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Jake Reeves

Apparently his loan's temporarily fallen through anyway because of a chest infection. But I am a bit dissapointed as well, as he's a good player. But Rosler clearly used him as cover for Diagouraga who's seemingly now cemented his spot in the team. He wouldn't be a replacement for O'Connor though, as the OC was just there to fill in for Douglas.
 

Jake Reeves

A good move if it goes through. Has potential but not yet ready for lge 1 on a consistent basis. Really needs game time if not playing. Common sense all round.
 

Jake Reeves

Invipai said:
Apparently his loan's temporarily fallen through anyway because of a chest infection. But I am a bit dissapointed as well, as he's a good player. But Rosler clearly used him as cover for Diagouraga who's seemingly now cemented his spot in the team. He wouldn't be a replacement for O'Connor though, as the OC was just there to fill in for Douglas.
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Yea id heard. I know that Uwe rates him but it concerns me that Manny seems to be ahead of him now. Yes true he wouldnt replace Kev in the team but i just meant in terms of numbers he may have been higher up the pecking order to get a game.
 

Jake Reeves

Orp_Bee said:
Yea id heard. I know that Uwe rates him but it concerns me that Manny seems to be ahead of him now. Yes true he wouldnt replace Kev in the team but i just meant in terms of numbers he may have been higher up the pecking order to get a game.
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Why is Manny ahead of him, please clarify....
 

Jake Reeves

I don't believe Oyeleke is ahead of Reeves, it's just rewarding Oyeleke for his good performances in Youth and Development matches, Reeves now needs game time and a month away at a non league club should be good for him. Let's hope he progresses and not regresses.
 

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wanderer paul said:
I don't believe Oyeleke is ahead of Reeves, it's just rewarding Oyeleke for his good performances in Youth and Development matches, Reeves now needs game time and a month away at a non league club should be good for him. Let's hope he progresses and not regresses.
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Cannot see why he should regress, would have thought its all a learning process for him at the mom.
 

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Kingston Bee said:
Why is Manny ahead of him, please clarify....
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I just meant that Manny was on the bench for the fa cup. Admittedly they play different positions but i fully expected Reeves to be involved so to me it felt that was a sign of his progress in Uwe's thoughts.
 

Jake Reeves

Imo, both Jake & Manny will make the grade. I believe we actually played a lot of our best football when JR was in the team - he teamed up particularly well with Douglas - and is a good playmaker ith good vision.

However he is very young & perhaps not ready for a prolonged run at D1 level. Jay Tabb could have been ruined by being overplayed and thankfully wasn't. I believe that JR could be as much a Bees legend as Jay if he is handled correctly.

Manny is also inexperienced but having seen him a few times he is talented, tireless and another one for the future. More of a Dave-type player but will be challenging for a 1st team spot idc.

Orp_Bee said:
I just meant that Manny was on the bench for the fa cup. Admittedly they play different positions but i fully expected Reeves to be involved so to me it felt that was a sign of his progress in Uwe's thoughts.
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KGB said:
Imo, both Jake & Manny will make the grade. I believe we actually played a lot of our best football when JR was in the team - he teamed up particularly well with Douglas - and is a good playmaker ith good vision.

However he is very young & perhaps not ready for a prolonged run at D1 level. Jay Tabb could have been ruined by being overplayed and thankfully wasn't. I believe that JR could be as much a Bees legend as Jay if he is handled correctly.

Manny is also inexperienced but having seen him a few times he is talented, tireless and another one for the future. More of a Dave-type player but will be challenging for a 1st team spot idc.
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In terms of them making the grade I was very encouraged by Uwe saying they both have good, hard-working attitudes which is something so many young players lack.

I agree with the Jake and Jay Tabb comparison. Both small, dynamic players with a lot of ability. Assuming the move does still go ahead I hope to see him back in the first team soon.
 

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blunstone said:
at least he is our player ...... far too many loanees these days
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You should be old and wise enough to know (as I'm sure you do) that the loan system allows us to bring in players of a higher quality than we could afford to buy who could potentially be the difference between a successful season and another near miss. Would we have been promoted without Jordan's goals ?
 

Jake Reeves

Needs to get back playing in our side at home, could be that spark that we're missing at the moment.
 

Jake Reeves

shefunibee said:
Needs to get back playing in our side at home, could be that spark that we're missing at the moment.
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Definately think we need some more creativity/attack in CM cause for me Douglas and Diagouraga are both fairly defence minded. Saw Jake warming up during the half time interval and hit a few passes across the field that I'd love to see in an actual game.
 

