprise IMO and his general play is pretty good.
agree that we haven't profited enough from his throws, which is a shame. if we were, i'd say there was a strong case for him keeping kev out of the side, but as it is... but i think kev gives us a better platform to play from and doesn't seem inclined to hit the ball long every time.
 

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hanworthbee said:
We have been really poor ever since Hunt came into the side
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A bit harsh ?
Mind you weren't we told Kev was back for Bratford ?...........his injury must be a LOT worse than expected, he doesn't even make the bench now :fishing:
 

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I don't really rate him. Good throws (they mount to nothing, don't know who is to fault there), good free kick, makes the odd good tackle, but nothing much else tbh.
 

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shouldbee said:
A bit harsh ?
Mind you weren't we told Kev was back for Bratford ?...........his injury must be a LOT worse than expected, he doesn't even make the bench now :fishing:
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...most injured players don't make the bench of their respective teams...

FACT !
 

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brentfordbeehive said:
I don't really rate him. Good throws (they mount to nothing, don't know who is to fault there), good free kick, makes the odd good tackle, but nothing much else tbh.
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Without the (direct) contribution of David Hunt we would be on 77 points right now, if it's not squeaky bum time now, how would you fancy going into the last two games with 77 points? . Apart from Scoring against Wycombe and Gillingham he was arguably our best player in two extremely crucial games. He definitely has played his part and the throws you never know might come good when we need them too, especially if Spencer is in the box.
 
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Ghost said:
Without the (direct) contribution of David Hunt we would be on 77 points right now, if it's not squeaky bum time now, how would you fancy going into the last two games with 77 points? . Apart from Scoring against Wycombe and Gillingham he was arguably our best player in two extremely crucial games. He definitely has played his part and the throws you never know might come good when we need them too.
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You cannot say that at all - how can you say that if Hunt hadn't scored those free kicks we wouldn't have scored by other means? You are going into the 'what ifs' territory, which is not advisable.

He has played his part, but so has the rest of the team. I personally think Craig Pead could play in the current team and get away with it, because the spine of the team is so strong.
 

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I lkie Dave Hunt but his throw hasn't helped us the way Delap's has helped Stoke. No problem using the long throw but doing it EVERYTIME we get a throw is predictable and doesn't work as dont have a plan for it.
 

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hanworthbee said:
our worst run of the season combined with witnessing the poorest games have been when he came into the side (or on the other hand since Kevs been out)
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This happened last year after KOC got injured at Mansfield (assuming we overlook the first 4 or 5 months of appalling displays and results under Butcher). Kev is a bit of an unsung hero who sits in front of our back 4 and does a lot of the messy stuff and getting in amongst things where it matters. Hunt has done better than I'd feared but results have tailed off a bit since Kev got injured. Hunt has a nice touch and can play some good dead balls, maybe worth a punt at right midfield if Kev is ready to come back.
 

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hanworthbee said:
We have been really poor ever since Hunt came into the side
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that is just an awful and untrue statement, he has filled the gap left by kev's injury perfectly, he has been a great signing
 

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what is it with all the negativity !!!!!!! any other team wouldnt be complaining if they were top of the league.
 

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Our long throw is easy to defend. It goes to the same place every time :( Maybe we are saving the element of surprise for a future game :rolleyes:
 

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Hunt has played well since he has come into the side and played a vital part in securing some key points that have us sitting where we are.

I agree that we miss Kev and Hunt's throws don't have a massive impact but to say that he has been 'rubbish' or our bad form is down to his involvement is short sighted and wrong!:wave:
 

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mundee4england said:
Hunt has played well since he has come into the side and played a vital part in securing some key points that have us sitting where we are.

I agree that we miss Kev and Hunt's throws don't have a massive impact but to say that he has been 'rubbish' or our bad form is down to his involvement is short sighted and wrong!:wave:
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Agree....apart fromn his goals he has also laid on another two. The long throw failures is not down to him...someone must attack the ball for it to work and that is not happening so not his fault
 

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brentfordbeehive said:
You cannot say that at all - how can you say that if Hunt hadn't scored those free kicks we wouldn't have scored by other means? You are going into the 'what ifs' territory, which is not advisable.
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You're right, but you know what I meant :) my point was just to emphasise his contribution could prove massive.
 

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They haven't done much for us at the moment - but that's not necessarily a reason to say they never will. The problem for us is that we don't have enough players in the box who are big enough to cause trouble (especially considering some of the giants we've played last season), imo, although too many of the throws are not flat enough.

I also think it would be interesting to look at the ratio of Delap's throws that actually result in goals. I'd bet it's not as high as everyone thinks...

All in all, I'd say they can be a useful weapon, but we need to mix it up much more. With more variety, I think there'd be more chance of a defensive mistake on one.
 

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Some of Delap's seem to come from further away from the goal (further up towards the halfway line I mean) which means they come in towards the goal/goalie which presumably makes them a bit easier to flick on for big target men. If they're coming across they appear to be easier to defend. Would prefer to keep it as an occasional threat with an element of surprise rather than something we do every single time.
 

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The whole problem with that long throw is that all our players are the wrong side of
the defenders????? It doesn't take much imagination to do a quick dart forward and
then flick it on with yer head to the danger zone.
 

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moribee said:
Agree....apart fromn his goals he has also laid on another two.
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Tbh, I didn't see too many games early season (i.e. when Kevin O'C was playing), but more recently Hunt has looked OK to me in his general play - nothing special, but hardly a 'passenger', either.

moribee said:
The long throw failures is not down to him...someone must attack the ball for it to work and that is not happening so not his fault
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Indeed. I suspect it may not be coincidence that the Bees have lost 3 (4?) strikers to injury in the last few weeks i.e. the guys who might have been being drilled on the training pitch by Andy Scott to get on the end of those throw-ins, or the flick-ons resulting from them?
 

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I think the poor bloke's been knackered a lot of the time recently. He's been taking the free kicks, the corners, and then dragged over to the touchline for long throws as well. Yes, it needs to be varied, e.g. long throw to Poole on the edge of the box to shoot/ create something, but surely somebody else can also kick a dead ball from the right?
 

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..................on a variation yesterday........................
 
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