Igor Thiago (1 Viewer)

[damsgard.szn]

If we're actually serious about giving the cups a go this year I'd argue we do. I get Dango has played there before and we've got a big game on Saturday but I'd rather start Igor and swap him for Kev after an hour than the other way round.

not really sure if this year giving cups is a smart idea, and yes i know very hypocritical of me. however think of everything, Keith’s first season should be to keep us up, Ive said my piece about transfers, we replaced very well IMO. In terms of comfortability, I think we are a striker short. Andrew’s has shown a way which he will want to play, that involves a big striker. An injury to Igor sees no natural replacement, and a replacement that not only is of a different profile from IT (dango/Schade) but also takes one of our two best wingers out of their better positions, which we can all agree we would rather do that in the cup compared to the league.

 

[Kingston Bee]

If we're actually serious about giving the cups a go this year I'd argue we do. I get Dango has played there before and we've got a big game on Saturday but I'd rather start Igor and swap him for Kev after an hour than the other way round.

Exactly, what i was thinking also.

 

[BuzzingBee95]

I can understand some arguing he should be rested, but for me, he should start.

We're very early into the season, and he's been out for a long time, so the more exposure he can get the better for me. Yes, I don't want to see him being run ragged. But at this level, if your fitness is going to survive the majority of the season, the odd two games a week should not be a huge risk.

Plus, although he did well against Chelsea, he went long periods without too much involvement, this is a very different prospect and a further opportunity to really work on his interplay up top.

So for me it's less to do with giving the cup a proper go and more making up for the time missed to really harness his game

 

[beesupfulhamdown!]

I can understand some arguing he should be rested, but for me, he should start.

We're very early into the season, and he's been out for a long time, so the more exposure he can get the better for me. Yes, I don't want to see him being run ragged. But at this level, if your fitness is going to survive the majority of the season, the odd two games a week should not be a huge risk.

Plus, although he did well against Chelsea, he went long periods without too much involvement, this is a very different prospect and a further opportunity to really work on his interplay up top.

So for me it's less to do with giving the cup a proper go and more making up for the time missed to really harness his game

So we risk him for a cup game when there are others who can play down the middle eg dango the most sensible thing is to rest him for fulham surely ?

 

[Freebee]

He cramped up on Saturday he doesn't need overloading.

 

[Ghost]

I can understand some arguing he should be rested, but for me, he should start.

We're very early into the season, and he's been out for a long time, so the more exposure he can get the better for me. Yes, I don't want to see him being run ragged. But at this level, if your fitness is going to survive the majority of the season, the odd two games a week should not be a huge risk.

Plus, although he did well against Chelsea, he went long periods without too much involvement, this is a very different prospect and a further opportunity to really work on his interplay up top.

So for me it's less to do with giving the cup a proper go and more making up for the time missed to really harness his game

Agreed if he was fine after pulling up.

If not, lock him in the hyperbaric chamber.

 

[BuzzingBee95]

So we risk him for a cup game when there are others who can play down the middle eg dango the most sensible thing is to rest him for fulham surely ?

As I said, I can absolutely understand the reasons for not playing him (especially if him pulling up suggests he's not completely fit).

But say we were talking about Ivan, right. Then absolutely, resting him would be fine, because you're talking about a player who's flourished in the league, has wholly adapted to the top levels and therefore we know next time out he'll be devastating.

I just think with Igor, yes you need to manage his fitness delciately, but I actually think passing up playing opportunities won't be doing his game any favours at the moment. I would mcuh rather he gets say a 70 minute run out, perhaps scores, perhaps creates something and therefore go into the Fulham game on the back of that.

In short, an Igor Thiago that scores tonight, perhaps makes things happen, is a better Igor Thiago, than one whose last game was feeding off scraps and will now be expected to be far more involved against Fulham

 

[hanworthbee]

Doesn't need to start..only the league matters

 

[roadealing]

I’d be surprised if he starts tbh, but only the medical team will know what he needs at this point in the season.

But I’d rather get knocked out of the Cup than Thiago not be available or fully fit for Fulham.

 

[jlove]

The Club must have so much data on a player’s recovery that they the judgement must be very scientific.

 

[TheHairdresser]

I’d be surprised if he starts tbh, but only the medical team will know what he needs at this point in the season.

But I’d rather get knocked out of the Cup than Thiago not be available or fully fit for Fulham.

We know from experience that a player doesn't necessarily suffer an injury from match day exertions......even in that scenario the medical team would've done enough on the training pitch and in the gym proceeding that point to ascertain if they are fit to play in a match 72 hrs after a previous one.

 

[Bigbee]

apart from Dango or Kev going central , we dont have a back do we ?

 

[Rob-BEE]

Not seen the actual numbers but it looked like he put in a proper shift on Saturday, chasing balls down, pressing, defensive work etc. He's not a Haaland type who just conserves himself at the business end. For that reason I'd definitely not start him tonight.

 

[GABS]

I'd go with those saying rest him. He's shown glimpses of what he can offer in general play and scoring, but to this middle aged fan's eye view he looks like that awful injury has still left a legacy in that he's not quite 100% yet.

 

[JANORAK]

Not seen the actual numbers but it looked like he put in a proper shift on Saturday, chasing balls down, pressing, defensive work etc. He's not a Haaland type who just conserves himself at the business end. For that reason I'd definitely not start him tonight.