Jake Reeves

Agreed. Watched him really closely at half time & he really does look the part even tho' it was only a kickabout.

Interesting that we played our best football imo when he and Douglas were together. However I think that he needs to be used sparingly at this stage in his career, although a little more often that we are seeing.

Orp_Bee said:
Definately think we need some more creativity/attack in CM cause for me Douglas and Diagouraga are both fairly defence minded. Saw Jake warming up during the half time interval and hit a few passes across the field that I'd love to see in an actual game.
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KGB said:
Agreed. Watched him really closely at half time & he really does look the part even tho' it was only a kickabout.

Interesting that we played our best football imo when he and Douglas were together. However I think that he needs to be used sparingly at this stage in his career, although a little more often that we are seeing.
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For what reason do you think he should be used sparingly? The physical side of the game?
 

Jake Reeves

Orp_Bee said:
For what reason do you think he should be used sparingly? The physical side of the game?
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Age is not a problem, if he's good enough, he's old enough. There are quite a few teenagers playing in the premier league.
I really liked the look of him at the start of the season and IMO he should at least be an option on the bench.
 

Jake Reeves

KGB said:
Watched him really closely at half time & he really does look the part even tho' it was only a kickabout.
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Agreed, but even then I was thinking it would have been fairly pointless to bring him on the way the game was completely bypassing the central midfield.
 

Jake Reeves

Thought he looked decent against weaker teams like Orient and Yeovil but was a little boy lost against the likes of Sheffield United and Preston. Although I suppose you say that about a few others....
 

Jake Reeves

zuko said:
Agreed, but even then I was thinking it would have been fairly pointless to bring him on the way the game was completely bypassing the central midfield.
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Very fair point. I can really see him being something of a secret weapon for us though. I'm getting concerned that Dave and Douglas arent too well suited to playing together. Numerous times on Sat it was Douglas that was making the forward runs which isnt really his strength. I'd far rather have him sitting and Reeves getting forward and getting shots and diagonal passes away.
 

Jake Reeves

Absolutely, great player in the making. If we played more often the way we did at Charlton - short incisive passing, lots of movement - he would absolutely thrive.
 

Jake Reeves

Guildford Bee said:
Thought he looked decent against weaker teams like Orient and Yeovil but was a little boy lost against the likes of Sheffield United and Preston. Although I suppose you say that about a few others....
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Was outstanding vs Stoke !
 

Jake Reeves

dare i suggest that our performance that day was a fairly clear example of ahigher league team being outfought by an inferior lower league team exactly as happened to us on Sat?
 

Jake Reeves

Yes. A few runs of games at a time. The lad is 18yo in a tough physical league & needs time - he is the real deal imo.

Actually I would like to have seen him on Saturday instead of Manny (who I think is another real talent) as I think he & Douglas work well together & we needed to win that game if only for the £27k prize money we've lost. Wrexham were not big in midfield but were very mobile & I think he would have brought a degree of control & vision which was sadly lacking & would have brought Douglas into the game . However, that's water under the bridge...

I would add that Manny did pretty well all things considered.

Orp_Bee said:
For what reason do you think he should be used sparingly? The physical side of the game?
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KGB said:
Yes. A few runs of games at a time. The lad is 18yo in a tough physical league & needs time - he is the real deal imo.

Actually I would like to have seen him on Saturday instead of Manny (who I think is another real talent) as I think he & Douglas work well together & we needed to win that game if only for the £27k prize money we've lost. Wrexham were not big in midfield but were very mobile & I think he would have brought a degree of control & vision which was sadly lacking & would have brought Douglas into the game . However, that's water under the bridge...

I would add that Manny did pretty well all things considered.
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Fair enough. I tend to think the sooner he gets stuck in and has a few bad experiences the sooner he can toughen up but despite being small i think he'll be fine although i see your point.

Hoping he gets a chance tonight alongside Douglas.

I agree, thought he looked a good prospect and IMO he was one of the bright spots to come out of Sat.
 

Jake Reeves

Got to start some games soon, he brings creativity to the team which we lack.
 

Jake Reeves

hanworthbee said:
should start SAT instead of Douglas
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You can't play with Reeves and Dave IMO, you can't impose yourself on the game without the ball and neither of those are ball winners. TBH, if KOC was fit, I'd drop Dave and Douglas, but given the choice of dropping one to accommodate Reeves, it has to be Dave that misses out.
 

