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wanderer paul
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he's applying the rules of the game maybe?
The referee can either blow his whistle to end the game prior to the corner being taken or just after it has been kicked. What would've pissed people off is if someone scored, (remember Brazil and CLive Thomas!)
He did ok today, IMO, maybe a penalty shout and a booking for the player who went through Newton, but he seemed fair to me.
We've had our fair share of dross too!!
The referee can either blow his whistle to end the game prior to the corner being taken or just after it has been kicked. What would've pissed people off is if someone scored, (remember Brazil and CLive Thomas!)
He did ok today, IMO, maybe a penalty shout and a booking for the player who went through Newton, but he seemed fair to me.
We've had our fair share of dross too!!
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being done before, In a World Cup match Brazil scored against Sweden when the English ref blew as he kicked the ball from the cornerref blew up in the middle of a cornerwhat is going on??
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Why do the Football League use GP as a testing ground for idiots?
It stopped being funny years ago, now it's just ridiculous.
They seem to be constantly trying to impress the assessor in the stand rather than just seeing what's happening on the pitch in front of their eyes & using common sense.
It stopped being funny years ago, now it's just ridiculous.
They seem to be constantly trying to impress the assessor in the stand rather than just seeing what's happening on the pitch in front of their eyes & using common sense.
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If he blew it before the corner was taken, fair enough but waiting for the ball to almost reach the head of our forwards is just asking for trouble & bound to provoke the supporters.
As I say all they need to do is use COMMON SENSE.
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Why has every ref we've had this season has been so sh*te. Like today the ref blew up in the middle of a corner
I was going to mention this, having heard it on Bees World.
Surely the incident that led up to the corner occured during the five minutes of stoppage/time wasting time so the result of the corner should be waited for before blowing for full time.
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He probably made fewer mistakes than most of the players but his stood out far more. He did seem to take his eye off the action on a couple of occasions that seemed fairly obvious e.g. MacDonald being tugged in the area, Bowditch being felled outside the box when he played advantage but didn't then find the player later, the challenge on Newton looked untidy at best when it happened and then the corner at the very end. Nobody else knew he'd whistled for the end of the game such was his lack of mastery of his own whistle. Never seen so many stewards approach a ref to escort him off.....a number with quite remarkable headgear!
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If that is the rule then fair enough but i've never seen it applied. Sometimes refs will signal a corner then blow up just before it's taken or wait til the ball has been cleared. What next, blowing full time the moment a player takes a penalty before it crosses the line?
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He blows the final whistle when time is up - whenever that is, whatever is happening - the problem seemed to be the ridiculous way he blew the whistle - rugby style three short blasts - which meant none of the players knew what was going on and were waiting for him to tell someone off for pushing which led to total confusion from both teams - same thing had happened at half time.
The way he handled the goalkeepers time wasting was shocking - he spent more time himself booking the bloke having been so slow to work out what was going on that he was in the worst position possible and had to run over half the pitch to speak to him having let the keeper kick it to the other end of the field before running over to him. I very much doubt the 90+ seconds he took booking him for time wasting were added in full to his five minutes injury time given how long Newton was down for along with their "serious injuries" - which sort of defeats the point of booking him.
Should have booked their physio too for entering the field of play without permission having told him quite theatrically to go round the pitch to treat the player behind thier goal. He'll lose marks with the assessor for that one.
Never mind at least he didnt award a goal for one of the shots that went wide.
The way he handled the goalkeepers time wasting was shocking - he spent more time himself booking the bloke having been so slow to work out what was going on that he was in the worst position possible and had to run over half the pitch to speak to him having let the keeper kick it to the other end of the field before running over to him. I very much doubt the 90+ seconds he took booking him for time wasting were added in full to his five minutes injury time given how long Newton was down for along with their "serious injuries" - which sort of defeats the point of booking him.
Should have booked their physio too for entering the field of play without permission having told him quite theatrically to go round the pitch to treat the player behind thier goal. He'll lose marks with the assessor for that one.
Never mind at least he didnt award a goal for one of the shots that went wide.
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Why has every ref we've had this season has been so sh*te. Like today the ref blew up in the middle of a corner
He didn't blow up in the middle. It was before that....it was as it left Woods boot! Pathetic, totally pathetic.
