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Is anyone else a bit worried about our increasing injury list ? We now have Babtiste out for up to a couple of months - Ajer with a hamstring injury - Da Silva out with long term hip injury - Janelt getting an injury in the warm up before the West Ham match - Mads Bech out with medium long term injury. I read that FTT was carrying and injury in the West Ham game. Pinnock just back from an injury.

Now if we hadn’t started so well, replacing these players and giving others an opportunity would be fine. However we have looked so convincing against all opposition to date with the core of this team and have had some wriggle room on the bench, but now I feel it is getting close to the bone. If we get a couple of players coming back and regaining full fitness, I think we are fine; but if those out struggle to recover / get back to full fitness and we get any more injuries it will be a cause for concern.

Could it be the case that the intensity that our players have started the season with is potentially raising the chances of injury.

I know there is nothing we can do about this and in his interview Phil Giles said that injured players just afford an opportunity for others to step up to the mark, but for me we have been so brilliant I can only see replacements in general weakening the team. I hope this situation does not arise and if it does I am proved wrong. It will be great if we can field a very strong side against Chelsea as I think we have every chance of giving them a good game. Fingers crossed we get no more injuries in the next few games and we can continue to see this side flourish under Frank’s excellent management
 

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Mike said:
Is anyone else a bit worried about our increasing injury list ? We now have Babtiste out for up to a couple of months - Ajer with a hamstring injury - Da Silva out with long term hip injury - Janelt getting an injury in the warm up before the West Ham match - Mads Bech out with medium long term injury. I read that FTT was carrying and injury in the West Ham game. Pinnock just back from an injury.

Now if we hadn’t started so well, replacing these players and giving others an opportunity would be fine. However we have looked so convincing against all opposition to date with the core of this team and have had some wriggle room on the bench, but now I feel it is getting close to the bone. If we get a couple of players coming back and regaining full fitness, I think we are fine; but if those out struggle to recover / get back to full fitness and we get any more injuries it will be a cause for concern.

Could it be the case that the intensity that our players have started the season with is potentially raising the chances of injury.

I know there is nothing we can do about this and in his interview Phil Giles said that injured players just afford an opportunity for others to step up to the mark, but for me we have been so brilliant I can only see replacements in general weakening the team. I hope this situation does not arise and if it does I am proved wrong. It will be great if we can field a very strong side against Chelsea as I think we have every chance of giving them a good game. Fingers crossed we get no more injuries in the next few games and we can continue to see this side flourish under Frank’s excellent management
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Dasilva’s was a freak injury, and MBS and Baptiste’s were just extremely unlucky. We already know that Ajer and Janelt’s are only minor too.
 

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Mike said:
Is anyone else a bit worried about our increasing injury list ? We now have Babtiste out for up to a couple of months - Ajer with a hamstring injury - Da Silva out with long term hip injury - Janelt getting an injury in the warm up before the West Ham match - Mads Bech out with medium long term injury. I read that FTT was carrying and injury in the West Ham game. Pinnock just back from an injury.

Now if we hadn’t started so well, replacing these players and giving others an opportunity would be fine. However we have looked so convincing against all opposition to date with the core of this team and have had some wriggle room on the bench, but now I feel it is getting close to the bone. If we get a couple of players coming back and regaining full fitness, I think we are fine; but if those out struggle to recover / get back to full fitness and we get any more injuries it will be a cause for concern.

Could it be the case that the intensity that our players have started the season with is potentially raising the chances of injury.

I know there is nothing we can do about this and in his interview Phil Giles said that injured players just afford an opportunity for others to step up to the mark, but for me we have been so brilliant I can only see replacements in general weakening the team. I hope this situation does not arise and if it does I am proved wrong. It will be great if we can field a very strong side against Chelsea as I think we have every chance of giving them a good game. Fingers crossed we get no more injuries in the next few games and we can continue to see this side flourish under Frank’s excellent management
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I’ll be surprised if Shandon is back in 8 weeks. NHS recovery time says 12 to 16 weeks, then he’s got to get fit. More likely 5 to 6 months. Such a shame for him after his recent fine run of form.
 

