Matthew Benham

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

But Gibson will never get money out of it. He's spent close on £500m during his time there

Exactly.

 

[hatfieldbee]

Do you really, honestly believe that clubs at this level make money ?? Do you think Steve Gibson at Middlesbrough is making money out of them ? MB is a FAN and has invested enormous sums of money to progress the club. You think he's doing this to make money ? You're crazy.

I'd suspect that Gibson is probably a fan as well.

 

[gbems92]

In June 2014, Middlesbrough reported revenues for that year of £12.8m. They had a wage bill of £14.4m and still made a pre-tax loss of £20m. Do you have any idea walsall bee how far removed from our revenues and wage bill that Middlesbrough's is ? Miles, literally miles.

Hence why they can afford 10 million pound strikers and multiple players on 30k+ we can only dream of. Even brighton are paying the likes of sidwell , zamora , knockheart 20k+. People need to realise financially there are 7 or 8 possibly more teams in a different league to us

 

[wanderer paul]

But Gibson will never get money out of it. He's spent clearly we on £500m during his time there

Most of that is through his business group, including Bulkhaul Ltd, and he is allowed to put more in because Middlesbrough's revenues from home games, and other revenues, are more likely to be 3 times what Brentford can generate at GP.

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

I'd suspect that Gibson is probably a fan as well.

He is. Huge Boro fan.

 

[hatfieldbee]

He is. Huge Boro fan.

In some ways, then, they've got a similar set up to us. 'Rich fan wants to see his football do well, not just survive'.

 

[Doovster]

I bet Gibson doesn't get the sh1t that MB gets either. I always get the impression the Boro fans love him like a god.

I really wouldn't blame MB sometimes if he did think, fck this, I've got better things to do with my life!!

 

[walsall bee]

Thanks for explaining that fellas

 

[wanderer paul]

In some ways, then, they've got a similar set up to us. 'Rich fan wants to see his football do well, not just survive'.

In a way, yes. But their income is three times, or more, of what Brentford's is.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

I bet Gibson doesn't get the sh1t that MB gets either. I always get the impression the Boro fans love him like a god.

I really wouldn't blame MB sometimes if he did think, fck this, I've got better things to do with my life!!

It's unreal, I can actually see him turning it in, 2 or so weeks ago I was at Preston having a blinding day out, united fans and team and the very next loss all the clowns come out and have a pop, we lost a game, we lost a game badly but the game isn't over until we keep telling MB and co to feck off and they decide to listen to our pleas. Fecking unreal!

 

[Gee Bee]

In a way, yes. But their income is three times, or more, of what Brentford's is.

But the original purchase they were skint and in huge problems In an old ground so not to disimilar

 

[Easter 1959]

MB is probably putting in circa £10m a season just to be competitive. Brentford haven't really a hope in hell in competing with the bigger clubs in this Division, not even Reading!

Which is why I find it difficult to understand that, despite it being explained repeatedly, people still 'criticise' in such a dismissive, close to being contemptuous, way that can seem calculated to offend.

Operate in a subtely different way, try to exploit market weaknesses, identify players who might be intrinsically better than their bare performances within a team seems on the surface, make a turn by progressive development (Gray, Dallas, Moses, Tarkoffski) and treat people right (Hogan, Sammy, Jota); can these guys suggest, other than finding Middlesborough style dosh themselves, a better way to keep an unlevel playing field as level as possible.

 

[gbems92]

It's unreal, I can actually see him turning it in, 2 or so weeks ago I was at Preston having a blinding day out, united fans and team and the very next loss all the clowns come out and have a pop, we lost a game, we lost a game badly but the game isn't over until we keep telling MB and co to feck off and they decide to listen to our please. Fecking unreal!

Everyone says benham is bigger than being upset by people on twittwr or what fans think and has the balls to deal with the abuse but if i was him i would seriously question whether it was worth the hassle. Brentford need him more than he needs us. Yes he supports brentford and has an emotional connection aswell as financial and business but doea he really need to devote time ans money to ungrateful people who givw him stick and call for his head. The gutless performance yestetday from the decent players we have was the problem , not benhams

 

[hatfieldbee]

Which is why I find it difficult to understand that, despite it being explained repeatedly, people still 'criticise' in such a dismissive, close to being contemptuous, way that can seem calculated to offend.

Operate in a subtely different way, try to exploit market weaknesses, identify players who might be intrinsically better than their bare performances within a team seems on the surface, make a turn by progressive development (Gray, Dallas, Moses, Tarkoffski) and treat people right (Hogan, Sammy, Jota); can these guys suggest, other than finding Middlesborough style dosh themselves, a better way to keep an unlevel playing field as level as possible.

Despite his best efforts, not sure Walsall did!