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It's all about common sense. Any ref that awards a corner and blows up as it is taken is really asking for trouble and that's why he made himself look ridiculous at the end. Please don't anyone say..when the time's up the time's up because it's that mentality that causes problems.
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I thought that the Ref today was very consistent - he was just as crap and appalling this afternoon as he was against Lincoln earlier this season.
Totally clueless.
Totally clueless.
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As said in another thread I firmly believe he bottled giving us a penalty for that stupid keeper's antics on Charlie, the keeper was 7 foot and still needed to push a wee man out of his space, I watched the ref and he didnt want to give a pen
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He seemed several seconds behind the action all game and seemed unable to give many decisions as they had literally passed him by.
Typical was a thown in for us (or so we thought) and we had actually thrown and moved the ball up the pitch before he brought the game back.
Others may disagree but I have long thought that you need more ex players to be referees (as happens in most other sports). He was a classic in someone who probably had never played the game at any level and really didn't understand how the game is actually played.
The physio running across the pitch was just Sunday League level.
My take on the ending was that he suddenly realised that he had gone over 5 minutes and panicked and just blew up with the ball in mid air over their goalmouth.
Typical was a thown in for us (or so we thought) and we had actually thrown and moved the ball up the pitch before he brought the game back.
Others may disagree but I have long thought that you need more ex players to be referees (as happens in most other sports). He was a classic in someone who probably had never played the game at any level and really didn't understand how the game is actually played.
The physio running across the pitch was just Sunday League level.
My take on the ending was that he suddenly realised that he had gone over 5 minutes and panicked and just blew up with the ball in mid air over their goalmouth.
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I think its the same incident as what Stanley said, but the throw in down by the Paddock. They wanted a sub, fair enough. KOC distracted the referee by asking him something, whilst we took our throw. We then took it forward 8-10 paces. I watched the referee at this point signal the 4th official, and then notice the game is in play. He then stopped the game to make the sub.
What he should have done was said next time it goes out. Even the 4th official should have been watching that and stepped aside when the throw in was taken. He gets a mark down for that too!
The referee was very poor today.
What he should have done was said next time it goes out. Even the 4th official should have been watching that and stepped aside when the throw in was taken. He gets a mark down for that too!
The referee was very poor today.
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I seem to recall us getting the ball in the net from a last minute corner at Norwich many years ago but the ref blowing his whistle in between the the ball landing in the area and entering the net. The goal did not stand.
Thought ref was useless yesterday - he failed to penalise thuggish Darlo centre backs early on and they continued to foul Macdonnald throughout the match.
It's the lack of consistency in refereeing decisions that really winds fans up. There's been plenty of that this season at GP.
Thought ref was useless yesterday - he failed to penalise thuggish Darlo centre backs early on and they continued to foul Macdonnald throughout the match.
It's the lack of consistency in refereeing decisions that really winds fans up. There's been plenty of that this season at GP.
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Just seen The Championship. At first thought saw Doherty sent off for Norwich even though Tyson wasnt running directly at goal - looked like defenders might have got back....ref got out the red card straight away, Guess who? Our young friend Mr Oliver 
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Yes, that was Jim Towers.
The ref claimed that he blew the whistle between Jim hitting the shot 18 yards from goal and the ball crossing the line.
George Sands (Middlesex Chron) reckoned he would have timed the game to 1/76th of a second to be that accurate!
Needless to say we lost 2-1, Norwich went up, we didn't, and the rest is history.
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Incidents that summed up yesterday's man:
He took the name of their No.14 for kicking the ball away (but didn't say anything about him and a couple of others querying the decision). Two minutes later the No.14 disputed another call, and ran to the ref wagging his forefinger in the official's face (according to the rules, a yellow card again) - and when the same player was walking round the touchline the ref watched him as he exchanged heated views with some fans in the Paddock(again at least a yellow card I believe). Apart from the initial caution - he did nothing about that particularly nasty piece of work.
