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lots of very sensitive people on here since the game. We , including him , gave our all , left everything out there. We finish in the top 10 of the toughest league in the world , we survive massive turmoil and look strong for next year. A guy taking the plaudits from his old supporters is just a small incidental piece of fluff in a whole season of endeavour. COYB
 

Jordan Henderson

Spot on
What many on here are missing is the fact that Henderson never got to say goodbye to the Liverpool fans when he left, I'm not saying that is an excuse but try putting yourself in that situation, he won the biggest prizes at Anfield and was adored by their fans.
I for one would love him to still be with us come August because he obviously still has much to give hence his inclusion in the England World Cup squad.
Fair comment he wasn't at the races yesterday but doesnt every player have off days?
Did Henderson leave Anfield with good grace or just chase the money ? In my book that decides how you are and should be expected to be treated when returning during the post and prematch rituals. During the match you give 100 per cent to your paymasters on the day if not you disrespect the sport that made you who you are.
 

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I think the outrage is completely over the top. I think he's past his use-by date as a player, but he clearly makes a huge contribution behind the scenes and that's why he's going to the World Cup for a record time. I think we should be proud that one of ours will represent England in the World Cup Finals and not get petty about whether he had too much of a love in with the fans of a club he won every honour going with and never had the chance of a farewell from them when he left. I think all the abuse he's getting makes us look small-minded and a bit tinpot. Frankly, it's rather embarrassing.

I’d say it’s the complete opposite actually. We’ve had plenty of times now where players disrespect us, Toney, and now Henderson.
I think you really had to be at the game to understand the love in that was going on, we could have done without Henderson being involved from our side.
 

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I’d say it’s the complete opposite actually. We’ve had plenty of times now where players disrespect us, Toney, and now Henderson.
I think you really had to be at the game to understand the love in that was going on, we could have done without Henderson being involved from our side.
Henderson hasn’t constantly lied or said “f*** Brentford” to chase pussy. Big difference. Not even in that ****’s league.
 

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I'm grateful that so many of my fellow Bees' fans have explained another interestung facet of modern football life to an old timer like me.
I'd never have guessed that a footballer - a human being with human emotions - walking off the pitch slowly had more effect on our missing out on European competition than the whole team drawing 8 (I think) out of our last 10 games and not winning a further 16 points.
Many thanks to all.
Most have claimed that it probably wouldn’t have changed anything. They’re more upset over the end of game antics.
 

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IT always gave it his all for us, hard to say Jordan gave his all for us yesterday.

A difference between not having a great game and not trying. He is a professional and put in a shift yesterday, he was just not at his best.

I think him getting booked on the bench in the last few minutes showed how passionate he was about us winning yesterday.
 

Jordan Henderson

IT always gave it his all for us, hard to say Jordan gave his all for us yesterday.
Promotion winner, record breaking goal scorer at the time, first to hit 20 goals for us in the PL, first post war Brentford England international vs 35 year old midfielder who has been here less than 12 months and needed to get dropped for Janelt for us to play our best football of the season. Tough choice!
 

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Pure quality?! He passed the ball out of play multiple times yesterday he was Liverpool’s best player. Never want to see him in a Brentford shirt again
You’re right.

One bad game clearly means that everything he has achieved is meaningless. Despite winning basically everything there is to win in his club career and representing England at multiple tournaments.

Get a grip.
 

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One bad game clearly means that everything he has achieved is meaningless. Despite winning basically everything there is to win in his club career and representing England at multiple tournaments.
He’s not achieved any of that bar an England call up with us though. It’s all very impressive, but his last trophy was over 4 years ago, his last major tournament appearance was 3 and a half years ago. None of that proves he’s “pure quality” right now at nearly 36 years old. He was a fantastic player many years ago, that doesn’t mean he’s a fantastic player at this exact moment in time.
 

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He’s not achieved any of that bar an England call up with us though. It’s all very impressive, but his last trophy was over 4 years ago, his last major tournament appearance was 3 and a half years ago. None of that proves he’s “pure quality” right now at nearly 36 years old. He was a fantastic player many years ago, that doesn’t mean he’s a fantastic player at this exact moment in time.
100%, sure a good few on here will lap up his achievements at Lpool to “strengthen” their points though.
 

Jordan Henderson

100%, sure a good few on here will lap up his achievements at Lpool to “strengthen” their points though.
OK, ignore his past achievements - if people like Mathew Benham, Phil Giles and their entire BFC team think he was the best player for us this season, well I'll gracefully (and gratefully) agree with them.
 

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He’s not achieved any of that bar an England call up with us though. It’s all very impressive, but his last trophy was over 4 years ago, his last major tournament appearance was 3 and a half years ago. None of that proves he’s “pure quality” right now at nearly 36 years old. He was a fantastic player many years ago, that doesn’t mean he’s a fantastic player at this exact moment in time.
Odd argument.

How many of our players have won anything with us?

If he was still at his prime, he wouldn’t be playing for us, would he?
 