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readingbee said:
I’ll be surprised if Shandon is back in 8 weeks. NHS recovery time says 12 to 16 weeks, then he’s got to get fit. More likely 5 to 6 months. Such a shame for him after his recent fine run of form.
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12-16 weeks is for a normal member of the public without the fitness nor access to high quality recuperation tools a professional footballer has.
 

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readingbee said:
I’ll be surprised if Shandon is back in 8 weeks. NHS recovery time says 12 to 16 weeks, then he’s got to get fit. More likely 5 to 6 months. Such a shame for him after his recent fine run of form.
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We've got first class medical staff, private treatment and oxygen tents.
 

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Mike said:
Is anyone else a bit worried about our increasing injury list ? We now have Babtiste out for up to a couple of months - Ajer with a hamstring injury - Da Silva out with long term hip injury - Janelt getting an injury in the warm up before the West Ham match - Mads Bech out with medium long term injury. I read that FTT was carrying and injury in the West Ham game. Pinnock just back from an injury.

Now if we hadn’t started so well, replacing these players and giving others an opportunity would be fine. However we have looked so convincing against all opposition to date with the core of this team and have had some wriggle room on the bench, but now I feel it is getting close to the bone. If we get a couple of players coming back and regaining full fitness, I think we are fine; but if those out struggle to recover / get back to full fitness and we get any more injuries it will be a cause for concern.

Could it be the case that the intensity that our players have started the season with is potentially raising the chances of injury.

I know there is nothing we can do about this and in his interview Phil Giles said that injured players just afford an opportunity for others to step up to the mark, but for me we have been so brilliant I can only see replacements in general weakening the team. I hope this situation does not arise and if it does I am proved wrong. It will be great if we can field a very strong side against Chelsea as I think we have every chance of giving them a good game. Fingers crossed we get no more injuries in the next few games and we can continue to see this side flourish under Frank’s excellent management
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We are soon getting near to the January window, don’t worry the powers that be will make sure thar we will be alright .
 

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hobbsy said:
We've got first class medical staff, private treatment and oxygen tents.
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Yep I’m aware of that. However I think it’ll be little longer than 8 weeks until we see him playing for the first team again. Sincerely hope I’m wrong.
 
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TOXIC BEE said:
Dasilva’s was a freak injury, and MBS and Baptiste’s were just extremely unlucky. We already know that Ajer and Janelt’s are only minor too.
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MBS has already been out 6 weeks does anyone know whether he needed to have an operation or letting nature take its course supported by our fitness team?
 

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Mike said:
Is anyone else a bit worried about our increasing injury list ? We now have Babtiste out for up to a couple of months - Ajer with a hamstring injury - Da Silva out with long term hip injury - Janelt getting an injury in the warm up before the West Ham match - Mads Bech out with medium long term injury. I read that FTT was carrying and injury in the West Ham game. Pinnock just back from an injury.

Now if we hadn’t started so well, replacing these players and giving others an opportunity would be fine. However we have looked so convincing against all opposition to date with the core of this team and have had some wriggle room on the bench, but now I feel it is getting close to the bone. If we get a couple of players coming back and regaining full fitness, I think we are fine; but if those out struggle to recover / get back to full fitness and we get any more injuries it will be a cause for concern.

Could it be the case that the intensity that our players have started the season with is potentially raising the chances of injury.

I know there is nothing we can do about this and in his interview Phil Giles said that injured players just afford an opportunity for others to step up to the mark, but for me we have been so brilliant I can only see replacements in general weakening the team. I hope this situation does not arise and if it does I am proved wrong. It will be great if we can field a very strong side against Chelsea as I think we have every chance of giving them a good game. Fingers crossed we get no more injuries in the next few games and we can continue to see this side flourish under Frank’s excellent management
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TOXIC BEE said:
Dasilva’s was a freak injury, and MBS and Baptiste’s were just extremely unlucky. We already know that Ajer and Janelt’s are only minor too.
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Da Silva’s A freak injury? Where did that come from? He was playing with a problem for ages before he finally succumbed. More like being a big player in a very small squad who was over played after injury during a crucial period. He should have taken a few games rest to get it right.
 

