Jordan Ibe
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Wooburn Bee
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Jordan Ibe
Any which way he needs competitive football at a team that actually plays football. Whilst goalkeeper isn't a straight comparison in essence Sczesney went from being bees keeper to being Arsenal's No 1. If its about him getting assured game time then a side at top of L1 would be a better bet than a championship side where he could be warming bench for most of time
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Kingston Bee
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Jordan Ibe
Yes I work with his dad. Spoke to him yesterday again about this he thinks I am mad and just laughs. Dream on he says, Jordan was earmarked for Wigan prior to Uwe going up there, so I think that says it all. Close thread.
Jordan Ibe
His Dad sounds like an a*se! Hope Jordan is a little more grounded.
larrysigny
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Jordan Ibe
Players dropping two divisions? Try Conor McAleny - and I don't know what division they were in when they came to GP, but add Jeff Schlupp and Saido Berahino.
And weren't Adam Forshaw, Jake Bidwell and Shaleum Logan with Prem. teams when they first came on loan - not to mention our other current loanees George Saville and Marcello Trotta?
And weren't Adam Forshaw, Jake Bidwell and Shaleum Logan with Prem. teams when they first came on loan - not to mention our other current loanees George Saville and Marcello Trotta?
LingfieldBee
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Jordan Ibe
What young players at the top level have to realise is because of the vast amounts of money at risk. Managers are less likely than ever to give a young lad a chance at the top. Might even be replaced by another young player from abroad! These young players need to realise going on loan can be a life line making networks and contacts as the majority will see their contracts out when they turn say 21 and be left with no club.
Forshaw is a prime example of this. He is now flourishing with us and could go all the way to the top. But without us and coming on loan to us he might have just been another name on the youth release list at Everton with no loaned experience and no reputation built up. Just another wasted potential talent.
Forshaw is a prime example of this. He is now flourishing with us and could go all the way to the top. But without us and coming on loan to us he might have just been another name on the youth release list at Everton with no loaned experience and no reputation built up. Just another wasted potential talent.
Kingston Bee
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Jordan Ibe
Is there a problem then with these young lads not wanting to go out on loan?
sonofabee
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Jordan Ibe
In fairness if he's on the verge of Liverpool first team why would he want to drop two divisions and move the other end of the country?
If his Dad knows nothing about it, it's quite strange news and unsurprised he laughed really.
Jordan Ibe
He is highly unlikely to be playing 1st team football for Liverpool in the near future. Maybe 1-2 sub appearances and a couple of cup starts before the end of the season at best. Similarly I can't see him going to a top Championship side fighting for promotion when he is yet to play much competitive football and is still so young. Surely regular 1st team football in a progressive side pushing for promotion to the Championship would be an good way to show his capabilities until the end of the season with a view to putting himself closer to the 1st team for next season or perhaps a top Championship side on loan? It is all about getting competitive game time; reserve football isn't quite the same these days. Lower leagues like League 1 are also excellent for developing strength in younger players as it is a physical league. The appearances would do no harm to his long-term career.
The comment from Kingston Bee said ' he thinks I am mad and just laughs. Dream on he says' - apologies if I have taken out of context but this sounds quite arrogant to me!
Kingston Bee
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Jordan Ibe
With all due respect you dont know him, hence I did not reply first time around. Ever since we signed the Liverpool youngster (cant remember his name) who only got 30 minutes game time I have been digging that Ibe joining Brentford on loan would be good for both parties. He explained the Wigan connection and said it was unlikely. Since then I joke with him that he will be joining us without him knowing, he then says dream on, its called banter. Nothing to do with arrogance.....I will have to be careful what I post in future....
sonofabee
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Jordan Ibe
You can't please all the people all the time, some people are upset we've acquired the services of a coach Man Utd offered a job this year!
Jordan Ibe
I did say 'apologies if I have taken out of context'. Obviously in this instance I had and so fair enough. Sometimes difficult to get across the tone of a quote on a forum and I wasn't sure of the background so shouldn't have commented as I did.
Manchester_Bee
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Jordan Ibe
Didn't this guy play for England under 21s?
Why would be come here, because he followed someone on Twitter? Surely not.
Can't see it happening, but would be nice if he did. I am sure they MW and MB have some quality names ready for January and we don't need the likes of another overhyped premiership youngster.
Why would be come here, because he followed someone on Twitter? Surely not.
Can't see it happening, but would be nice if he did. I am sure they MW and MB have some quality names ready for January and we don't need the likes of another overhyped premiership youngster.
Jordan Ibe
So painful reading some of this.
Some people Obviously still don't understand what's going on at the Club.
Why wouldn't he come to Brentford for 6 months.
a team 3rd in the league pushing for promotion sounds like a good move to me.
Trotta Jake Adam Kadeem Sav Tex all young & came from prem clubs.
Some people Obviously still don't understand what's going on at the Club.
Why wouldn't he come to Brentford for 6 months.
a team 3rd in the league pushing for promotion sounds like a good move to me.
Trotta Jake Adam Kadeem Sav Tex all young & came from prem clubs.
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ladbroke
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Jordan Ibe
We would be better served by getting a 20 something player with a proven track record than another youngster that will get pushed off the ball every other minute.
Manchester_Bee
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Jordan Ibe
Wiki says he played for under 20s, but it is wiki so could be wrong. Ibe hasn't played under 21s yet, so my error. However he has made under 19s appearances, and more so than Trotta did for his country during that time. Also England at that level are comparably at a higher standard than that of Italy. Hence my reasoning as to why I believe he won't come to us.
Jordan Ibe
Who is getting pushed off the ball every other minute ?? We dominate possession in most games.
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Manchester_Bee
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Jordan Ibe
Did you go the home game against Orient earlier this season? the last guy we had from Liverpool proved to largely ineffective because of that.
Jordan Ibe
Ok but you can't really judge a player after a 10 min substitute appearance.
& then apply that opinion to all possible future loans from Liverpool.
Manchester_Bee
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Jordan Ibe
It was 30+ minute appearance and I agree its not fair to judge based soley on that.
However, talent at premiership level =/= talent at league 1 level.
Jordan Ibe
I've seen Ibe in a few games for Liverpool's u-21 team. He's certainly fast, he's solidly built but he needs to work on when to keep the ball and when to pass it. A few clatterings from L1 defenders might assist him with that.
Jordan Ibe
It also depends on the referee and the protection they provide or don't. From what I recall the referee that evening was more than happy to let a lot of man handling go by without pulling Orient up and like any good team, they played up to what the ref would let them get away with. In recent years we have tried to put together a team of players with good technique, who play the ball on the ball on ground and on a relatively low budget, in terms of the English football leagues in general, this has been achieved, in part, by bringing in young and not physically fully developed players such as Forshaw, Saville, Harris, etc. and hence we are prone to having some of our younger players bullied by sides. From what I could see of Teixeira in his brief cameos, he looked a very good player and its a shame he wasn't given more chances, especially as our performances were stuttering at the time.
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