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John Mac's Statement

I've split out John Mac's statement and subsequent replies from the original thread to make it easier to find. The original thread is here: https://griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14713 - Banana

As a BFC board member and the "Bees United representative", I will try and answer some of the questions being raised on the GPG as I am extremely concerned that some fans may not fully understand the current situation. I will be as honest as I can, but you will have to understand that I am unable to divulge information which may be considered confidential at the present time. I would also like to point out that occasionally the club will issue statements on behalf of the board which may not have been discussed in a board meeting. This is perfectly in order as long as they do not breach company policy.

First of all I would like to make it absolutely clear that there is not one member of the board who wants the club to play at Kingston next season. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that I think it unlikely we will be moving to Kingston, but the situation is difficult and dependent on a number of factors. To stay at Griffin Park the board must be confident the club will have sufficient cash available to pay all the bills for the next 18 months or so. Bees United will be able to chip in with a loan of about £200K, but we'd like to be able to offer significantly more. The standing orders we receive from fans really are going to make a difference, but we have less than 500 people donating in this way. That's not meant to be a criticism, but if we could double the numbers contributing I would be confident enough to say we will definitely be playing at GP for quite a while.

The simple fact is that if the club is unable to raise the necessary cash it needs to run the business it may be forced into administration. Altonwood would like to hand over control to Bees United as soon as possible but unfortunately we'd be no better off. The Supporters' Trust is not in a position to raise huge sums of money, for exactly the same reason the current board can't. Bees United could only raise cash on Brentford FC's primary asset - Griffin Park! Borrowings always have to be secured against an asset, and the market value of ours is no more than £7M at present, so there is little prospect of raising any additional money against it whilst it retains a value at that level. I'm not going to explain the alternatives because everybody knows them as they're the sole cause of the current disagreements between BIAS and Ron Noades, but quite frankly if Bees United owned the club they would have to follow a similar path to the current board. Not a popular decision by any means, but if all other avenues have been explored, and it secures the club's immediate future then there would seem to be little choice.

The objective would be to keep the club in business until a new stadium is ready, and Bees United believes there is a strong case for securing Lionel Road if it is part of a regeneration and transport scheme. The regeneration is the stadium and its enabling development, and the transport scheme is the monorail, and the associated proposals for creating a transport hub at the site. Both are separate projects, but together they make a compelling case for developing the site for the benefit of the community. The area earmarked for a waste transfer station is on the west side of Lionel Road, and outside the triangle of land for sale. It is not critical to the Bees United plans for a stadium, although we'd like to include it as part of the stadium complex if we can.

The site also has the ability to increase the value of Griffin Park for two reasons, one is affordable housing (the percentage could be reduced, and then transferred to Lionel Road) and the other is the UDP which designates the pitch as green space which must be retained. Creating new green space in the local area may allow a degree of relaxation of the UDP and a greater density of housing. So, more houses with fewer of them designated as affordable will significantly increase the value of Griffin Park, meaning there is more cash to invest in the stadium project.

When the Bees United plans were first presented to the full board they were supportive of the scheme, but subsequently formed the impression that the project was wholly dependent on gaining approval for the construction of a monorail, which could take several years. Ron tried to put this point across in his programme notes, but unfortunately didn't quite get it right, and most people thought he was suggesting the whole scheme was unworkable because of the time it would take to complete.

This was a misunderstanding, and I can assure you all that the board is now right behind the proposals for building a stadium at Lionel Road. The problem is we don't know how long it will take before the Strategic Rail Authority make a decision on the sale of the land, and it's quite possible it may be sold anyway. However, not only are the supporters and the club committed to the site, Hounslow Council are as well, and they would be willing to help Bees United negotiate with a new owner for acquisition of the land if we had to. Obviously it will make things more difficult if the site is sold, but hopefully today's extremely important meeting between Hounslow Council and the Strategic Rail Authority will delay the proposed sale, and be the start of a process which keeps Brentford in Brentford!

I would also like to add that Bees United are fully committed to keeping Brentford FC at Griffin Park, if at all possible, until we have a new stadium site.
 
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Good news.

