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May I suggest that this witty reference be withdrawn from the bottom of the page.

This is discriminatory against people with mental health problems.
 

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................bolts extra.....................
 

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That's a cognitive ability test to you, brainstorm is not allowed :nono:
 

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1 in 4 people in the UK will suffer some form of mental health problem in their lifetime, this may be something mild like anxiety or more severe and permanent like schizophrenia, however one thing that is common is that because the british public continue to laugh at such conditions this stops people from accessing care and treatment.

If you are unfortunate enough to suffer one day and feel shy about talking about it, now is the best time to ask why so you can make a difference before it matters to you.

If the rider made comical reference to cancer would it matter, if it made reference to someones race would it matter?!

I shall now get off my high horse... lol
 

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Sorry, I think this is one step too far. While I'm against any form of discrimination, I think that any change would be too defensive. I don't believe that any of those who suffer from mental health problems would find it in any way discriminatory. Of course, and I'm serious here, if you're among those who currently suffer from such problems, I'm entirely wrong and I apologise.

Some might say - and I'm not one of those who's bothered by it - that 'British public' could be discrminatory since it excludes those who have chosen not to take out citizenship.

Equally, is not the word 'problems' disparaging to those who you describe?

Finally, should the word 'jockstrap' (and here I would point out that despite my location and surname that I am as Scottish as they come) be abandoned since it implies that Scots people are b*llocks?
 

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By using the term "warning" it subtley reinforces a stereotype that people with mental health problems are either useless or violent, that they are different and should be treated as "them" instead of "us".

Now it is true some people with mental health problems are dangerous and bone-idle, but then there are so many out there without a mental health problem who are also useless or violent. I would rather work on an admission ward in a psychiatric hospital than go for a night out in Glasgow, I know which one has higher potential for a fisticuffs

There is an interesting book by a chap who goes by the name of Goffman about the stigma and discrimination society puts on those who experince a mental illness. I too have published papers on the matter and sit on a Citywide Partnership here in Glasgow between City Council, NHS and other agencies looking at defeating the stigma against mental illness and mental health problems. I have also been a CPN in Govan and the Gorbals for many years and despite my name and location I am as Hounslow as they come.

oh sh*t i got on the high horse again
 

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i don't find it offensive. :imwith:
 

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i don't find it offensive. :imwith:

A highly offensive smilie. Change it at once. <g>



Seriously, going back to GlasgowBee, I think that there are occasions when 'nuts' is offensive, as was the case in 2002 when there was a fire in a 'mental hospital' and a US paper ran the headline Roasted Nuts (genuinely), or in the ongoing cases NAMI raises against the NY Times and its offensive crossword clues.

I am aware of the book you refer to; against that, I think there are two other points to be made.

First, the mental health industry itself frequently uses the phrase itself tongue in cheek - for example, there is an information site 'Mixed Nuts'. I know that, for example, sectors of society use terms to describe themselves that they would take offence to were they used by 'outsiders'; I might refer to myself as a Jock but would be cross if someone else I didn't know used the phrase about me; but the prevalence of these sort of sites suggest that although some may be offended, the majority wouldn't be.

Second, the phrase 'nuts' has. according to all the dictionaries I've been able to consult, two distinct meanings; 'crazy' (sic), and 'highly enthusiastic'; nor do any of them have the usual disclaimer that this word is potentially offensive. I can't see that a visitor to the site would genuinely believe that 'nuts' on the GPG was meant to imply that many of the people on the site were genuinely ones who had mental health issues.

It's a tricky one, I agree, in part because although a number of my family members have suffered from mental issues, I haven't, so I'm not speaking from a subjective point of view.

However, don't worry about being on a high horse; it's a valid point to 'stirrup'.
 

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I fully agree with you Glasgow Bee and I will have it changed immediately. :yes: Or at least within a few weeks as there's a special tool we need to unscrew that bit, it's a little bit different to the normal one and to be honest we've got nobody qualified to use it so we'll have to send Wee Dave on a training course, health and safety i'm afraid, and I think that's only held once every 6 months. Course :shrug: we'll have to put something else there as otherwise it leaks when it's windy. I think technically it'll still have to be discriminatory to a disadvantaged social group as that's regulation for category C messageboards which we are on account of the tonnage by thread. We'll put together a focus group to start working on it, I'm suggesting muslims with cerebral palsy. :yes: All in, it might take a while :shrug: but rest assured my orders have gone out to the GPG team today. :sorted:
 

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:imwith: :D I see you are well versed in the ways of the NHS...

...just a shame you are the same about the general public...:D
 

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I think we should get Gene in to deal with this...once he's finished kicking in nonces of course!! lol lol lol
 
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