Jake Bidwell

Jake Bidwell

It was Everton reserves so not unexpected.
 

Jake Bidwell

We have been down this road before with Schluup where it was like Billy Bunter's cheque - it is in the post and coming tomorrow - but tomorrow never comes.

I believe that it is Mark Warburton who is responsible for player recruitment and we cannot afford another similar situation with Bidwell.

He is worth waiting for but only up to a point and IMO that point has now arrived. Unless we have a guaranteed arrival date for him then I think we should now move on and bring in the next target on our list.

We need a full week's training with the preferred first choice back four in situ prior to next Saturday's opening competitive match and much as we all want Bidwell we need to get the situation sorted one way or the other.

Let's face it, none of us had ever hear.d of Jake when he arrived and I would really hope we have identified an alternative who is more Bidwellthan Blair Adams.
 

Jake Bidwell

Everton sub v Blackpool today. Came on for last 7 mins. Everton lose 2-0 by the seaside.
 

Jake Bidwell

After the game Bidwell reportedly said he might or might not be at Brentford this season.
 

Jake Bidwell

John Bateup‏@SouthCoastBees
When you coming back to the Bees?, you know it makes sense...games.@jake_bidwell

Jake Bidwell‏@jake_bidwell
@SouthCoastBees got to see what the gaffers got planned mate. But I loved my time at the club #bees
 

Jake Bidwell

Seeing as Uwe didn't offer Andy Taylor a deal, he must be sure that a deal could be made.
 

Jake Bidwell

Alex Callow said:
Seeing as Uwe didn't offer Andy Taylor a deal, he must be sure that a deal could be made.
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Think Taylor was just brought te Germany because we had no other left backs to take with us in the hope the he might play his way into consideration... We came back, he wasn't good enough, and as we were..
 

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Spoke to Uwe a Griffin Park today, we're just waiting to see what Everton want to do with him, they we're pleased with the way he developed here last season. He did say that the only problem with waiting is that if Jake dosen't come it leaves us we a short space of time to find a replacement (but in my veiw he seemed quite confident we'd get him). There should be two signings new week and the possibilty of one more slighty later.
 

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westy said:
Spoke to Uwe a Griffin Park today, we're just waiting to see what Everton want to do with him, they we're pleased with the way he developed here last season. He did say that the only problem with waiting is that if Jake dosen't come it leaves us we a short space of time to find a replacement (but in my veiw he seemed quite confident we'd get him). There should be two signings new week and the possibilty of one more slighty later.
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Hmmm I hope hope hope this comes off, but its a risky stratergy!
 

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brighton bee said:
Hmmm I hope hope hope this comes off, but its a risky stratergy!
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I'd agree it's risky but Uwe must know more than is being let on, given we've released Pim, Woodman and not offered Taylor a contract. If there was any major doubt about the Bidwell deal I would have thought he'd got someone in by now.

Personally I expect to see Bidwell sign this week.
 

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he's not coming... close thread xx
 

Jake Bidwell

Please can we close this thread now, lets move on, it's run it's course, time stands still for no man, so no point in him coming now as we have filled the vacancy with Scott Barron, who is now OUR player.
 

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I wouldn't rule it out of he became available. We could then move Weston on and have Bidwell and Barron for the left side
 

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Everton have dithered and we have acted, and rightly so. Bidwell is now in the ex bees category.

I think Baines will still go, just cost Manu more.
 

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I'd be shocked and disappointed if we have stopped tracking bidwells availability, if barron gets injured at the weekend its back to square one with only redwood as cover, if affordable we need a second senior left back option (i've discounted TC as we're arent overloaded with centrebacks at the moment).
 

Jake Bidwell

Sayonara, good luck to him but his future won't be with us.

Great shame as he could really have a fantastic career and I hoped that we might have had him for at least another year.
 

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Houghton Bee said:
I'd be shocked and disappointed if we have stopped tracking bidwells availability, if barron gets injured at the weekend its back to square one with only redwood as cover, if affordable we need a second senior left back option (i've discounted TC as we're arent overloaded with centrebacks at the moment).
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With all the other issues with signing Bidwell ie he lives in Liverpool l would think that it would be extravagant to sign him as well as having Barron who wouldn't have been cheap.
 

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Houghton Bee said:
I'd be shocked and disappointed if we have stopped tracking bidwells availability, if barron gets injured at the weekend its back to square one with only redwood as cover, if affordable we need a second senior left back option (i've discounted TC as we're arent overloaded with centrebacks at the moment).
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Whilst I see the sense in monitoring Bidwells avaliability I would see Redwood as perfectly adequate cover for the left back position though I accept we would need someone else if Barron did sustain a long term injury.
 

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Balders Bee said:
Whilst I see the sense in monitoring Bidwells avaliability I would see Redwood as perfectly adequate cover for the left back position though I accept we would need someone else if Barron did sustain a long term injury.
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We need two first team left backs , we only have one .Redwood is a dev player
 

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Brentford_till_die said:
Redwood is a development squad player not a first teamer
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I'm aware of that but I'm unaware of any rule saying that a Development Squad player can't play in the first team. From what I've seen of Redwood pre-season he's a talented player who could well push for a place this season.
 

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Brentford_till_die said:
Redwood is a development squad player not a first teamer
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It's a good use of the playing budgets. Redwood isn't in the first teams budget which allows more funds for Uwe to use on other players. All Dev Squad players can play first team football. The Dev Squad budget is seperate.
 

