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I tell you what i must have watched a different game to some people on here because Smith was absolute rubbish yesterday. At fault for both goals, out of position numerous times in the first half and when will he learn to put a feckin tackle in when he is being run at? Every time he allows there winger to go past him or get a cross in. Crap. Rant over. Apart from that good performance second half and could have nicked it at the end but a point was a fair result i thought and could be crucial come the end of the season, bring on the Pool....
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Lets put things into perspective.
We've been on a poor run lately, what is it, one win out of five or something?
I can't give a proper opinion on how we are playing cos ive not seen a home league game this season, but ive seen about 7 of the away games.
Listening to Beesworld, hearing reports and what my old man says, we aren't playing well at the moment. Earlier on in the season e.g. away games at Hartlepool, Forest, Scunthorpe etc we looked a decent outfit. Apart from yesterday, the most recent game i watched was Doncaster away and we were truly awful. I have to say that by comparison, yesterday's performance was an improvement on that.
It was always going to be tricky, arguably they probably needed the win more than us, were at home, and had been on a good run of late, especially at home.
We came from behind twice, which takes real character. In fairness to Rotherham, they looked a decent side, much better than their position would suggest.
It seems apparent that we lack real quality up front and by comparison the bloke Shaw up front looked a quality player-making intelligent runs had a great first touch and to be honest is the sort of player we could really do with.
We occasionally got the ball down and passed it, mixed with a fair amount of long ball, and defended very well apart from their second goal where i thought we didn't pick Shaw up as he ran into the box. If we'd have been leading twice in the game and thrown the points, i would have been disappointed. games against teams down the bottom are never easy and even though i thought we'd win yesterday, you've got to look at it and think it's a point gained.
The results went our way again, there seems little point continually slating the players as they seem to be giving it their all.
Just get behind them, its far more effective in giving them confidence for the 4 remaining games.
We've been on a poor run lately, what is it, one win out of five or something?
I can't give a proper opinion on how we are playing cos ive not seen a home league game this season, but ive seen about 7 of the away games.
Listening to Beesworld, hearing reports and what my old man says, we aren't playing well at the moment. Earlier on in the season e.g. away games at Hartlepool, Forest, Scunthorpe etc we looked a decent outfit. Apart from yesterday, the most recent game i watched was Doncaster away and we were truly awful. I have to say that by comparison, yesterday's performance was an improvement on that.
It was always going to be tricky, arguably they probably needed the win more than us, were at home, and had been on a good run of late, especially at home.
We came from behind twice, which takes real character. In fairness to Rotherham, they looked a decent side, much better than their position would suggest.
It seems apparent that we lack real quality up front and by comparison the bloke Shaw up front looked a quality player-making intelligent runs had a great first touch and to be honest is the sort of player we could really do with.
We occasionally got the ball down and passed it, mixed with a fair amount of long ball, and defended very well apart from their second goal where i thought we didn't pick Shaw up as he ran into the box. If we'd have been leading twice in the game and thrown the points, i would have been disappointed. games against teams down the bottom are never easy and even though i thought we'd win yesterday, you've got to look at it and think it's a point gained.
The results went our way again, there seems little point continually slating the players as they seem to be giving it their all.
Just get behind them, its far more effective in giving them confidence for the 4 remaining games.
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Just seen all the goals on ITV. Smith well beaten in the air from a keeper's free kick, Bloke hooked it into the box, beating Sam and Mullin had a running jump which was always going to beat Frampton and his header was perfectly placed into the corner.
Owusu free header on 6 yeard line from outswinging Tabb corner - terrible marking.
TV shows Smith nowhere, sam dragged out onto the right flank, great cross, Shaw making late run leaving Newman(?) trailing and fine side foot finish - excellent goal from their perspective - crap from ours.
Long hoof headed clear to edge of box, Pratley passes ball sideways to Rankin who hooks it into the box and it drifts ove the keeper into far corner. Gayle MIGHT have been offside as he ran in but was nowhere near the flight of the ball. To be honest it looked like a cross - but who cares.
Sounds like a hard earned point.
If Smith IS injured what then?
- Tillen right back ?
- Mousinho right back?
- Lazarus-like recovery for Kevin?
What does everyone think?
Owusu free header on 6 yeard line from outswinging Tabb corner - terrible marking.
TV shows Smith nowhere, sam dragged out onto the right flank, great cross, Shaw making late run leaving Newman(?) trailing and fine side foot finish - excellent goal from their perspective - crap from ours.