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For the past couple of seasons the DM replacement for Norgaard should have been key. I can see the logic with Henderson coming in as Keith needed some experience but it has meant for many games the midfield has struggled. This summer, this has to a priority. Yarmo needs help with quality around him.
Milambo injury didn’t help
 

Jordan Henderson

OK, ignore his past achievements - if people like Mathew Benham, Phil Giles and their entire BFC team think he was the best player for us this season, well I'll gracefully (and gratefully) agree with them.
You can have your own opinion without just following what the owners think.

Does MB and PG think he was the best player for us this season, please do link

Dosent sound right as he’s had dips and injuries.
 

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I think he started the season well. But since coming back these past few games... he's been awful. And that game was the icing on the cake.

Just think he's lost it. Was not on the same wavelength as other players at all, as shown by his consistent slow floaty balls out to Dango...when he needed driven passes to allow the quick transition.

Disappointing, and I think he's easily behind several of our midfielders for next season. Wouldn't want to see him start at all.

And on that note, not sold on his position in the England squad considering. Seems to have lost that spark of aggression that made him a good player. Now he thinks he's some kind of Pirlo, when he's not. Yes, he can pass the ball, but it feels like his ego is getting in the way of him picking the right pass.
 

Jordan Henderson

Odd argument.

How many of our players have won anything with us?

If he was still at his prime, he wouldn’t be playing for us, would he?
Exactly the point. The titles you’re referencing as proof that he’s “pure quality” were all in his prime, but as you say, if he was still that same player in his prime he wouldn’t be playing for us. His titles and major tournament experience shows he was once a great player, but doesn’t exactly prove that right now, at nearly 36 years of age, he’s still that same great player.
 

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I'm grateful that so many of my fellow Bees' fans have explained another interestung facet of modern football life to an old timer like me.
I'd never have guessed that a footballer - a human being with human emotions - walking off the pitch slowly had more effect on our missing out on European competition than the whole team drawing 8 (I think) out of our last 10 games and not winning a further 16 points.
Many thanks to all.
I’m not sure there are many who are saying Henderson’s walk off meant that we didn’t qualify for Europe!

My point was simply this…… this was a must win game. We were drawing at that point and then concede. You can feel the exasperation in the stands (perhaps our chance had gone). So then seeing one of our players straight away clap the fans who had cheered their goal, wander over and hug the players who had just scored against us and walk slowly off without any sense of urgency for us restarting the game just felt wrong.

I get he’s been at the club for years and didn’t get a proper send off but he would have known, this being the last game of the season, he could have done his very own lap of honour at the end of the game (after thanking the away fans) and the ground would have still been full.

Of course it didn’t impact is qualifying for Europe but I felt it belittled what was a really important game for us (it wasn’t soccer aid) and he has the opportunity after the final whistle to receive their adulation.
 

Jordan Henderson

This is getting silly. He captained Liverpool for the best part of a decade, and as a result he's going to have formed strong friendships with all the players he went on that journey with. You don't drop your mates, pretend none of that ever happened, and ignore them just because you move to another club.
 

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This is getting silly. He captained Liverpool for the best part of a decade, and as a result he's going to have formed strong friendships with all the players he went on that journey with. You don't drop your mates, pretend none of that ever happened, and ignore them just because you move to another club.
No one is suggesting he should.
 

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I’m not sure there are many who are saying Henderson’s walk off meant that we didn’t qualify for Europe!

My point was simply this…… this was a must win game. We were drawing at that point and then concede. You can feel the exasperation in the stands (perhaps our chance had gone). So then seeing one of our players straight away clap the fans who had cheered their goal, wander over and hug the players who had just scored against us and walk slowly off without any sense of urgency for us restarting the game just felt wrong.

I get he’s been at the club for years and didn’t get a proper send off but he would have known, this being the last game of the season, he could have done his very own lap of honour at the end of the game (after thanking the away fans) and the ground would have still been full.

Of course it didn’t impact is qualifying for Europe but I felt it belittled what was a really important game for us (it wasn’t soccer aid) and he has the opportunity after the final whistle to receive their adulation.
Extremely well said.
 

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Milambo injury didn’t help
Milambo is not a DM or even a CM. If Henderson is in many starting lines up next season then we are in trouble. Look at goals like Wolves 1st where he was a statue that they just ran past with ease. He slows everything down and our best dynamic football (Muff at home, Everton away) he was on the bench.
 

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I’d say it’s the complete opposite actually. We’ve had plenty of times now where players disrespect us, Toney, and now Henderson.
I think you really had to be at the game to understand the love in that was going on, we could have done without Henderson being involved from our side.
I was at the game. Henderson did not disrespect us one bit.
 

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I’d say it’s the complete opposite actually. We’ve had plenty of times now where players disrespect us, Toney, and now Henderson.
I think you really had to be at the game to understand the love in that was going on, we could have done without Henderson being involved from our side.


Have I missed something?

The bloke is an Anfield legend and they applauded him off because they didn’t have a chance to do so when he left them.