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I'd say that only Sørensen's and Ajer's injuries are related to playing stresses. Dasilva was probably a simple injury exacerbated by an undiscovered biomechanical problem that needed correction; Janelt was probably more a precaution; Baptiste just a bad landing from that tackle. So, not much more than general random injuries. Clearly, we can't afford too many at any one time but Ajer and Janelt sound like short-term, while Baptiste will be a couple of months, Mads and Josh will be later but probably back before the run in.
 

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jlove said:
I'd say that only Sørensen's and Ajer's injuries are related to playing stresses. Dasilva was probably a simple injury exacerbated by an undiscovered biomechanical problem that needed correction; Janelt was probably more a precaution; Baptiste just a bad landing from that tackle. So, not much more than general random injuries. Clearly, we can't afford too many at any one time but Ajer and Janelt sound like short-term, while Baptiste will be a couple of months, Mads and Josh will be later but probably back before the run in.
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I think we over played Dasilva, we played him through the injury. He played at Stoke away when Janelt scored a screamer and was subbed at half time, it was clear he shouldn't be playing but the medical team said he was fit to play
 

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TadB said:
Da Silva’s A freak injury? Where did that come from? He was playing with a problem for ages before he finally succumbed. More like being a big player in a very small squad who was over played after injury during a crucial period. He should have taken a few games rest to get it right.
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A freak injury in terms of a hip problem keeping him out for over a year and still not knowing when exactly he’ll be back. The problem wasn’t the way we play, it was the way we managed the problem.
 

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Without medical knowledge and full possession of the facts , nobody can judge whether Josh's injury was correctly handled. But it did seem a bit odd that he played on for some time with the injury and then was out long term.
 

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JimmyP206 said:
I think we over played Dasilva, we played him through the injury. He played at Stoke away when Janelt scored a screamer and was subbed at half time, it was clear he shouldn't be playing but the medical team said he was fit to play
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Do you know the medical team said he was fit to play?

Out of any departments at the club, they are the most cautious. It may well have been the player declaring he could play or TF wanting him to play. Best not to throw stones as I’m not sure you know the facts.
 

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TOXIC BEE said:
A freak injury in terms of a hip problem keeping him out for over a year and still not knowing when exactly he’ll be back. The problem wasn’t the way we play, it was the way we managed the problem.
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If "Managed the problem" means giving him sufficient rest when the injury first came to note I will agree. We, on the other hand, were running with a very small squad of genuine first team players, and at such an important stage of the season may have had little option, other than to play him. We were promoted so maybe harsh to say, but, perhaps he was an unavoidable casualty. Whatever we move on so let's hope his absence is not prolonged, and that when he does return he has no long term disability.
 

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Injuries happen, it would have been factored in at the start of the season. That is why you need to build a squad of players, you can never bring in enough good players, and of course develop your own as well. On the upside players like Bidstrup, Mads R, Zanka etc etc will get game time. That is a big reason why players come here in the first place, they know they will get opportunities. If an opportunity arises in January to bring someone in that meets our requirements we may well do it, but I am not overly worried at this point.
 

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jlove said:
I'd say that only Sørensen's and Ajer's injuries are related to playing stresses. Dasilva was probably a simple injury exacerbated by an undiscovered biomechanical problem that needed correction; Janelt was probably more a precaution; Baptiste just a bad landing from that tackle. So, not much more than general random injuries. Clearly, we can't afford too many at any one time but Ajer and Janelt sound like short-term, while Baptiste will be a couple of months, Mads and Josh will be later but probably back before the run in.
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Biomecanical?
Is Josh a Terminator or something?!
 

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Given he's been out so long, does anyone know exactly what Josh's injury is ?
I've been wondering if he actually BROKE his hip ?
 

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JimmyP206 said:
I think we over played Dasilva, we played him through the injury. He played at Stoke away when Janelt scored a screamer and was subbed at half time, it was clear he shouldn't be playing but the medical team said he was fit to play
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1., I think we over played Dasilva, - opinion , fine
2. we played him through the injury. - do you have evidence of this
3. , it was clear he shouldn't be playing but the medical team said he was fit to play - I bet you don't have evidence of this one. Watch Chris Haslam's latest interview and come back and call him a f***ing liar.
 