Thanks for keeping us more informed, John, and let us know what happens at the meeting today.
 

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Thanks for the response Mr Noades

oops, "this was a misunderstanding" :rolleyes:
 

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Thanks for the reply John. Will digest it properly in a little while, but I get the gist of it.
I hope that the club and Bees United will communicate more with the fans in order to keep us updated on the situation. Such communication will keep many fans happy, if not able to appease all of us, but at least there's answers to our important queries.

The overwhelming majority of fans that I speak to would not watch Brentford at Kingston. Don't move us to Kingston.
 

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Well I'm pleased to see John Mac respond. Unfortunately we are none the wiser regarding where we may be playing next season.

Perhaps John may be able to say whether he is aware of where the Board consider we will be playing next season based upon the current financial predictions? Or then again does it really matter as Chairman Noades is probably pulling the strings anyway as the majority shareholder!!!!!!!!!!
 

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bees66 said:

The comments at the top are Banana's edit. Nothing sinister!
 

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Sweepy said:
The comments at the top are Banana's edit. Nothing sinister!

Makes a change:p :cool:
 

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Baz Bee said:
Unfortunately we are none the wiser regarding where we may be playing next season.



Its up to the FANS !!

All we need is EVERYONE to do a STANDING ORDER to bees United for 33p a day (£10/month) and we stay at GP...........................otherwise?

Lets at LEAST get 1000 doing STO's by the end of Feb.........do YOURS NOW! (and ADD your name to the thread 'How much does the Clib mean to YOU!'

Join the 500 HEROES NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SSB
Proud to bee a BUM!
 

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Come off it John Mac. This is the same board of directors who would have had us playing at Woking by now if they had their way. Quit making apologies and excuses for this truly appalling and incompetent bunch who have managed us into this situation. When I looked at Griffin Park yesterday where my grandfather and father spent so much of their social hours it makes me weep when I see the circumstances to which we have been reduced following four and a bit years of mind numbing incompetence from the board who blindly toed the Noades party line and supported the ego trip.
I appreciate that you are trying to ride two horses but the reality is that the board of directors signed up for the Kingstonian Express almost certainly without ever crunching any numbers or having a business plan. In their haste to cement over Griffin Park and get Noades his monies back they went for anything that was going. Their loss of enthusiasm for Kingston (to which you refer) does not stem from a sudden love affair with Griffin Park but from the penny dropping that having tried to sell the legend that we have to leave Griffin Park because of the ongoing losses it has just been brought to their attention that the losses at Kingsmeadow will be unsustainable. They now have nowhere to go and will be unable to put the Kingsmeadow case to the shareholders and supporters as the numbers do not stack up. We would then be back to the "debt repayment exercise" which of course it is not is it Mr Noades?? Yeah, right!!!
John Mac, come on here and tell me that I am not speaking the truth.
When Noades was trundling around trying to find anywhere for Brentford to play and settled on Kingsmeadow as a second choice I repeatedly said on the GPG that there was no business plan. I ran the Kingsmeadow numbers privately and stated on the GPG that we could never breakeven at Kingsmeadow even with the overdraft repaid and a bit of money in an interest bearing account with the bank (see abee passim ad nauseam).
Now that Noades reportedly has been instructed by David Waddington to eat humble pie (Chronicle January 23) and throw his weight behind Lionel Road perhaps we can be told how many directors are now members of Bees United and signing up to the standing order scheme which is designed to raise monies solely for the purpose of trying to put right the damage inflicted through their incompetence. Or is it only the "cuddly, touchy, feely" Lifeline that gets the official support??
You state John Mac that "Ron didn't get it quite right" (in his programme notes). Are you referring to Noades as an individual or rather that the board of directors did not collectively understand the Lionel Road scheme?
I assume that it is the latter as none of his underlings seem to have disassociated themselves from his past programme notes even though Noades has tended recently to talk about "the board of directors" rather than "I" which is a rather significant shift in emphasis lost I am sure on Hargraves, Rogers and Herting.


This posting is provided as a public service and the opinions expressed are those of abee alone and certainly not those of Bees United.
 

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I'm with abee on this one.