Long hoof headed clear to edge of box, Pratley passes ball sideways to Rankin who hooks it into the box and it drifts ove the keeper into far corner. Gayle MIGHT have been offside as he ran in but was nowhere near the flight of the ball. To be honest it looked like a cross - but who cares.
Sounds like a hard earned point.
If Smith IS injured what then?
- Tillen right back ?
- Mousinho right back?
- Lazarus-like recovery for Kevin?
What does everyone think?
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Surely Tillen at right back, maybe the Smith injury could bee a blessing in disguise?
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I would go with the 2nd option and put Tillen at right back, even if Smith isn't injured
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yep, tillen at right back for me too - it worked really well against barnsley, didn't it? :scratch: which, coincidentally, would be the last time we've played well :sad:
pratley and smith did absolute bugger-all, until they combined to win the corner for the 1st... Buoyed by this success, Smith clearly forgot he was playing football, and stood around dazed as Rotherham attacked down the left to make it 2-1
miraculously, pratley went and got the assist for the second too
i'm not sure these contributions actually justify his non-performance for the rest of the game - the midfield looked terrible and that's why we struggled...
pratley and smith did absolute bugger-all, until they combined to win the corner for the 1st... Buoyed by this success, Smith clearly forgot he was playing football, and stood around dazed as Rotherham attacked down the left to make it 2-1
miraculously, pratley went and got the assist for the second too
i'm not sure these contributions actually justify his non-performance for the rest of the game - the midfield looked terrible and that's why we struggled...Steve G
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Too many passengers in the team. Worst:
Newman in midfield, wouldn't get in Reading's reserve team ... got to be Tabb and Pratley in the centre.
Smith at right back = like playing a back 3 as he is the invisible man most of the time. Tillen the better bet ?
Asking a lot for the likes of Turner, Frampton, Tabb to carry the above ...
Get rid of the dead wood and there was enough fight in the second half to think the Bees could keep second place.
Too many passengers in the team. Worst:
Newman in midfield, wouldn't get in Reading's reserve team ... got to be Tabb and Pratley in the centre.
Smith at right back = like playing a back 3 as he is the invisible man most of the time. Tillen the better bet ?
Asking a lot for the likes of Turner, Frampton, Tabb to carry the above ...
Get rid of the dead wood and there was enough fight in the second half to think the Bees could keep second place.
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mickh said:
There was 1 late in the second half wher he kicked it out to the left for a throw in!
Also what about the clearence when the ball was kicked back to him and he almost kicked straight into their striker infront of the goal!
Heart attack material
Owusu was the target and he worked his socks off to try to get the flick on that would open them up.It never came.
I thought that he did not make any real effort in contesting headers as he was beaten to about 98% of them which is a problem when we keep playing the ball in the air like yesterday!
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That was taken 30-40 seconds odd after we scored...I am on the right standing up after jumping around like a mad-man when we scored...but now nervously praying in the pic we don't re-concede quickly...
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Pratley was anonymous and did'nt put in a great deal of effort.We need Tabb to play centre midfield or just behind the front two-pure and simple.He is our most creative player and i feel he is wasted out wide.I though Owusu should also have scored in the first half and close range and the only header he won all game resulted in a goal.
On paper we have an easy run in but Blackpool,Swindon and Hartlepool are all playing for safety and won't lie down easily.With the way results are going though i think we are going to scrape it (just).
On paper we have an easy run in but Blackpool,Swindon and Hartlepool are all playing for safety and won't lie down easily.With the way results are going though i think we are going to scrape it (just).
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Good points - only one, we came back twice & possibly could have snatched it at the end.
We were outplayed in the 1st half, but imo the organisation - not for the first time was lacking. It seemed that the enforced 3rd & final substitution moving Tillen to RBack, Rankin on to the RWing & Tabb into the centre meant that there was at last some semblance of a pattern in our play. We had dominated the 2nd half but never looked really purposeful until that last substitution.
Nelson & Frampton were clearly the pick of the team - not least because they were clearly up for it throughout. In the last 15 minutes we suddenly started to play as though the game actually mattered & Rankin really put himself about -the trouble is that he, & others - needed to be doing this for 90 minutes, not 15. Tabb had a poor game - by his high standards - but was terrific in those last 15 minutes when he came inside.
At present we're not having a 'minor blip' - this is a sustained run of poor performances - & the confidence has drained away. Very worrying for the last 4 games & particularly at Swindon & Bmuff where we have done well in recent years.