Why have we got a a big pile of wet nappies stacked up in the away end?
 

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I’m not bothered what he did or didn’t do yesterday let’s face it we blew Europe ourselves over the last few months with lots of draws when we needed or should have won.
My comment was based on overall this season don’t think he’s been all that.
 

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I’ve just answered that yes, it is the implication of what people are saying.

If you’re comfortable with that then fair enough.
Can you show me examples then, please?

You can’t just say that people are implying something to use as proof that you are right!
 

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I’m not bothered what he did or didn’t do yesterday let’s face it we blew Europe ourselves over the last few months with lots of draws when we needed or should have won.
This is it for me.

We won, what, 2 from our last 12 or 13?

Henderson wasn’t even available for a lot of those games and even when he was he was lacking in fitness and match time.

He was a good signing for us. Player of the season? No. But that applies to everyone but Igor, surely?
 

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Milambo is not a DM or even a CM. If Henderson is in many starting lines up next season then we are in trouble. Look at goals like Wolves 1st where he was a statue that they just ran past with ease. He slows everything down and our best dynamic football (Muff at home, Everton away) he was on the bench.
I’m not saying he is, but he’s a midfielder, an extra body we could have done with allowing different permutations. Henderson has been on bench more than starting and we probably played our best games without Damsgaard starting also. That was possible because we had fewer injuries and depth to squad, which is where my point is Milambo would have been useful addition during the injury period this last 2 months.
 

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Missing out on europe hurts and people are naturally pretty emotional about it but i think a bit of redirection onto Henderson is what's going on imho.
 

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I'm grateful that so many of my fellow Bees' fans have explained another interestung facet of modern football life to an old timer like me.
I'd never have guessed that a footballer - a human being with human emotions - walking off the pitch slowly had more effect on our missing out on European competition than the whole team drawing 8 (I think) out of our last 10 games and not winning a further 16 points.
Many thanks to all.

Not sure about that, Larry. Drawing 8/10 was the past and we needed to win the game to get onto Europe. Joing the Salah and Robertson show was rubbish.

I couldn't given two f***s about his emotions to be honest. What about my emotions? I was nearly crying into my cheeseburger knowing it was all a dream - joke, obviously.
 

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I didn't want to post this before the game as it might have looked overly negative but I was hoping he wouldn't get carried away by the Anfield testimonial feel. He absolutely did.
I can absolutely understand why he did though. A standing ovation at Anfield as an opposition player is virtually unheard of. Add to that the emotional farewells to two of his pals with whom he shared the peak days of his career - plus the Jota tributes. It was a perfect storm and he is a human being. He came to us to do a job for us and for himself. That arrangement has worked out well for both parties. What happens next will be interesting...
 

Jordan Henderson

Not sure about that, Larry. Drawing 8/10 was the past and we needed to win the game to get onto Europe. Joing the Salah and Robertson show was rubbish.

I couldn't given two f***s about his emotions to be honest. What about my emotions? I was nearly crying into my cheeseburger knowing it was all a dream - joke, obviously.
Obviously you and your cheeseburger were giving the 100% attention you expected from this automaton to supporting the team.
 

Jordan Henderson

It didn't hurt it either

The ref knew what was going on and added on 10 minutes.
So, will we be happy when a substituted oppo player slowly walks off at the G-Tech next season, when his team are leading, because "the ref knows what's going on", and will add on the appropriate time?
Or shall we "encourage" him to get off the f***ing pitch ASAP?
Like we currently do.
 

Jordan Henderson

This is getting silly. He captained Liverpool for the best part of a decade, and as a result he's going to have formed strong friendships with all the players he went on that journey with. You don't drop your mates, pretend none of that ever happened, and ignore them just because you move to another club.
Yep,
Some people on here spending too much time reading the Notts Forest and Leeds United "Self entitled t**ts" handbooks.
 

Jordan Henderson

So, will we be happy when a substituted oppo player slowly walks off at the G-Tech next season, when his team are leading, because "the ref knows what's going on", and will add on the appropriate time?
Or shall we "encourage" him to get off the f***ing pitch ASAP?
Like we currently do.
If it's Pontus coming back playing his last ever match at the Gtech having led us to a promotion previously then I'll be clapping him off and he can take as long as he wants.

I won't be getting stressed about it.
 

Jordan Henderson

This is getting silly. He captained Liverpool for the best part of a decade, and as a result he's going to have formed strong friendships with all the players he went on that journey with. You don't drop your mates, pretend none of that ever happened, and ignore them just because you move to another club.
All true, but you don't take your curtain calls in the middle of the play.
 

Jordan Henderson

If it's Pontus coming back playing his last ever match at the Gtech having led us to a promotion previously then I'll be clapping him off and he can take as long as he wants.

I won't be getting stressed about it.
Fair enough.
I'll lead the apathetic response from the West Stand too then. 👍

Doesn't exactly chime with previous calls to make the G-Tech as intimidating as possible though.
 
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