Martin Rowlands

[High Street Bee]

Teamtripe now has Martin linked with a £1.5m+ move to WBA

Cant actually find where they copied this story from so I guess they must be getting a bit creative?

Guess this falls into the same category as his 'definite' move to Leicester a few weeks back

 

[mhead bee]

I would take the money while we can before bos 2.
Martin has not been himself for ages and a move would do him good and give willow and folan a run out!

 

[Thorne In The Side]

Open The Box!!!!

 

[Bashbee]

On the Baggies site www.wba.co.uk Gary Megson says that yesterday they put in bids for threee players so I guess there could be some truth in this.

 

[The H]

Originally posted by Ricko:
Open The Box!!!!

*yells* TAKE THE MONEY!!!

 

[The voice of arrogance]

No, players like Rowlands make Brentford worth watching- we know what he's capable of and the form he will show again. Flogging our players of highest potential and replacing them with squad players eventually tells- eg replacing Forster with Rapley, not that Rapley was a poor player, but it detracts from the whole club. Now you talk of replacing Rowlands with Folan....
Obviously Rowlands will go eventually, but we can get a lot more out of him, and good money so long as he stays in contract.

 

[The H]

why will we??????

i don't see the clubs queueing for our players.


we have to sell, it makes sense.

 

[mhead bee]

before bosman 2 when he walks anyway.1.5 million covers rons annual investment therefore putting us in a position to buy new players again.

 

[FREEDO]

I agree with The voice of arrogance here. Players like Rowlands add an extra dimension to our game and, when on song, are a joy to watch. My housemate for example is an Aldershot Town supporter (they are the arch rivals of Martin's ex club Farnboro Town) and he used to rave about him before he joined the Bees.
What matters most is the long term effects of the proposed sale of Martin to WBA or whichever club it may be. If the Bees are seen to be a selling club once again then that will put the so-called fringe supporters that Ron is desperately trying to win back to the club. Also, it would make the Bees less attractive to watch which reinforces my point.
Finally, we hardly ever get any revenue from Sky TV for live games as it is. Therefore, the odd flash of brilliance during a live game (e.g. Tony Folan's lob from the halfway line against Cambridge two seasons back) might mean that Sky will show the Bees on TV more often which means we get more money and have to sell fewer players. Martin Rowlands may be lacking a bit of form of late but he's only a youngster and can only improve with experience. Plus, he can provide such a flash of brilliance so to speak.

 

[JonnoTheBee]

Rowlands is worth tones more as for 1 he's got a great song and to loose him would put the New Road out of business and silent!!

 

[Bigbee]

and the loop goes full circle and closes.If we had decent crowds Ron wouldnt have to sell.But we dont so he does but doesnt want to.Simple.Rowlands transfer or any other player at a significant profit fund Rons running of the club.Hopefully theyll be another Rowly out there,along with the Pinamontes,and some other gamble which dont work out.Please dont see BFC and Ron as a ' selling club',its a way of survival for all poorly supported clubs.

 

[High Street Bee]

If you visit Dave Lane over at Beesotted.com it would appear there may be substance to this story over and above the usual TL drivel.

Also WBA supporter boards are very aware of the possible deal.

 

[Andover Bee]

Take the money, trim the wage bill, keep the players on their toes, bring in more (hopeful) talent. Push for the playoffs.

 

[Edmundo]

I'd hate to see Martin go - absolutely hate it.

But if we can cover a whole season's losses and help reduce the overdraft by selling for £1.5 million a player that we bought for less than £50,000, I can't help feeling that we should do it. But as I say, I'd hate it.

 

[Luton Bee]

If i'm completely honest I'd sell him now if I were Ron. its' not that I don't think he'll get better, just that I think Bosman II will see us and other clubs getting peanuts in "scheduled" compensation for players like Rowlands.

 

[RodBee]

I agree that if we sell for £1.5M that would show a good return on the initial investment.
However, Farnboro' were wise enough to get a good sell-on clause written into the contract so we might be short by up to £375,000 - therefore only receiving £1,125,000. Does this sound just as attractive??