 

[Doovster]

Everyone says benham is bigger than being upset by people on twittwr or what fans think and has the balls to deal with the abuse but if i was him i would seriously question whether it was worth the hassle. Brentford need him more than he needs us. Yes he supports brentford and has an emotional connection aswell as financial and business but doea he really need to devote time ans money to ungrateful people who givw him stick and call for his head. The gutless performance yestetday from the decent players we have was the problem , not benhams

Exactly. How can these pr1cks on Twitter etc think the club would be better off without Benham?!

I hated last night's performance and thought it was pretty gutless but I'm not so thick, nor such an ungrateful **** to then turn my frustration on MB.

 

[barry]

As far as I'm concerned, he is the special one...

 

[Houghton Bee]

Exactly. How can these pr1cks on Twitter etc think the club would be better off without Benham?!

I hated last night's performance and thought it was pretty gutless but I'm not so thick, nor such an ungrateful **** to then turn my frustration on MB.

Probably think 'there will always be someone else' to come in, like all those rich benefactors we've had previously with the clubs best interests at heart lol lol

The fans will **** this up far quicker than any manager/player/DOF/owner will

 

[walsall bee]

Probably think 'there will always be someone else' to come in, like all those rich benefactors we've had previously with the clubs best interests at heart lol lol

The fans will **** this up far quicker than any manager/player/DOF/owner will

I agree... We should all admire the way we play and want to progress ! The way players are bought in. Let's hope we can re build in the summer and perform somewhere close to what we did last season ??

 

[Pauly Paul]

We have to fill a new 20k stadium so the style of play MB has insisted upon is key to our future success both on and off the pitch.

 

[MattyBee]

If MB walks, we are in serious trouble.

 

[Frothybaby]

You hope that MB would hear the many over the few, but a compliment isn't outweighed by an insult unfortunately.

 

[brooks]

If MB walks, we are in serious trouble.

A handful of idiots say stupid things on here and on twitterthing. Most people don't. Benham is a fan which means he knows what daft things some people say about the club, the manager and so on. He has bigger things to think about. The best thing to do is ignore the idiots otherwise, like the Kardashian woman and that Katy Pipkin, they just keep turning up because any attention validates their stupidity.

 

[MattyBee]

A handful of idiots say stupid things on here and on twitterthing. Most people don't. Benham is a fan which means he knows what daft things some people say about the club, the manager and so on. He has bigger things to think about. The best thing to do is ignore the idiots otherwise, like the Kardashian woman and that Katy Pipkin, they just keep turning up because any attention validates their stupidity.

Well said.

 

[cromerbee]

I love MB. End of. Without him there is no future for the club. Despite hating last night traveling home with Albion fans, the last three years have been great. I love the club being in the Championship. We are so overachieving just to be there . If people can't see that they should go and support someone else or watch non-league. That's where we would go without him- IMO obviously. You Beeeeessss!!!

 

[sonofabee]

If MB walks, we are in serious trouble.

Sadly I think it might be terminal if MB walked.

 

[Bill Benn]

Sadly I think it might be terminal if MB walked.

Not for everyone it won't be,some people out there will feel important again as we spiral down the leagues.

 

[readingbee]

Sadly I think it might be terminal if MB walked.

I'd be so bold to say it would be Terminal. But it ain't going to happen.

 

[Brentford Bob]

It's unreal, I can actually see him turning it in,!

If MB walks, we are in serious trouble.

Sadly I think it might be terminal if MB walked.

Bloody hell....why are we even discussing this? The last few pages of this thread have made me feel a bit sick, to be honest.

 

[JTofBFC]

Biggest threat to the future of Brentfird FC is Brentford fans themselves. Be careful what you wish for. Or if you can't take a defeat without going into meltdown preferably **** off somewhere else.

 

[WarrenBee]

We are in The Championship FFS, we lost a game, and yes we didn't play well. But give me Championship Football week in week out rather than the dross most of us have put up with for the past any day of the week! As JT says, be careful what you wish for!

 

[Kettering Bee]

Biggest threat to the future of Brentfird FC is Brentford fans themselves. Be careful what you wish for. Or if you can't take a defeat without going into meltdown preferably **** off somewhere else.

A very good post, in my opinion.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Bloody hell....why are we even discussing this? The last few pages of this thread have made me feel a bit sick, to be honest.

In what way, sick that it's being discussed or sick at the thought of it?

 

[PJ]

Cause somebody mentioned he had a billion quid! We would pay better wages and buy proven players if this was the case.. And also we would get a lot more money from goin up than selling

You do realise that we need 20,000 gates to break even on current income/outgoings levels? I think that's the figure i read, might have been 21000 actually.
Our ground holds 12,300. Who do you think bridges that gap?

 

[stevil]

It's unreal, I can actually see him turning it in

This makes me feel very worried...