A point about the ref who I didn't think had a good game - except for our 2nd goal! He missed half a dozen late tackles & to call Williamson over, point out that he had committed 4 fouls & not book him was bad enough. To then watch the same player blatantly time waste the taking of a corner, whilst pointing to his watch for what must have been 60 seconds was farcical.
That said I thought Williamson, Barker & Shaw were excellent for R'ham & couldn't believe that they took Shaw off - Butler was his usual pleasant self but caused us problems as ever.
We were outplayed in the 1st half, but imo the organisation - not for the first time was lacking. It seemed that the enforced 3rd & final substitution moving Tillen to RBack, Rankin on to the RWing & Tabb into the centre meant that there was at last some semblance of a pattern in our play. We had dominated the 2nd half but never looked really purposeful until that last substitution.
Nelson & Frampton were clearly the pick of the team - not least because they were clearly up for it throughout. In the last 15 minutes we suddenly started to play as though the game actually mattered & Rankin really put himself about -the trouble is that he, & others - needed to be doing this for 90 minutes, not 15. Tabb had a poor game - by his high standards - but was terrific in those last 15 minutes when he came inside.
At present we're not having a 'minor blip' - this is a sustained run of poor performances - & the confidence has drained away. Very worrying for the last 4 games & particularly at Swindon & Bmuff where we have done well in recent years.
A point about the ref who I didn't think had a good game - except for our 2nd goal! He missed half a dozen late tackles & to call Williamson over, point out that he had committed 4 fouls & not book him was bad enough. To then watch the same player blatantly time waste the taking of a corner, whilst pointing to his watch for what must have been 60 seconds was farcical.
That said I thought Williamson, Barker & Shaw were excellent for R'ham & couldn't believe that they took Shaw off - Butler was his usual pleasant self but caused us problems as ever.
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Steve G said:
Going from what MA's posted on the O/S ,he agrees with a lot of these reports .Looks as if the finishing team will start tomorrow ,see yas there
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nocoat said:I have a vague idea who he is talking about ...think it was Phophet and his mob
none were wearing any coats either, which one was you??
as for that young kid talking about his kids and how amazing they are....well....
another postie too.........
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The Prophet said:
Very quiet following and the stewards sain 723 at HT or something like that.
2-1 down and with time running out Mr. Nelson turns to us and appeals for more noise and did anyone hear the fella shout " Well give us something to fecking shout about then?"
Ghostly quiet at times, a felling of nerves and anger.
PMA now though and we shall win tomorrow.
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NorthamptonBee said:
i said it once but i was on the far right of the stand, so doubt it was me you heard, but with my mouth people normally do !
its true though, you can support them to a point but the supporters need something back from the players like a bit of effort or trying to string together 3 passes before the other side gets the bloody ball back, especially when we seem to give it back after two passes !!!
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wanderer paul said:
I agree by the way and not having a pop.
Fair play to the bloke, I'm normally a bit lively with the old noise but not yesterday but tomorrow BR standing for a change to lose my voice.
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I do recall Lloyd winning a header in the first half..from a throw in...and he had 3 men marking him...lol ..work that one out....YOU REDS....
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Another nervous performance.
The midfield was very poor. I though Tabb was slightly petulant in the first half with a 'why am I out here on the left' attitude, could have attacked a very dodgy right back. But when he moved inside he was our main man again so I guess his point was proved.
The other three weren't great, it would not surprise me if Lewis and Tabb were in the centre tomorrow.
Owusu and Rankin worked hard and we defended reasonably against a decent front pair, but we went to sleep and got punished.
Somehow we are still in pole position, as every game goes by it looks more and more as if it will be our year but all the other teams must be thinking the same.
Big day ahead tomorrow, it's time for the team who wants second to stand up and take it. I pray it's us.
The midfield was very poor. I though Tabb was slightly petulant in the first half with a 'why am I out here on the left' attitude, could have attacked a very dodgy right back. But when he moved inside he was our main man again so I guess his point was proved.
The other three weren't great, it would not surprise me if Lewis and Tabb were in the centre tomorrow.
Owusu and Rankin worked hard and we defended reasonably against a decent front pair, but we went to sleep and got punished.
Somehow we are still in pole position, as every game goes by it looks more and more as if it will be our year but all the other teams must be thinking the same.
Big day ahead tomorrow, it's time for the team who wants second to stand up and take it. I pray it's us.
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nocoat said:I have a vague idea who he is talking about ...think it was Phophet and his mob
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Brentford Bob said:This happened.........
....you got some light relief from THAT!........
(so why is your tag 'wishing I was lucky'?)