I'd be most interested to here from John Mac whether he and his fellow directors have ever seen, let alone approved, a business plan that shows that BFC can sustain a future (profitably) a Kingsmeadow.

I do not want to know the detail, although that would be interesting, just that a viable business plan has been presented to and approved by the Board.

I await a response with interest. Silence, as usual, will be taken in the normal manner!!!
 

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Thanks Baz Bee. The point is of course that Noades did his Kingsmeadow numbers "on the back of a fag packet" a trick he learned from the GPG but he doesn't do it as well. He took his BFC losses deducted the bank interest, added on a few hundred thousand from the residual sale monies to be placed on deposit and came out to break-even.
This in his own mind justified his "I'm a great businessman, get me out of here" position but meanwhile back in the real world the numbers at Kingsmeadow didn't add up. Mr N. now has his chopper in the vice as he can hardly move us from a lossmaking (his version) Griffin Park to a lossmaking Kingsmeadow as there is no justification other than getting his monies back and his guarantees cancelled. The bank debt will be effectively frozen at £4.5million (and it is hard to see Barclays kicking up a fuss to sell GP in view of the lousy publicity that they will get) so what can our hero do. I will tell you now what I was telling you two years ago that the sale of GP has to be presented as a triumph by the board of directors and they will jump onto any scheme that cements the "Griffin Park must be sold" line. Noades can hardly say that it is because he wants his monies back as he threatened this writer with legal action on March 22 2001 if I repeated that the whole sordid mess would eventually be a debt repayment exercise. So as he is not selling GP to get his monies back what other possible reason does he have for moving the business from a lossmaking (his version) GP to a lossmaking Kingsmeadow. Remember "I don't care where Brentford plays" at the AGM. Well Mr Noades plenty of us do.
Bees United has in this writers view made a serious strategical error in aligning themselves with the board of directors as Noades will play the BU card at every opportunity. He now has a permanent ace up his sleeve and expect more of the " at a board meeting attended by representatives of Bees United" jargon.

He has split the fan base nicely but for now let Noades and his cronies manage themselves out of their own mess. Don't fight him and don't get into bed with him. After all this is what he has been demanding for years now to be allowed to do his thing without opposition. Under no circumstances should Bees United be represented on the board of directors when the administration decision is taken. I could write the Noades press release for him now

"...... a sad day but inevitable in the light of the opposition I have had from thick prats, Bosman ruling, LBH, Jim Levack (spawn of the devil), Bee H etc. I had wonderful plans for Brentford when I came here and I could take any club into the Premiership if only the fans.......... (continues for six pages with note on Bees fans).The Bees United representatives on the board agree with me that we must look upon this not as the beginning of the end but as the end of the beginning and if only......... Hounslow Council....... (continued for 109 pages with airbrushed photo of RN looking sad but determined)"

A move to Kingsmeadow will never stand up in the business sense and Noades now knows it. I will fight him to the death on the Kingsmeadow numbers if he tries to pretend that BFC can breakeven there.
 
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Baz Bee said:
......... just that a viable business plan has been presented to and approved by the Board.

You will wait a long time.........it doesn't take a genius to work out that we'd make huge losses going to Kingsmeadow for a 101 very obvious reasons starting with the inevitable 50% reduction in crowds. Any "thick prat" can see it.
 

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Stanley said:
You will wait a long time.........it doesn't take a genius to work out that we'd make huge losses going to Kingsmeadow for a 101 very obvious reasons starting with the inevitable 50% reduction in crowds. Any "thick prat" can see it.

You're not suggesting that's another fine mess he's got us into; are you Stanley?

lol lol :D
 

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So, what is to be done? Is the £[top ST at Chelsea] I pay as a S/O to BU a waste of effort? Is the situation hopeless (barring a decision by RN to write off all the debt and hand the club over now)?
 

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My personal view is that we keep the 106 restrictions on GP and fight out corner from TW8.

In my view administration is inevitable, BEES UNITED & Lifeline must come in with a rescue package, but this depends on the fans coughing up £30k per month approx in standing orders.

I think John is in a terrible position and he must state when he is left with no choice or in a corner.