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wanderer paul said:
It's a good use of the playing budgets. Redwood isn't in the first teams budget which allows more funds for Uwe to use on other players. All Dev Squad players can play first team football. The Dev Squad budget is seperate.
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I was going to mention that as well
 

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Bill Benn said:
Why give him a squad number then?the fact that he is development squad player doesn't mean he's excluded from the first team.
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No one said it does, but Bigbee's point still stands, there is a good chance we will need 2 'first team' left backs this season. We had 2 last year! And if Redwood was going to be one of them, he would have played last week, instead of putting a right back in his position! I liked what I saw of Redwood, but for whatever reason, Uwe can't think he is ready. If Everton call today and say we can have JB, we would be insane to say no thanks!!
 

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Rainbrander Bee said:
No one said it does, but Bigbee's point still stands, there is a good chance we will need 2 'first team' left backs this season. We had 2 last year! And if Redwood was going to be one of them, he would have played last week, instead of putting a right back in his position! I liked what I saw of Redwood, but for whatever reason, Uwe can't think he is ready. If Everton call today and say we can have JB, we would be insane to say no thanks!!
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Bidwell won't be joining IMHO the point about Redwood not being selected at Walsall was a poor decision by Uwe in my view.
 

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Bill Benn said:
With all the other issues with signing Bidwell ie he lives in Liverpool l would think that it would be extravagant to sign him as well as having Barron who wouldn't have been cheap.
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A fair point, maybe if everton covered all costs if they see it really aiding his development it might be better, dont know whether that sort of thing happens to be honest :cool:
 

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Bill Benn said:
Bidwell won't be joining IMHO the point about Redwood not being selected at Walsall was a poor decision by Uwe in my view.
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Yes I would agree with you on that one. I want to reserve judgement on Redwood until I see him in a number of first team league games not friendlies against lower opposition. He has potential but until we see him on a regular basis week in week out its impossible to know for sure if he will be good enough, just like any other development player that shows promise. Would have preferred him to have played on Saturday rather than play someone else out of position. Depending on how he performs may influence any further decision to bring Bidwell back this season if that option becomes available. However Redwood would have to be very good for us not to bring Bidwell or another experienced LB in later this season.
 

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Kingston Bee said:
Yes I would agree with you on that one. I want to reserve judgement on Redwood until I see him in a number of first team league games not friendlies against lower opposition. He has potential but until we see him on a regular basis week in week out its impossible to know for sure if he will be good enough, just like any other development player that shows promise. Would have preferred him to have played on Saturday rather than play someone else out of position. Depending on how he performs may influence any further decision to bring Bidwell back this season if that option becomes available. However Redwood would have to be very good for us not to bring Bidwell or another experienced LB in later this season.
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Sensible words though I would point out how are we going to see him on a regular week in week out basis and know if he or indeed any of the development squad are good enough to cut it in Division One. Performances in the Development Squad and application in training are of course part of the equation but the only way of telling if a player is good enough is giving them game time, I agree with you that Saturday was a missed opportunity.
 

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..............so...............when does he sign for us?????????..........
 

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I thought one of the points of the Development squad was that they replaced the reserves as such and could step up if needed, thus meaning we did not need such a large first team squad which we could fill iwith better quality.

Signing Barron with Redwood as backup sounds perfectly sensible to me.
 

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Bill Benn said:
Redwood not being selected at Walsall was a poor decision by Uwe in my view.
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I disagree. We already had a young player on the pitch in Jake Reeves who struggled, so having another inexperienced player on the pitch could have caused more problems. We threw in Oyeleke against MK Dons before he was ready, and we all know what ended up happening there. Redwood will get a chance, but he's struggled with getting used to first-team training in pre-season (Uwe's words), and Logan put in a very good left-back performance against Wycombe. Also, I don't think starting with Logan at left-back really affected the outcome of the game - it was in midfield that we lost the game.
 

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alexcavell said:
I disagree. We already had a young player on the pitch in Jake Reeves who struggled, so having another inexperienced player on the pitch could have caused more problems. We threw in Oyeleke against MK Dons before he was ready, and we all know what ended up happening there. Redwood will get a chance, but he's struggled with getting used to first-team training in pre-season (Uwe's words), and Logan put in a very good left-back performance against Wycombe. Also, I don't think starting with Logan at left-back really affected the outcome of the game - it was in midfield that we lost the game.
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A reasoned argument in terms of the Walsall game but in the wider context when does a 'inexperienced' player gain 'experience' then. Reeves struggled for 30 odd minutes -as did the far more 'experienced' Douglas for 75 mins- after looking good pre-season so does that mean he spends another six-eight months in the Development Squad or on loan to a BSP club and then the 'experience' argument is still trotted out because it wasn't at this level. If they are good enough they are old enough.
 

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alexcavell said:
I disagree. We already had a young player on the pitch in Jake Reeves who struggled, so having another inexperienced player on the pitch could have caused more problems. We threw in Oyeleke against MK Dons before he was ready, and we all know what ended up happening there. Redwood will get a chance, but he's struggled with getting used to first-team training in pre-season (Uwe's words), and Logan put in a very good left-back performance against Wycombe. Also, I don't think starting with Logan at left-back really affected the outcome of the game - it was in midfield that we lost the game.
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Have to agree to disagree we threw on another in experienced 19 year old in Fredericks instead,All the players played well against Wycombe and l can never agree with putting a right footed player in what is a specialist and important position of Left Back.I understand we lost the game at Walsall for many reasons midfield being one.
 
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