 

[readingbee]

It's unreal, I can actually see him turning it in, 2 or so weeks ago I was at Preston having a blinding day out, united fans and team and the very next loss all the clowns come out and have a pop, we lost a game, we lost a game badly but the game isn't over until we keep telling MB and co to feck off and they decide to listen to our pleas. Fecking unreal!

I hadn't seen this post NB. Now I am really worried.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

This makes me feel very worried...

Only my opinion, shuts down social media, loses a game and this reaction yesterday, when your passion becomes a drag, what do you do? I hope he has big balls, he needs them.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

I hadn't seen this post NB. Now I am really worried.

You shouldn't be, I just can't believe we have people asking for him to feck off, taking the piss out of their own club and saying that they warned us all, we're fecking 10th or whatever in the championship, it should be a brilliant time.

 

[HerefordB]

It's hard to see how MB can get ever get his investment back and even harder if he were to cease his financial support for the club
So for that reason he will probably persevere, despite the ridiculous abuse he and his family seem to attract from some of the morons who inhabit social media.
However, if LR for any reason, doesn't happen, then the club will become unviable as a business. Under those circumstance he would certainly review his options.

 

[stevil]

Only my opinion, shuts down social media, loses a game and this reaction yesterday, when your passion becomes a drag, what do you do? I hope he has big balls, he needs them.

I hope so too. All the bollox is just heartbreaking. We're living the dream - why can't some people just be happy with that?

 

[Kettering Bee]

This makes me feel very worried...

I imagine he's sick and tired of the persistent undermining questioning of everything he does for us and the sustained childish abuse from certain users of social media. Well at least they'll be happy if he does call it a day.

 

[Bee68]

The only ones who have a problem are the the extra 5000 that have been coming along since the arse end of roslers era
me personly loving the the highs and lows of being in the championship long may it continue

 

[wanderer paul]

In what way, sick that it's being discussed or sick at the thought of it?

Both!!

Stop scaremongering. Put your keyboard away! :mad2:

 

[stevil]

I imagine he's sick and tired of the persistent undermining questioning of everything he does for us and the sustained childish abuse from certain users of social media. Well at least they'll be happy if he does call it a day.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was sick and tired of all the ****. No-one could blame him. It's just so sad...

 

[mhead bee]

I had a couple of pints in the Kings Arms Harefield lunchtime today. Sat in the village bar and 4 old codgers were having a football conversation very loudly as they were all sat at different tables. The conversation turned to QPR and how JFH was doing. I joined in and let my affiliation be known. Immediate response was why did your owner sack your best manager for years! By the time I left they had a much better idea of the circumstances of his departure. But their previous view was mostly made up by talksport.

Oh FFS, it drives you nuts doesn't it.

A friend of mine who supports Glasgow Rangers watched the game and put a message on face book saying why did Brentford sack their manager, oh well, worked out well for us. I spent 10 minutes writing a long reply.

 

[PJ]

We are in The Championship FFS, we lost a game, and yes we didn't play well. But give me Championship Football week in week out rather than the dross most of us have put up with for the past any day of the week! As JT says, be careful what you wish for!

Read a couple of pages of the updates thread when i got back from Brighton and wondered if i was on the right forum!

We're 10th in the Champ with a very young team which, by and large, consistently entertain us like never before. Brighton did a number on us but i'd love to see an accurate comparison re income/budgets etc

We are hardly a club in crisis. Don't understand why a few of our fans seem almost determined to not enjoy these great times. Just don't get it

 

[mhead bee]

It's hard to see how MB can get ever get his investment back and even harder if he were to cease his financial support for the club
So for that reason he will probably persevere, despite the ridiculous abuse he and his family seem to attract from some of the morons who inhabit social media.
However, if LR for any reason, doesn't happen, then the club will become unviable as a business. Under those circumstance he would certainly review his options.

I thought the whole deal included a sensible exit strategy when he bought the club. The club had to protect themselves and make sure they didn't disappear over night like Pompey did if he left or God forbid worse happened to him.

He will never get his 100 odd million back whatever happens.

However If it was me I wouldn't be able to walk away because half our fans are thick *****, I would have gone years ago if that was the case and I am sure he is the same.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Both!!

Stop scaremongering. Put your keyboard away! :mad2:

I think you're right.

Just before I go, did Noades get this sort of sh*t, did Butcher get the GPG moaning as much?

 

[kendo]

Made the mistake of looking at Matthews facebook page.

Jesus some of the ***** posted on there,I despair of some of our supporters. Classics like " get yer checkbook out"!! And innit for the money!!

Kill me now..

 

[Bill Benn]

Both!!

Stop scaremongering. Put your keyboard away! :mad2:

Is that you Bob ?

 

[tipsey]

Its the same with most clubs win a game alls well lose a game all hell breaks lose im sure Mathews looked at other clubs forams after a few defeats