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Sweepy
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John Terry
looks like Fabio want him back as England's Captian, Rio is fuming... I think he's had his chance and the players wont back him, especially after speaking out in the last world cup
Rio's fuming. I suggest most of the England team and many fans will be fuming as well. John Terry is England's recurring nightmare. Another morale-buster.
To give the captain's armband back to JT after his astonishing press conference last year defies belief. Either Capello is worried how much influence JT has or he is a complete ******* moron. Either way I think Capello should go and go now.
hanworthbee
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John Terry
he might have had a leg to stand on if he was ever fit enough to play....most of the England team are an insult to the country and we may aswell not play with a captain
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bees66
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does anyone no, if he's played the same player in every game under him?? that tells you how poor it's been under him
Brentford 4 Life
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John Terry
I hate John Terry and his family but it cant be said he isnt a good player, he is a leader and if he wasnt such c*nt would make a great England captain but i dont want him to captain our country again.
John Terry
agree give it back to Terry, but he never should have lost the band.
If i was him would tell Fab to do one
If i was him would tell Fab to do one
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bees66
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John Terry
he lost respect everywhere for what he did, other than blooming Chelsea..Terry will lap all this up...father of the year my arse :bigsigh:
Boscombe Bee
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John Terry
Got to say i feel sorry for Rio, hes the captain of England and he gets dumped for being injured, hardly instills loyalty in your players. But from what ive seen its about par the course from Fabio. I would never let Terry in as captain, in fact i wouldnt even have him in the England team, he's so painfully slow, and cannot deal with a world class forward, time to put the donkey out to grass. I would have sticked with Rio, but if not Rio i would have gone for Jack Wilshere.
Sweepy
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You'll have to be more specific - quite a bit more specific in fact. Mr Terry has quite a lengthy crime sheet.
Why he is considered a suitable leader of the national team is beyond me, but characterises why I have been reduced to looking out for England's results in recent years. Brentford making the Championship or England winning the WC in 2014? It's a no-brainer for me.
I have no respect for most of that squad and cannot wait for a new batch of young players that we can get behind again.
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bees66
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John Terry
who can't keep his cock in his pants... like sweeps says I hate seeing him on TV... he's one hated man I bet..
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bees66
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Boscombe Bee
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Ive heard from a relative who works in the football media, that there is another Terry story to come yet, but the press are waiting for the right moment. He doesnt know the specifics but needless to say it wont be complimentary
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bees66
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Sweepy
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In other words, the optimum time to cause maximum disruption to the Euro 2012 preparations.
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John Terry
Not sure a teenager who's been in trouble off the pitch is the best idea for an England captain. I'm surprised Gerrard isn't in with a chance, although he is injured at the moment his record isn't as bad as Rio's. Terry is probably more vocal on the pitch than Gerrard but it's a massive U-turn from Capello, I can't think what he'll say when asked how Terry has changed in the last 12 months. I think he's right to change captain though, it is harsh on Ferdinand because it's not his fault, but you can't have a captain who hardly ever plays.
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horshambees
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If you tell someone that they eventually beleive it............Lacks pace,positional sense and concentration.The only thing on his sleeve is the snot from his hooter
jlove
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John Terry
Surely Terry is the only player in the England squad who is likely to play regularly and is 'captain material'? Who gives a toss what Rio Ferdinand thinks, he's just a sick-note, Gerrard is going that way, neither is very coherent and there's really no-one else. I don't particularly like the guy but he's not in the team to be liked. The red-tops have had a field day with him but they only seem to want distract the England team with salacious rubbish; personally, I don't give a $hit what he gets up to off the pitch. He's not someone I'd go the the pub with.
Southern Bee
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John Terry
I will boo him at Eng v Ghana whether he's captain or not. Hate the bloke, arrogant W****r
Owlsmoor_Bee
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John Terry
Regardless of what he might be like as a person off the field, on it he's the consummate professional and a natural leader. He's the best man for the job IMO.
horshambees
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Shows the state of our national team when JT is a shoe in to play.We going to get his panto like defending in the euros next year,if they make it,as he is getting older and slower? All i hear is he is a natural leader and a legend.Funny how they came up with this after he thought of going to Man City,a Chelsea marketing ploy and JT beleives it too rofllolrofllol
Mr Tree
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jlove
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John Terry
OK, you are the England manager; you need to select a captain to lead the team through to the 2012 UEFA European Football Championship; he needs to be experienced; he needs to be a regular player in the first eleven; he needs to be a natural leader... please nominate...
Mr Tree
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John Terry
"you need to select a captain to lead the team through to the 2012 UEFA European Football Championship" - do i?
"he needs to be a regular player in the first eleven" - is he? why? he's not actually that good. but we're not exactly spoilt for choice.
"he needs to be a regular player in the first eleven" - is he? why? he's not actually that good. but we're not exactly spoilt for choice.
Beat Poet
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John Terry
What does an England captain do apart from belt out the national anthem and shout "COME ON!!!" when going up for corners?
