Jake Bidwell

Jake Bidwell

Chorlton Bee said:
Just have, I'll let you know. Everton were 3 up early on so he's probably been subbed.
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No, knowing our luck, he's probably still on the pitch, playing a blinder and has scored a double hat-trick by now!
 

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Chorlton Bee said:
Unless you've inside info, the only disrupting that's going on is to the message board/supporters guesses. I doubt the management team are sitting anxiously waiting for texts/calls etc.
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I certainly don't have "inside info". All I'm suggesting is that if nothing happens before the Germany trip, the pre-season warm-up programme will be all-but-finished before we have anyone to play at left-back and I would think that's far from ideal. The only real option for left-back (assuming that Craig needs to be bedded in at central defence as that's where he says he been bought to play), is Pim and it's pretty obvious that he's not in Rosler's plans. In fact, I do wonder whether he would even travel to Germany if there was anyone else?

I would love Bidwell to return - but soon!
 

Jake Bidwell

Bidwell isnt the only young attacking left back in the country,relax . Everton have another who was on loan last season at Cheltenham ,hes supposed to be better than " biddy ". After that Uwe can trawl through his hit list Bidwell isnt his last option

Biddy sounds gay btw
 

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HertfordBee said:
I certainly don't have "inside info". All I'm suggesting is that if nothing happens before the Germany trip, the pre-season warm-up programme will be all-but-finished before we have anyone to play at left-back and I would think that's far from ideal. The only real option for left-back (assuming that Craig needs to be bedded in at central defence as that's where he says he been bought to play), is Pim and it's pretty obvious that he's not in Rosler's plans. In fact, I do wonder whether he would even travel to Germany if there was anyone else?

I would love Bidwell to return - but soon!
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As long as a player gets pre season training done with any club they should be fit enough and even signing on day of match won't be bad. Michael Turner did that with great effect. Loanees nearly always sign late in the day.
 

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If he stays at Everton then thanks for last season, I have confidence in our Managerial team that in the event that he does not come our way they have other players on their radar

Would be nice to have the position resolved sooner rather than later however History shows that transfers and loans continue up to the start of the season
 

Jake Bidwell

HertfordBee said:
I certainly don't have "inside info". All I'm suggesting is that if nothing happens before the Germany trip, the pre-season warm-up programme will be all-but-finished before we have anyone to play at left-back and I would think that's far from ideal. The only real option for left-back (assuming that Craig needs to be bedded in at central defence as that's where he says he been bought to play), is Pim and it's pretty obvious that he's not in Rosler's plans. In fact, I do wonder whether he would even travel to Germany if there was anyone else?

I would love Bidwell to return - but soon!
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Stop panicking, it is still early days in the pre-season. Only been back a week for goodness sake.
 

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HertfordBee said:
I certainly don't have "inside info". All I'm suggesting is that if nothing happens before the Germany trip, the pre-season warm-up programme will be all-but-finished before we have anyone to play at left-back and I would think that's far from ideal. The only real option for left-back (assuming that Craig needs to be bedded in at central defence as that's where he says he been bought to play), is Pim and it's pretty obvious that he's not in Rosler's plans. In fact, I do wonder whether he would even travel to Germany if there was anyone else?

I would love Bidwell to return - but soon!
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Think we need to chill. The Craig aquisition came out of nowhere and it seems that the club are pretty good at keeping the lid on things, for the most part, to avoid letting other interested parties in on the act and getting scuppered as would seem to have happened with Robertson.
I am sure that the LB situation is being addressed and that come the opening day A.N Other will be on the teamsheet.
 

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BURFORD BEE said:
Think we need to chill. The Craig aquisition came out of nowhere and it seems that the club are pretty good at keeping the lid on things, for the most part, to avoid letting other interested parties in on the act and getting scuppered as would seem to have happened with Robertson.
I am sure that the LB situation is being addressed and that come the opening day A.N Other will be on the teamsheet.
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Agree with that, The management are obviously working away behind the scenes like they did with Craig, and I am fully confident as well that come the kick off they will have the right men in position, It would be nice if Bidwell returns, but not holding my breath, as I think he might be loaned out to greater heights than us, and this is nothing less then he deserves for his outstanding performances last season that would not have gone unoticed by other clubs, lets just be thankful we got him first and I hope we watched a future star in the making.
 

Jake Bidwell

Maybe with the cancellation of Pim and Woodman's contracts, we are freeing up the wage bill to actually sign him instead of loan him...
 

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jharvey85 said:
Maybe with the cancellation of Pim and Woodman's contracts, we are freeing up the wage bill to actually sign him instead of loan him...
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A nice thought but would Everton really sell him AND Forshaw? Fingers crossed!
 

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In my opinion, the only way we can get Bidwell is if we buy him. Why would Everton want to loan to a level that he's already succeeded at? He'll either be on their subs bench or they'll get rid. I think he'll be loaned to a championship team unless we can purchase him.
 

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jharvey85 said:
In my opinion, the only way we can get Bidwell is if we buy him. Why would Everton want to loan to a level that he's already succeeded at? He'll either be on their subs bench or they'll get rid. I think he'll be loaned to a championship team unless we can purchase him.
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Why?

He's only 19, they currently have an international left back so he's unlikely to be contesting a first team start with only 20 odd league games at a lower standard under his belt. However, a first team start in a side where he's playing the right style of football, enjoying it and benefiting both clubs is better than playing in front of a few hundred at best in the stiffs. Selling him means they have to find someone else and why loan him to another club when he obviously gained so much from his previous spell here.