He took the name of their No.14 for kicking the ball away (but didn't say anything about him and a couple of others querying the decision). Two minutes later the No.14 disputed another call, and ran to the ref wagging his forefinger in the official's face (according to the rules, a yellow card again) - and when the same player was walking round the touchline the ref watched him as he exchanged heated views with some fans in the Paddock(again at least a yellow card I believe). Apart from the initial caution - he did nothing about that particularly nasty piece of work.
malbee62
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The trouble is all these young refs are being fast tracked to the Premiership, whether they are any good or not as they are running out of top flight refs, We are the ones that are suffering for this idiotic idea.
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Aha...is that how they get them so inept in the PL as well then......
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Rod,
Didn't realise that you were also at the Norwich game when that happened, but I know you were at Oldham in our Championship season when Billy McAdams 'scored' from a corner at the end of the game & had it ruled out by the final whistle. Can't be many of us unlucky enough to see that happen twice!!
Didn't realise that you were also at the Norwich game when that happened, but I know you were at Oldham in our Championship season when Billy McAdams 'scored' from a corner at the end of the game & had it ruled out by the final whistle. Can't be many of us unlucky enough to see that happen twice!!
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Why is it the Linesmen have been renamed Referee's Assistant' but cant assist ??
I'm sure there are many Lineo's out there that would love to raise their flags for more than just offside's but aren't allowed to as the refs say " I make the decisions". how many time do you see a ref point to the lineo telling him which way to put his flag for a throw ?? And as for shirt pulling and climbing on from goal kicks....well the lineo has much better view at times, yet never puts his flag up.......Assistant's should be allowed to assist.
I'm sure there are many Lineo's out there that would love to raise their flags for more than just offside's but aren't allowed to as the refs say " I make the decisions". how many time do you see a ref point to the lineo telling him which way to put his flag for a throw ?? And as for shirt pulling and climbing on from goal kicks....well the lineo has much better view at times, yet never puts his flag up.......Assistant's should be allowed to assist.
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I regularly watch Greek League football here in Corfu and on Greek T.V.
My team, A.O.Kerkyra (Corfu to you) were in the Greek version of the premier league 2 seasons ago and the refereeing in that division was first class.
Now they are in the 2nd tier of Greek league football and the refereeing is shocking!
You think we get bad refs at GP you should see some of the farces i've seen this season over here.
I think alot of the fans' problems with refs lie in the fact that there have been many law changes over the last few years.
Most notably the offside law regarding when the lino should raise his flag.
I still hear people bemoaning the lino for a 'late' flag over here and at GP when they are now told to wait until the player actually recieves the ball or it is obvious that the pass was only intended for him.
As for blowing up in 'mid corner', now that is un-acceptable.
As a manager of Saturday and Sunday League teams i went on a short refereeing course or 2.
When people on here have said that when it's time up. it's time up regardless, then they are wrong.
Watch a decent Prem. League ref and he'll blow for time when the ball has gone out of play or when it leaves the goalies hands, eg; a goal kick or when the play is in midfield.
My team, A.O.Kerkyra (Corfu to you) were in the Greek version of the premier league 2 seasons ago and the refereeing in that division was first class.
Now they are in the 2nd tier of Greek league football and the refereeing is shocking!
You think we get bad refs at GP you should see some of the farces i've seen this season over here.
I think alot of the fans' problems with refs lie in the fact that there have been many law changes over the last few years.
Most notably the offside law regarding when the lino should raise his flag.
I still hear people bemoaning the lino for a 'late' flag over here and at GP when they are now told to wait until the player actually recieves the ball or it is obvious that the pass was only intended for him.
As for blowing up in 'mid corner', now that is un-acceptable.
As a manager of Saturday and Sunday League teams i went on a short refereeing course or 2.
When people on here have said that when it's time up. it's time up regardless, then they are wrong.
Watch a decent Prem. League ref and he'll blow for time when the ball has gone out of play or when it leaves the goalies hands, eg; a goal kick or when the play is in midfield.
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The majority of officials we get are shocking.
The linesmaen quite often (like the bald one last week) seem to only flag after teh ref has blown already.
I always thought they were there to help the ref with things he may not have seen but most of them it seems do the opposite and need the ref to help them
The linesmaen quite often (like the bald one last week) seem to only flag after teh ref has blown already.
I always thought they were there to help the ref with things he may not have seen but most of them it seems do the opposite and need the ref to help them