 

[Baggie bloke]

Hi there. Hope you don't mind me coming on here, but I thought I'd just check out these rumours. I first saw this story on the the TeamTripe site, and from what I've read about Martin he sounds like a very promising player, but I'm not sure about a couple of thing being right. Firstly, I'm not sure if Martin is the kind of guy we're looking for. We desperately need a left sided mindfielder, and Martin's not one of those is he? Secondly I don't think any bid made would be for £1.5M as this is the total sum available for transfers at the Albion, and we currently have bids in for 3 players.

 

[Bashbee]

Now on the official Baggies site www.wba.co.uk Megson dismisses talk they have made an offer for Rowlands. Seems they may have turned to Alan Rogers from Forest, and as he cost Forest 2 mill 3 years ago I would think Megson would use up all his budget (reportedly 1.5 mill) on just him.

 

[mhead bee]

Rowlands rowlands rowlands, we've got martin rowlands!!!

Baggies boy, left or right foted , up until a few months ago he was one of the best players in division with a premiership potential.Lost his way recently with the whole side to be fair, but even for 1.5 million it is a mega bargain.
Come on Martin....show us ya stuff on saturday..rotherham are pants!

 

[West Ealing Bee]

I know the story now seems to be a fabrication but i believe any bid in the region of £1.5m should be accepted. The finances of the club are the first and foremost importance and to write off a large chunk of the overdraft in one go can only be good news.

However Rowlands is a player that should definately not be sold on the cheap. He can't be allowed to walk, he is too good for that.

 

[Aussie Bee]

We all know that Martin is destined for bigger things and I say let him go and good luck to him - but I reckon 1.5 is a bit light actually. I would have thought 2 mill would be closer to the mark - well he is one of the best players in the division

 

[Jezybee]

Why sell Rowlands when there is a far to big squad in the first place. Why not get rid of the hangers on, cut the squad to 24-5 and with the money saved by doing this keep Rowlands. He's the best thing this club has at the moment. Remember what happened when we sold Herman (about 50 matches without a win).
KEEP ROWLANDS!!!!!

 

[Guildford Bee]

Originally posted by JonnoTheBee:
Rowlands is worth tones more as for 1 he's got a great song and to loose him would put the New Road out of business and silent!!

And this would make a difference how?

 

[finchbee]

Lads are we in Deram world ? Rowlands is quality and irregardless of the money we should not sell him to a 1st Div club. That is not progressing his career. We should only sell him to a Prem club. As for his value I think 1.5 is a fair figure we won't get much more for him. He is hardly setting div 2 alight. Having said that he is getting too much stick with regards to his attitude.

 

[Railway Side Bee]

Finchbee - If you agree on the valuation for Rowlands, isn't it up to him where he goes? I cannot see the benefit in accepting the need to sell a player at a given price, only to then stipulate to which club he moves. One exception might be a rival club (ie in the same division) but I cannot see how it would harm us or Rowlands to let him go to Blackburn, Watford, Fulham, Birmingham etc.
That's not to say I want to see him leave or that I agree in all cases with letting our best players go. Just fail to see your logic.

 

[FREEDO]

I saw on the Sky Sports Centre last night that West Brom's captain, midfielder Derek McInnes will be out for 9 months with a knee injury.

Maybe an approach for Martin will be imminent...

 

[German Bee]

Good news for us

What was that Pandora!!!

West Brom are hoping that the capture of Michael Appleton will be completed within the next twenty four hours.
The promotion chasers have agreed a fee of £750,000 with Preston North End for the 25-year-old midfielder and, if they can agree personal terms with Appleton at the Hawthorns today, he will make his debut against Sheffield United on Saturday.
Appleton is available on a free transfer during the summer when his contract with the Deepdale outfit comes to an end but Albion boss Gary Megson is desperate to get a proven midfield general into his line-up as soon as possible.
Megson, a long time fan of the former Manchester United star, has confirmed Albion have put in a substantial bid for a player - without naming names.
He said that they had decided to make the move because it was essential that fresh blood was added to the squad.

 

[Stanley]

If they offer over a million in the current climate..he's gone..whether we like it or not.With one or two other sales likely the debt could be well less than a million and we can start top breath again. Just hope Javary is up to replacing him

 

[Deano_YoungBee]

I say keep the boy for as long as possible, or hold out for more money. If the continual sale of players keeps growing i cannot see the Bees improving which is not good for the club.