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Banana said:
1., I think we over played Dasilva, - opinion , fine
2. we played him through the injury. - do you have evidence of this
3. , it was clear he shouldn't be playing but the medical team said he was fit to play - I bet you don't have evidence of this one. Watch Chris Haslam's latest interview and come back and call him a f***ing liar.
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2. No specific evidence but to me it was pretty clesr he wasn't alright, he got Subbed at half time and was clearly struggling to play I his normal way
3. I've seen the interview I just think that it wasn't sensible to play him, I could see that he wasn't right to play, whether it was his or the medical teams decision to play I don't know
 

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JimmyP206 said:
2. No specific evidence but to me it was pretty clesr he wasn't alright, he got Subbed at half time and was clearly struggling to play I his normal way
3. I've seen the interview I just think that it wasn't sensible to play him, I could see that he wasn't right to play, whether it was his or the medical teams decision to play I don't know
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Without wishing to appear to sarcastic, have you thought about joining our medical team???

One thing we have learned over the past few years is that we have one of the best medical teams in the football pyramid. With that in mind I cannot see the medical team letting him play is there was any doubt.

I would have thought our fans have enough respect for the football side of the club to know we have long since moved on from the days of giving players injections to enable them to get through the game
 

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exiledbee said:
Given he's been out so long, does anyone know exactly what Josh's injury is ?
I've been wondering if he actually BROKE his hip ?
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Based on previous replies, your skating on thin ice, its all very personal and you shouldn't pry
 

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JimmyP206 said:
2. No specific evidence but to me it was pretty clesr he wasn't alright, he got Subbed at half time and was clearly struggling to play I his normal way
3. I've seen the interview I just think that it wasn't sensible to play him, I could see that he wasn't right to play, whether it was his or the medical teams decision to play I don't know
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He wasn’t subbed at half time, he was subbed on the hour mark whilst on a yellow card.
 

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readingbee said:
I’ll be surprised if Shandon is back in 8 weeks. NHS recovery time says 12 to 16 weeks, then he’s got to get fit. More likely 5 to 6 months. Such a shame for him after his recent fine run of form.
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8 weeks of that is the waiting list.
 

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EarleyBee said:
Based on previous replies, your skating on thin ice, its all very personal and you shouldn't pry
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Given the lack of specific information and the concern of most fans regarding the injury status of one of our best players may I respectfully suggest that you wind your neck in ?
 

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Any updates on our boys for tomorrow? I know Chelsea have a few bruises and don't like the choice of umpire. ?‍♂️
 

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vcmazz said:
Any updates on our boys for tomorrow? I know Chelsea have a few bruises and don't like the choice of umpire. ?‍♂️
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Obviously Baptiste is out but Tf says Ajer and Janelt ok
That’s if you believe what he says about injuries. He often tells porkies to keep them guessing.
 

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Picture of JDS from club twitter, can only be positive for them to feature him, unless it’s just a reminder he’s still very much part of team
 

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Chorlton Bee said:
Picture of JDS from club twitter, can only be positive for them to feature him, unless it’s just a reminder he’s still very much part of team
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He can’t play until Jan regardless though
 

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BFC1997 said:
He can’t play until Jan regardless though
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He’s been out for nearly a year, suspect it’ll be a slow process of non contact training, B team games for awhile before he can even think about being on the bench and competing for a place, just good to see him without the context of his injury
 

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vcmazz said:
Reminds me of the terrible trouble Bryan Robson used to have. His arm used to literally fall off every other game. :(
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True. I remember his arm bringing down Glenn Hoddle for a penalty once. Robbo was standing 15 yards away looking for it...
 

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The way I see it:

Raya banking on Fernandez being as good as we hope
Pinnock not good at all, with Sorenson already out - can Goode step up? It's a big step...
Sorenson we can survive, so long as we don't lose any other CBs.... (but see above)
Janelt again, not good - there is a Vitaliy-shaped hole in our midfield, and it is very noticeable
Baptiste we seem to be surviving without him, but he is a useful player and we need him back sooner rather than later
Dasilva we had enough notice and Onyeka, though a bit inexperienced, is doing a pretty good job
Wissa a bloody nuisance - he was creating real problems when he came on around 70 mins, and we need him back pdq as well
Mbeumo I don't even want to think about it......

Fingers, toes, and all other available appendages seriously crossed.
 

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There you have it we have been cruelly hit .. we need some bodies back quickly or you worry can we sustain our form?
 
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