Remember if we give John the manifesto to stand up against RN, then we have to back nim up financially.

I will never ever accept GP being sold with no new site secured. BEES UNITED know BIAS`s views on this so BFC, BIAS & BU need to get together and agree away forward to save the club.
 

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We need BOTH BIAS AND BU to fight for our survival.

BU have a clear remit as a supporters trust, to secure the future of a community based football club. This puts them in the unenviable position of having to work with the present administration. They have no choice and have secured a board position (more to come) and at least the club acknowledge their existence.

This leaves BIAS free to maintain its stance as a vocal protest group, taking to the fans and the wider sphere the problems we face as a club.

The 'red card' protest gains publicity for our plight and demonstrates the depth of feeling among the fan base (or at least I hope it will).

Remember that ABeeC sprang forth out of BIAS and the lobby group will continue to be needed while BU continue their sterling work 'behind the scenes'.
 

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If Bees Utd support the lifting of the restrictions imposed on the sale of Griffin Park without a secure future then they, to my mind, will be as guilty as Noades. It may be a trick of the light but I have thought recently that I detected a very slight drawing back by Noades on his previous stance and the recent Hargreaves interview gives some creedence to this. However, as said previously on this thread, it may be nothing more than Noades realising that Barclays Bank can tolerate a cash-flow problem of £4.5 million rather more easily than he can.
 

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"If Bees Utd support the lifting of the restrictions imposed on the sale of Griffin Park without a secure future then they, to my mind, will be as guilty as Noades"

why the they, are you not a member :D:D:D:D if you are a member then you can have a say in how it is run.......

Ok maybe i shouldnt say that as I havent got round to joining but I do have a standing order with my dad so we put double in, i cant do one myself as i cannot guarantee there will be any money in my account every month :D. Next home game I will join, it is actually quite bad. Sorry.

Hounslow could just lift the 106, we could outbid whoever else wants it, then finance a stadium by getting an assurance from hounslow that they would deem some of the site suitable for housing if cleaned up. A bit risky but do we have an alternative, if everything goes balls up we could always buy loftus road :D
 

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Mr Cynical - BIAS has tried to work with RN but the simple fact is he treats you as idiots and he has virtually killed our club.

He only listens to David Waddington, Altonwood Accountant.

He does not want to work with BIAS.
 

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I'm sure BU realise that any move away kills BFC and that they will be held accountable by the fans:cool:
 

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BU recent programme statement quite clearly states that the lifting of the restrictions will enable BFC at least a further 3 years at GP if required. Surely it is better to have a more valuable asset with the restrictioons lifted and give the fans 3 years to sort out a longer term furture within the borough.
IMHO I do feel that if we are put into administration, the risk of playing at anywhere but GP next season are greater.
 

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John Mac said:
I've split out John Mac's statement and subsequent replies from the original thread to make it easier to find. The original thread is here: https://griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14713 - Banana

I would also like to point out that occasionally the club will issue statements on behalf of the board which may not have been discussed in a board meeting. This is perfectly in order as long as they do not breach company policy.


Do I take it from this statement that the slagging off of Bees United, BIAS, thick prat supporters, Jim Levack et al is then official company policy. :confused: :confused:
 

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Gee Bee said:
BU recent programme statement quite clearly states that the lifting of the restrictions will enable BFC at least a further 3 years at GP if required. Surely it is better to have a more valuable asset with the restrictioons lifted and give the fans 3 years to sort out a longer term furture within the borough.
IMHO I do feel that if we are put into administration, the risk of playing at anywhere but GP next season are greater.

Gee Bee I generally look kindly on your posts but not this one.

"............give the fans 3 years to sort out a longer term future within the borough."

This is I submit the sole responsibility of the board but you seem to suggest that it is now up to the despised "thick prats" to dig Noades, Hargraves, Rogers and Herting out of their mess. Heads the board wins, tails and it is the fans fault.
:rolleyes:
 

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abee said:
Gee Bee I generally look kindly on your posts but not this one.

"............give the fans 3 years to sort out a longer term future within the borough."