Agreed. My other point would be that a lot of his work at the W/end was running, covering and space filling. Playing Villa, I reckon he’ll have the ball more/be closer to the action, and risk more contact with them and possibly injury.

 

[sleepytiredbee]

No Thiago in tonights squad, hope he’s being rested & isn’t injured?

 

[beesupfulhamdown!]

No Thiago in tonights squad, hope he’s being rested & isn’t injured?

Dont think hes injured like hendo and a few others rested.

 

[cd1994]

Dango can play down the middle give Kevin and igor a rest.

yeh I Agree, think we need to rest Igor as much as possible

 

[beesupfulhamdown!]

yeh I Agree, think we need to rest Igor as much as possible

Seeing as he was injured all last season we need to be careful.

 

[hanworthbee]

Could be something in him holding his hamstring on Saturday...could not be obviously aswell

 

[beesupfulhamdown!]

Could be something in him holding his hamstring on Saturday...could not be obviously aswell

It was cramp

 

[SammmeBee]

Thankfully he’s off….and he’s pony!

 

[-superbees2k3-]

Tough one, at the moment he is just not up to the level we need for a number nine. But he won’t get there without more game time.

 

[taxi driver]

It's not good if we are taking him off if we need a goal

 

[SammmeBee]

It's not good if we leave him on if we need a goal

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

Not for me Clive. Absolutely Zero goal threat. I'd love to know his shots on target record so far! It's not his fault, he shouldn't be the number one striker at the moment.

 

[hanworthbee]

Not for me Clive. Absolutely Zero goal threat. I'd love to know his shots on target record so far! It's not his fault, he shouldn't be the number one striker at the moment.

It's pretty quick

Last season zero goals, zero assists and zero goal attempts , xg 0.1

This season

2 goals, 2 attempts and zero assists , xg 1.2

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[maddogging]

Don’t fault the guy, the football we are playing is f***ing turgid, Haaland would do f*** all in this formation

 

[aawharris]

Its not rocket science, play him central and Schade one side, Dango on the other and watch the goals flow

 

[Guildford Bee]

I’m not sure what he brings other than running around and barging into defenders.

Poor touch, doesn’t read the game well and often off the pace.

 

[w6bee]

He looked better last week but tonight he had no impact at all. Dango had more shots in 5 minutes than he had all game.

Looked quite a way off a £30m player tonight (or PL level either )…

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

He doesn't f***ing shoot. Lol

 

[LostBee]

Not for me Clive. Absolutely Zero goal threat.

Apart from the three goals he’s already scored this season I suppose?

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

Apart from the three goals he’s already scored this season I suppose?

TBF, his shot to goal ratio must be pretty high and you're right to challenge that.

 

[JosephBFC]

He doesn't f***ing shoot. Lol

Hard to shoot when his only service is balls dropping out the sky and our only creative force in Damsgaard is bypassed. He needs to be playing in the middle of a three

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

Hard to shoot when his only service is balls dropping out the sky and our only creative force in Damsgaard is bypassed. He needs to be playing in the middle of a three

Another fair challenge

 

[The Librarian]

Did they have keepers in Belgium?

 

[David Brentford]

I don’t see how he starts over Dango?

 

[ChertseyBee]

He's a Hofmann -style carthorse. We'll be down by Christmas if we persist with him.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Did they have keepers in Belgium?

You seem to go to nearly every Brentford game but hate everything about the club. Are you ok?

 

[BuzzingBee95]

It’s hard not to think playing in a front 3 would greatly benefit him.

Against Sunderland, his goal came from him being in the middle of the box from a cross.

I understand trying to convert Kev into an out and out striker to give us more options, but sort of feels that’s coming at Ivor’s expense.

Schade on left, Igor middle, Outarra on right. Seems fairly obvious

 

[damsgard.szn]

Some of you slating him, the f*** is he supposed to do when we just lob the ball to their keeper every time, or play it to his feet with his back to goal? play him in the middle with wingers and he will score. No strikers score today if your team play like that.

 

[A Real Mysteron]

I don’t see how he starts over Dango?

He should be starting alongside of Dango, in a front 3 with Kev.
With Dams behind them we might actually create something.

 

[JCMcBee]

... he's not all that... he's really not..dress him up how you like.

 

[ChertseyBee]

... he's not all that... he's really not..dress him up how you like.

That's being polite!

 

[Aussie Bee]

Maybe when we paid the 30m for him he was playing within a decent system - at the moment he looks very limited - not giving up on him but It’s a worry

 

[The Librarian]

You seem to go to nearly every Brentford game but hate everything about the club. Are you ok?

Am I wrong ?

 

[Bridge Bee]

Wonder what would happen if he had some service?

Isolated and living off scraps. Not sure what we’re expecting to be honest.

 

[ChertseyBee]

Maybe when we paid the 30m for him he was playing within a decent system - at the moment he looks very limited - not giving up on him but It’s a worry

It's got nothing to do with the system.

He's just not very good ... at anything!!

 

[Jezybee]

Would like to reserve judgement until seeing him in a three with Dango and Schade either side. The two up front doesn’t suit him. Although, both he & Schade have had balls fired in at & around them with little empathy in most games so far.