For what it's worth I may be well off the mark but given Alan Stubbs praise of Bidwell and our part in developing him last season coupled with the fact that Forshaw chose to join us suggest Everton might be happy to have us continue to nurture him for them.
 

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Bigbee said:
:imwith:

Surely Everton know what they want to do by now ???
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It may depend on Baines - lots of press speculation about him joining United and until that's played out they might not want to agree to a season long loan until they have adequate cover. They can't recall him so why rush to get him out just because we want him now?
 

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sonofabee said:
It may depend on Baines - lots of press speculation about him joining United and until that's played out they might not want to agree to a season long loan until they have adequate cover. They can't recall him so why rush to get him out just because we want him now?
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Well its hit the press today that Man Utd are trying out Robbie Brady as a full back in pre season. Could mean something regarding Baines.
 

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Wheels within wheels . Us signing Bidwell is now somehow dependent on some lad getting a chance at Man U?! This is like exchanging on a house!

See I heard Rob Brady is getting a chance at Man U because Blackburn are interested in him so Ferguson is getting him in the old shop front window. But Blackurn buying him depends if they can offload want away ex QPR defender Bradley Orr. Orr has been sniffed about by Millwall who could pick up interest as they are looking for more defensive cover..... but wait! They just signed Osbouuurne!

And so the house of cards falls down.
 

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Wouldbee said:
Wheels within wheels . Us signing Bidwell is now somehow dependent on some lad getting a chance at Man U?! This is like exchanging on a house!

See I heard Rob Brady is getting a chance at Man U because Blackburn are interested in him so Ferguson is getting him in the old shop front window. But Blackurn buying him depends if they can offload want away ex QPR defender Bradley Orr. Orr has been sniffed about by Millwall who could pick up interest as they are looking for more defensive cover..... but wait! They just signed Osbouuurne!

And so the house of cards falls down.
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Who knows, it's all paper talk I was only making the point that just because we want Bidwell now, there is no rush for Everton to allow a 3rd or 4th choice full back to leave until just before kick off.
They know they've got someone willing to take him on a long loan, we're probably not paying any significant contribution to his wages so why should they look to agree to anything this early when they're unsure who they'll have to choose from.
 

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S'alright sonofaBee I merely used your post for the making of a quick jokie. Who knows whats going on? Well Uwe obviously!
 

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Never in the history of mankind has one clubs destiny been due to be decided by the signing of a left back . This is the last left back in civilisation , all the others are no more or have been signed by Preston
 

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And whilst everyone is panicking, lets remember bidwell joined us last year without completing preseason with us and that didn't seem to do him any harm, why would joining us now when he already knows the players and the club be such a catastrophe.

Anyway, plenty of time and plenty of players out there.
 

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ladbroke said:
Although Bidwell is of different class, we all thought the same about Dickson, did we not?
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Quite, he's good but he's not superman!
Currently he is out of contract and it seems Everton are dithering which is not that positive from his point of view.Mind you others will be interested in him.
 

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Stanley said:
Currently he is out of contract and it seems Everton are dithering which is not that positive from his point of view.Mind you others will be interested in him.
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Is he!? I thought he had one!

So he is technically just on trial at Everton atm?
 

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Checking the recent census results it does indeed state there are now only around 27 native left backs left in this country down from 157 in 2002.
 

Jake Bidwell

Wouldbee said:
Checking the recent census results it does indeed state there are now only around 27 native left backs left in this country down from 157 in 2002.
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it is actually far easier these days to sign on than pull on a pair of footie boots :(
 

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I suggest you buy bigger boots?
 

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Thstill doethn't help?
 

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larrysigny said:
If he's out of contract - wouldn't he be a free agent? Where's the bidding war?
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no as he is under 24.
If someone came in for him, then in theory that would mean that Everton would have to offer something to be able to get compensation and as a Premier League team and him being an England U19 international could probably command a small 7 figure sum. If we tested Evertons resolve with offering Jake a contract, then that may well piss Everton off and they won't trust us again. The other option for Everton is to naturally release him and they get nothing. The only thing that is worrying really for Jake is surely, now, he doesn't get paid unless he is now on a month by month contract with Everton who still holds his registration.
 

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larrysigny said:
If he's out of contract - wouldn't he be a free agent? Where's the bidding war?
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To offer the best contract to attract him? :shrug: Maybe no other clubs are interested though.
 

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Big Seb said:
Why don't we sign the Brighton Lad, best left back I've seen in a while???????????????
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Attacking-wise he was terrific, but it's impossible to tell from that game whether the defensive side of his game is up to League One level. Certainly hope so though!
 

Jake Bidwell

How far is Charlie Adams away from the first team? Will we see him pre-season. meant to be a good un and a left back
 

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ladbroke said:
no as he is under 24.
If someone came in for him, then in theory that would mean that Everton would have to offer something to be able to get compensation and as a Premier League team and him being an England U19 international could probably command a small 7 figure sum. If we tested Evertons resolve with offering Jake a contract, then that may well piss Everton off and they won't trust us again. The other option for Everton is to naturally release him and they get nothing. The only thing that is worrying really for Jake is surely, now, he doesn't get paid unless he is now on a month by month contract with Everton who still holds his registration.
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Thanks
 
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