This is I submit the sole responsibility of the board but you seem to suggest that it is now up to the despised "thick prats" to dig Noades, Hargraves, Rogers and Herting out of their mess. Heads the board wins, tails and it is the fans fault.
:rolleyes:

I understand where you come from, but I am deeply concerned that the alternative is administration and that will bring forward our departure from GP. If someone can prove otherwise I am prepared to listen, but having looked at a few other clubs administrations, I feel BFC is not quite the same situation.
But I agree it is frustrating that in all likelyhood that the names mentioned get away from the mess and probbaly with some nice earners in their back pockets.
 

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Nigel Brooks said:
They have no choice and have secured a board position (more to come) ........


How many more to come, for what purpose pray and at what price.

Can you provide the likely composition of the board following the appointment of the "more to come" and advise whether the monies paid for the new board positions will be fully secured against a mortgage on Griffin Park.

Can you also advise exactly what difference it makes whether BU has just one or more than one director on the board if they are in a minority and when in any event the Chairman could if necessary use the weight of his shareholding to push through anything that he wishes.

Please also confirm that Bees United will retain a minimum sum of £100,001 on an escrow account in the event that they are suddenly offered the club at the previously agreed option price.
 

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Baz Bee said:
I await a response with interest. Silence, as usual, will be taken in the normal manner!!!

ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !
 

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Baz Bee said:
I'm with abee on this one.

I'd be most interested to here from John Mac whether he and his fellow directors have ever seen, let alone approved, a business plan that shows that BFC can sustain a future (profitably) a Kingsmeadow.

I do not want to know the detail, although that would be interesting, just that a viable business plan has been presented to and approved by the Board.

I await a response with interest. Silence, as usual, will be taken in the normal manner!!!

No
 

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What a shock!!!!!! You mean after all this talk of moving to Kingsmeadow the board of directors sanctioned a payment of option monies and they had no idea whether Brentford FC could break even there.

Boy, the minutes of that board meeting must make interesting reading!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
 

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£60,000 - oh dear, oh dear, oh dear !

Yet when a consortium wanted to buy the Club before, that horrible little runt Waddington (imho !) demanded on seeing the consortiums Business Plan - hey abee, do ya reckon it's because Noades, Skinner and Waddington don't know how to prepare one themselves ? :mad:
 

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They know how to prepare a business plan alright - even allowing for the fact that Noades is a business buffoon.
The lack of one just shows that Noades doesn't give a flying f**k where or if Brentford play in the future.

You can only marvel at a so-called board of directors that allowed him to do it.
 

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Thanks John Mac.

I now hope everyone who thinks Chairman Noades and his poodles (sorry, lap dogs; oops, sorry, Cronies - sort yourself out Baz) fellow Directors have any idea of what they are doing and, more importantly managing BFC's finances in a judicious manner, can now see him for what he is.

This surely demonstartes that having “given” Kingstonian £60k of BFC money without even a business plan he actually has the business accumen of a retarded slug? Or is he so sly and devious that he did not want to present one?

How the bloody hell can he preach to anyone about finance when he has given away £60k without presenting any plan to support that such a move would be of any benefit? Unless of course he is just demonstrating that he shows the same contempt for his fellow Directors as he does for the supporters.

This man is beyond belief. If he had any decency (joke!!!), he would walk away from BFC leaving the same level of debt as when he arrived. I do not think he has the guts for that though!!!!
 

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Baz Bee said:
This man is beyond belief. If he had any decency (joke!!!), he would walk away from BFC leaving the same level of debt as when he arrived. I do not think he has the guts for that though!!!!

Well said Baz.

We need to get rid of the evil one as soon as possible, because it is only going to get worse with him captaining the ship.

NOADES OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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abee said:
.......... the board of directors signed up for the Kingstonian Express almost certainly without ever crunching any numbers or having a business plan. In their haste to cement over Griffin Park and get Noades his monies back they went for anything that was going. Their loss of enthusiasm for Kingston (to which you refer) does not stem from a sudden love affair with Griffin Park but from the penny dropping that having tried to sell the legend that we have to leave Griffin Park because of the ongoing losses it has just been brought to their attention that the losses at Kingsmeadow will be unsustainable.