 

[Mr Tree]

1) it's very inevitable that Martin will go in the summer, probably for £700000-850000, less than we value him, but in the current climate, a reasonable sum

2) no panic tho, he's clearly better than us, let him go, plus we have replacements in o'connor and willow

 

[North London Bee]

According to the Sunday Mirror Leicester will be making an offer of £300,000 for Rowlands this week.

Can't be correct as judging from recent precedents I am sure that Noades will offload him for less than half that sum !!!

 

[Bigbee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by North London Bee:
According to the Sunday Mirror Leicester will be making an offer of £300,000 for Rowlands this week.

Can't be correct as judging from recent precedents I am sure that Noades will offload him for less than half that sum !!!

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Dangerous second paragraph NLB !!

Lets hope this is paper talk,we're just picking our selves up after a torrid week,we dont need any more rumour mongering

 

[Stanley]

Observer has it that Leicester will be making a cut price deal, could just be paper talk.

 

[German Bee]

If Rowly goes for less than 600,000 pounds even considering the current situation with the transfer market then Noadesy wants his head tested.

 

[JonnoTheBee]

TeamTosh have obviously nicked this from the 'Sunday Mirror'.Sunday, January 21, 2001

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Rowlands linked to Leicester ^top


Bees star Martin Rowlands is being linked with a move to Premiership outfit Leicester City, and transfer talks could open as early as this week.
Foxes boss Peter Taylor is reportedly ready to table a £300,000 bid for the talented youngster, who is available along with all the other players on the club's books at present.
The Republic of Ireland Under 21 international has been one of Brentford's most consistent performers this season - but the Bees are sadly not in a financial position to be able to turn down any reasonable offers for their stars.

 

[Bigbee]

The Mirror actually say that Peter Taylor hope to begin talks with Martin this week.I presume you can not do this untill they have officially approache dthe club with an offer.Something must of been agreed already.What f***s me off is why we take the first offer now.Ok Bosman 2 comes in at the end of this season ? There must be many clubs looking at Martin.Lets do what Cambridge did to us over their strikers ( did we really make a bid ?)Hold a bloody auction,theres no hurry unless Rons agenda is causing him to sell NOW !

 

[Edmundo]

Typical Teamtosh! Whatever Martin is or is not, he is certainly not one of our most consistent preformers this season. In fact I would rate him as comfortably our most inconsistent performer this season.

 

[Isleworth Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Edmundo:
Typical Teamtosh! Whatever Martin is or is not, he is certainly not one of our most consistent preformers this season. In fact I would rate him as comfortably our most inconsistent performer this season. </font>

I'm sorry but that is absolute bollox

 

[The Mighty RENTROD]

In a normal world selling Rowlands for anything less than £750 000 would seem absurd,especially to a relatively wealthy premiership team like Leicester. However, these are not normal times and sadly you can imagine the lad jumping at the chance of some glamour/stability elsewhere. Compared to £150 000 for Scott/Quinn, around £300 000 looks about right for an occasional subs run out with Mr Benjamin etc. Getting rid of promising, or even more polished players (Taylor/Forster/Bent/Ashby etc), at knock down prices was a disease I thought had been cured with the selling of Herman for a decent price. It is strange that a supposedly astute businessman like Noades is appearing so desperate so sell, you would imagine he would keep his cards a little closer to his chest.I hope the Teamtoss story is the usual bull, but in the current icy Brentford climate £300 000 to Leicester sounds scarily believable.

 

[Jimbee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bigbee:

The Mirror actually say that Peter Taylor hope to begin talks with Martin this week.I presume you can not do this untill they have officially approache dthe club with an offer.Something must of been agreed already.What f***s me off is why we take the first offer now.Ok Bosman 2 comes in at the end of this season ? There must be many clubs looking at Martin.Lets do what Cambridge did to us over their strikers ( did we really make a bid ?)Hold a bloody auction,theres no hurry unless Rons agenda is causing him to sell NOW !</font>

Bigbee, why are you making assumptions again. This is what people have been doing for the last 6 days on this board only to find out that the press are spouting bollox. Now you read a story and assume that a deal has already been agreed - this could be equally as b***ocks. Calm down!