Inappropriate Smilies Bee
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John Terry
gary neville or stuart pearce for me. didn't ashley cole wear the armband recently for half a match? sad times. they are all much of a muchness. football died in 1992.
nick logan
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Well said, he is a great player. He shagged sh*tty Wayne Bridge's EX bird. So fooking what. Should never have had the arm band taken away in the first place.
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kevalutonbee
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John Terry
Don't partake in the Chelsea love in so have no idea if Lampard is fit or not but if he was good enough to captain in Denmark why is he not fit enough to do it now?
I'm kind of with Steve Clridge on this one. It doesn't matter who the captain is with Captain Corelli and his mandolin in charge if we get to Ukraine/Poland we have no chance anyway
I'm kind of with Steve Clridge on this one. It doesn't matter who the captain is with Captain Corelli and his mandolin in charge if we get to Ukraine/Poland we have no chance anyway
John Terry
Boo him?? What the hell?
No wonder why Ashley Cole said he would rather win the league with Chelsea than win the world cup with England
jlove
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Soooo... the current nominations are:
Rio Ferdinand - a sick-note who ducks drug tests;
Jack Wilshire - soon to be a regular and certainly better than Gerrard / Lampard / Barry/ Carrick / Milner / Cole (J).
How about Alan Ball?
Rio Ferdinand - a sick-note who ducks drug tests;
Jack Wilshire - soon to be a regular and certainly better than Gerrard / Lampard / Barry/ Carrick / Milner / Cole (J).
How about Alan Ball?
Mr Tree
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John Terry
i think i'm nominating "does it really matter? let's talk about it game-by-game"
i'm also astonished that John "Weak-Link" Terry is suddenly being talked of as a great player
i'm also astonished that John "Weak-Link" Terry is suddenly being talked of as a great player
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bees66
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i'm also astonished that John "Weak-Link" Terry is suddenly being talked of as a great player
yer, he's world class..roflrofl
nick logan
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i think i'm nominating "does it really matter? let's talk about it game-by-game"
i'm also astonished that John "Weak-Link" Terry is suddenly being talked of as a great player
He is an excellent defender.
Mr Tree
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John Terry
he obviously wouldn't have played so many games at that level without being decent, and good defenders are hard to find these days. but he's not all that great. certainly shouldn't be a given in the team...
Inappropriate Smilies Bee
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good post.
ask poor Bryan Robson. the last proper england captain.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/12759530.stm
sad news. but knowing him he will fight it for a good fifty more years! good luck Bryan.
Boscombe Bee
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John Terry
Why does he need to be experienced? And why look for a leader for a year and a bit? If you are looking to replace Rio then at this point id be looking long term, not short term which Terry is. Why not find a captain that will take us to the next World Cup
jlove
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Boscombe Bee
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BeeHomeSoon
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John Terry
To be honest Capello hasn't really given anyone else a proper run out apart from Wilshire so it is a bit difficult to choose a captain.
I personally would start a complete rebuilding process to be honest. Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Rio, etc they have all been part of a failed regime. Eriksson tried, Maclaren tired and now Capello tried, these players will win us f-all, so why not win f-all whilst rebuilding a possible team with younger players that can move forwards.
Maybe Gary Cahill as at least he will still be of a resonable age for the next Euros and World Cup. I don't know but Terry is not the answer now and will not be the answer long term either.
Salford Bee
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John Terry
I don't see the point of a football captain anyway. What decisions does he make on the pitch. Does he motivate the players? If the players can't be motivated to play for their country then they shouldn't be playing for their country. It's a figurehead role IMO.
Would Kev play the same way if he wasn't captain? Yes. Would Legge play the same way if he was? Yes.
Would Kev play the same way if he wasn't captain? Yes. Would Legge play the same way if he was? Yes.
horshambees
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As i said it shows the state of our national team when Terry is a shoe in to play regardless of his form.Tells me its going backwards rather than forwards.The natural leader played liked an idiot against Germany last summer with a world class display of defending against top opposition.He gets caught out of position on a regular basis but has little positional sense anyway.He has been supported by top defenders in Rio,Alex and Carvalho who clear up his fairly common errors.When Man City were interested in him,CFC marketed him as a legend and sadly people believed it,thats the power of marketing,SKY do it evey week with Super Sunday and the monday night match as the greatest show on earth.Do not believe eveything you hear imo.Sadly he is the best of a bad bunch of central defenders.As for England skipper i would nominate Stevie Gerrard,only if they would play him behind the front two but as he is out and so is Rio Capello has no choice as he doesnt even know who his X1 is.As i stated i think he is getting slower,do you think he is getting quicker then?
jlove
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No, and I'm not supporting him. I'm just pointing out that having a moan about Terry because you don't like him very much is not very helpful when discussing the position of England captain. If someone has to be captain, then there has to be nominations; I can't see anyone and, judging by this thread, no-one else can. Jack Wilshire is the only proposition and he's a bit "fresh".
Mr Tree
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Simon T
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John Terry
Nail on head
After the last world cup everybody assumed it was time for the pyrite generation to give way and give youth a chance. Looks like Capello is gunning for another quarter final exit in the Euros by sticking with the players who he knows will deliver that.
jlove
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Is an option but then it becomes meaningless... and the tabloids won't have someone to target! My main point is that there is not an obvious choice, which is more of a worry.