Gentlemen, I rest my case. :cool:

Dont'cha just love these BFC board meetings. Mind you I suggest that we exempt the Managing Director from any blame; he would have been in the kitchen with the Typhoo tea bags whilst the others were sanctioning the Kingsmeadow option payment without any business plan (or should that be clue).

You really couldn't make this up could you but remember where some of the monies have gone everytime you hear that BFC will run out of money in February, March, end of the season (delete where applicable) and that the losses are £1million, £890,000, £710,000 (tick whichever one you fancy as flavour of the month).

Remember Noades posted on here in March 2001 that I was considered "unsuitable" to be a director of Brentford Football Club. He certainly got that right. :rolleyes: I've added it to my cv.
 

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Noades, what a joke !

abee said:
Remember Noades posted on here in March 2001 that I was considered "unsuitable" to be a director of Brentford Football Club. He certainly got that right. :rolleyes: I've added it to my cv.

and there are those who posted from an early date under the Noades regime that considered Noades to be "unsuitable" to be a director of Brentford Football Club, we certainly got that right (imho) !
 
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Bee H said:
£60,000 - oh dear, oh dear, oh dear !

Yet when a consortium wanted to buy the Club before, that horrible little runt Waddington (imho !) demanded on seeing the consortiums Business Plan - hey abee, do ya reckon it's because Noades, Skinner and Waddington don't know how to prepare one themselves ? :mad:

And who was behind this consortium.....!!!? ;)
 

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Well Mr.Noades reads whats on here apparently.So over to you Mr.Noades.Perhaps you would also care to let us know if a business plan was put together for Woking while you're writing your reply.You really couldn't make this stuff up.

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John Mac should resign as a director. BU are getting tarnished by their association with Noades and his crooks.

Ron were has our money gone? Tea Boy you are not fit to lace my boots you pri*k, how can you have sanctioned £60k of our money on this? Does someone adivse you on how to wake up in the morning?

You are a first class muppet who will be driven out of our club:cool:
 

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They've been getting away with this sort of sh1t for far too long.

Time to put a little more 'pressure' on the **** maybe?
 
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Brickie Chap said:
John Mac should resign as a director. BU are getting tarnished by their association with Noades and his crooks.


Might make it slightly difficult to secure the clubs future if they refuse to deal with the people who actually own it don't you think? :rolleyes:
 

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Mr Cynical said:
Might make it slightly difficult to secure the clubs future if they refuse to deal with the people who actually own it don't you think? :rolleyes:

Do you think Noades really wants to deal with BU or anyone else for that matter? He is only interested in selling GP and taking as much cash as possible away with him. Gee whiz, look at his business plan for Kingston....damm I forgot he didn't have one:cool:
 

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Brickie Chap said:
Do you think Noades really wants to deal with BU or anyone else for that matter? He is only interested in selling GP and taking as much cash as possible away with him. Gee whiz, look at his business plan for Kingston....damm I forgot he didn't have one:cool:

So basically you're saying we're scr£wed anyway? You're saying we might as well just give up?
 

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Mr Cynical said:
So basically you're saying we're scr£wed anyway? You're saying we might as well just give up?

No I am not giving up and I would ask everyone else not to give up but you must bear in mind that Noades has lied since he arrived, why would he change now?:cool:
 

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Brickie Chap said:
No I am not giving up and I would ask everyone else not to give up but you must bear in mind that Noades has lied since he arrived, why would he change now?:cool:

He won't!!!!!!!

GET THE EVIL ONE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Brickie chap is right, Noades has ruined this club big time, nobody else just Noades. He should be held accountable, since he came here this club has just fallen deeper & deeper into the sh*t. This is Noades business plan, buy into Brentford F.C, spend as much money as I can, put them into debt to the tune of a few million, sell GP, send them to Kingstonion's, so they will loose more money and will eventually die (I wont give a sh*t). I will have made all that money from the sale of G.P.

This is why we should never ever move away from G. P. till we have a new site in the borough, Kingston will mean the certain death of our club. Dont forget Noades & Noades alone, has crippled this club.
 
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