 

[Bigbee]

Jim.Im as calm as the next bloke to me in this ward.If you look back to my postings last week I was blindly optimistic with out any facts supporting my beliefs.All I said in repsonse to that an offer was going to be made was infact the article actually says ,Talyor is hoping to be in talks with Martin,which is different to making an offer for him.I hope hes not going ,but I expect he is.When you look at Prem clubs offering over a miilion for Crewe players,this stinks

 

[Streetboy]

I think we should take any money offered by leicster or west brom, before someone like oxford get a sniff and offer an even more laughable figure, at least he'll be playing at a level worhty of his talent.
interestingly, martin was in my mates year at drayton manor high school, and apparently couldnt even get in their first eleven, their best player in fact being craig ravenscroft's brother!

 

[GlasgowBee]

I believe that the new EU ruling only applies when transfers are across member states. Business within a member state can still have a fee attached to it. If this is the case then we can hang on to MR or ask for more dosh cos as anyone knows how many british players are abroad at the mo - at my last count I think Robbie Keane is back homw so thats none (and hes irish).

 

[Bigbee]

I suspect fowl play in the Rowlands bid,the fee seems poultry,chicken feed

 

['Ayes B]

The sale of Scotty and Quinn to Oxford probabaly wasn't the bargin that the fee suggeseted.

In order for Brentford to lower their wage bill they had to sell a couple of squad players. To sell anybody you need a buyer and the agreement of the players concerened.

I am sure that both Scotty and Quinn would not have left Brentford if Oxford offered the same wages. It is probably true to say that both Scotty and Quinn are on inflated salaries at Oxford and that at the end of the day any money taht we think we lost in the low transfer fees, Oxford will be spending on their wages.

In the cold light of day this makes good business sense. The money we received and our saving on wages = what the players were wrth, the money that Oxford paid in the transfer fee and the additional wages required to tempt the players away from GP means that they will end up spending just as much as if they bought the players for their true value.

If any of our players are moving forward in thier careers by joining a bigger club or a team currenty in a higher division then they would expect a better pay deal as a right and the money would not be their motivation for a move.

I therefore do not beleive that any club attempting toi buy one of our up and comming youngsters or a player who has not yet reached thier potential will get a bargain.

If Brentford agreed that Rowlands went to Leicester and the club couldn't agree the fee, I'm sure it would go to tribunial and we we would get nearer to our valuation.

 

[pandora]

Originally posted by 'Ayes B:
[B
In order for Brentford to lower their wage bill they had to sell a couple of squad players. To sell anybody you need a buyer and the agreement of the players concerened.

I am sure that both Scotty and Quinn would not have left Brentford if Oxford offered the same wages. It is probably true to say that both Scotty and Quinn are on inflated salaries at Oxford and that at the end of the day any money taht we think we lost in the low transfer fees, Oxford will be spending on their wages.

BUt both these players were first team regulars .with no obvious replacements in the club .Thus we will have to buy in to replace them (good fiscal sense)?

 

[mhead bee]

The whole purpose of selling players is to lower wage bill, you certainly don't lower it by buying replacements!!!
Your arguments and logic don't make sense pandora.
Ron has put players up for frees and nobody wants them, you can only sell players others want and these two were required elsewhere.
I would have prefered to have not bought some of the dross that is not good enough rather then sell the ones that are, but whats done is done and now we pay the consequences!

 

[pandora]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally .

BUt both these players were first team regulars .with no obvious replacements in the club .Thus we will have to buy in to replace them (good fiscal sense)?[/B]</font>

mhead bee
so you think that doesn't add up please explain .I mean we have to buy replacements right???With league exprience,and they we want at least a 3 year deal on this years wages not the deal that Scotty +Quinny were on signed over 2 years ago....so we do lose out...right???

 

[Chrisbee]

Rowlands to Birmingham this week apparantly!

 

[The H]

we already have the replacements.

Mark Mac and Lloydy and Darren Powell are back, are they not??