Jake Reeves

Owlsmoor_Bee said:
You can't play with Reeves and Dave IMO, you can't impose yourself on the game without the ball and neither of those are ball winners. TBH, if KOC was fit, I'd drop Dave and Douglas, but given the choice of dropping one to accommodate Reeves, it has to be Dave that misses out.
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On tonights performance I absolutely agree with that.
 

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Owlsmoor_Bee said:
You can't play with Reeves and Dave IMO, you can't impose yourself on the game without the ball and neither of those are ball winners. TBH, if KOC was fit, I'd drop Dave and Douglas, but given the choice of dropping one to accommodate Reeves, it has to be Dave that misses out.
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Said on the way home if fit would like to see Kevin and Reeves have a go.
 

Jake Reeves

Disappointed Jake isn't getting a chance at the moment, we have enough centre midfielders who can work hard and tackle but few that can pick a pass. Yesterday the ball seemed to get put up in the air a lot with the midfield rarely hanging onto it, Reeves has the ability to put his foot on the ball and pick a pass through the middle which is something we really lack. With the limited offering from our wide men at present I think JR has a lot to offer, albeit in the, 'right' games.
 

Jake Reeves

I'm sure I read he's injured at the moment, but I agree that he should be involved more often. Diagouraga is off-form, and although Reeves isn't ready to come up against strong, experienced midfields yet (as we saw vs Preston and Sheff Utd), he was excellent against Yeovil, Colchester and Orient, and we're missing him in the team at the moment.
 

Jake Reeves

Yes he is injured and yes he was probably unfairly bombed out
 

Jake Reeves

longdistancebee said:
Available for loan, but clearly still part of the plan because UR says he needs to get him fit for February and March.
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He needs games so it will be good for him to go out on loan for a while and learn a bit more about the game.
 

Jake Reeves

If he isnt currently playing for the first team then it makes sense for him to go and get a run of game under his belt elsewhere.
 

Jake Reeves

longdistancebee said:
Available for loan, but clearly still part of the plan because UR says he needs to get him fit for February and March.
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A month loan somewhere then...? I personally would keep him at the club and play him more, but if he isn't going to get a game or two then a loan can't hurt.
 

Jake Reeves

Yes, 3 or 4 competitive first team games at a good non-league club will do no harm. Although i loved his skills in the earlier part of the season, he clearly does need toughening up. Getting a few kicks up the arse from some hulking Rymans League centre back will be good schooling. We dont want to end up with another Bostock.
 

Jake Reeves

Orp_Bee said:
It sounds like Uwe wants him to get some games in Jan and then come back. Probably be a good move for the lad.
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Agreed . To keep developing he needs to play. And he does have potential in my book.
 

Jake Reeves

GNBee said:
Agreed . To keep developing he needs to play. And he does have potential in my book.
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Yeah definately. Huge potential and offers something that few people possess in our league.
 

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Jake Reeves

SQUELCH said:
Yeah true – Douglas and Dave both need to be on their game though as 1st start for a while.
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Agreed. Plus seeing as the only thing thats stopped him featuring is his strength etc. Preston arent an ideal first game back but I think he'll give a good account of himself if given the chance.
 

Jake Reeves

Will be a great player for us in the future, but I would worry slightly that PNE away may be slightly throwing him at the deep-end after a long spell out.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a 4-4-2 with just Toumani and Douglas in the middle, or a diamond of Toumani, Douglas, Forrester, Saunders.

Would love to pleased wrong and Reeves to have a stormer though. :)
 

Jake Reeves

zuko said:
Will be a great player for us in the future, but I would worry slightly that PNE away may be slightly throwing him at the deep-end after a long spell out.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a 4-4-2 with just Toumani and Douglas in the middle, or a diamond of Toumani, Douglas, Forrester, Saunders.

Would love to pleased wrong and Reeves to have a stormer though. :)
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Yeah fair point mate, cant disagree with that at all. Just got a feeling that he'll do well if he plays. Hes got plenty of steel about him.
 

Jake Reeves

zuko said:
Will be a great player for us in the future, but I would worry slightly that PNE away may be slightly throwing him at the deep-end after a long spell out.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a 4-4-2 with just Toumani and Douglas in the middle, or a diamond of Toumani, Douglas, Forrester, Saunders.

Would love to pleased wrong and Reeves to have a stormer though. :)
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if our season is over then theres no pressure on him at all.He has already shown what a talent he is and has also shown that hes not quite 100% ready,mno matter what happens tonight it will be a great experience against a team not having a good season in a nice stadium,it will be a great stepping stone for him
 
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