Middlesex CCC 2023

Middlesex CCC 2023

With Lancs piling on the runs, looks like a draw is inevitable at Canterbury. All in Middx hands now.
 

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Middx have Notts now 4 down with 72 to get. Getting interesting ......
 

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Middx take 6th wkt....
 

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Do Middlesex stay up if the match is tied?
 

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8 points for a tie...
How many 1st innings bonus points did Middx get?
 

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CTBee said:
Commentary reckons no, only the side batting second gets extra points for a tie apparently
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Sorry, just to clarify this. If the scores are level and Notts have wickets left but run out of overs then Middlesex are down. If the scores are level and Middlesex bowl Notts out then they stay up
 

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CTBee said:
Sorry, just to clarify this. If the scores are level and Notts have wickets left but run out of overs then Middlesex are down. If the scores are level and Middlesex bowl Notts out then they stay up
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Yes, one is a draw, the other is a tie.
 

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9 overs left.....
7 down....
16 required....
?
 

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Scores level.....
?
 

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It’s over. Middlesex relegated.

Didn’t like the Premier League anyway.

Much prefer a Tuesday night away at Stoke.
 

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Phew…great final day…hard luck to Middlesex.
 

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Travel Tavern Bee said:
Close but not happening , Like in most sports teams who are relegated only have themselves to blame I’m afraid .
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Sadly true.

Also teams that get relegated normally deserve to get relegated.
 

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Are they saying its too expensive to build a marquee at an out ground then
Temporary seating ?
 

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Judio1999 said:
Are they saying its too expensive to build a marquee at an out ground then
Temporary seating ?
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It's probably more about temporary seating? (edit - as you say in your secund line).

Too expensive to build and use three times but fine to build and use once, it seems.
 

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Jay Bee said:
It's probably more about temporary seating? (edit - as you say in your secund line).

Too expensive to build and use three times but fine to build and use once, it seems.
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Sounds like Radlett are less receptive to Middlesex's whims than previously.
One marquee, two smaller gazeboes, and 400 fold up seats and Uxbridge would be equipped but obviously out of favour
 

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I assume Lords is still restricted by the local residents with a maximum number of days the lights can be used in one summer ??
 
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Judio1999 said:
I assume Lords is till restricted by the local residents with a maximum number of days the lights can be used in one summer ??
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Access to Lord's is increasingly restricted by ever more international cricket, MCC matches and The Hundred (not my cup of tea btw). The situation is far from ideal and although MCCC do try and make the membership attractive with discounts, free guest passes, etc. as @GP200 indicates, the benefits of membership are severely diluted while we don't have our own home ground (or more access to Lord's).
 

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8corner said:
Access to Lord's is increasingly restricted by ever more international cricket, MCC matches and The Hundred (not my cup of tea btw). The situation is far from ideal and although MCCC do try and make the membership attractive with discounts, free guest passes, etc. as @GP200 indicates, the benefits of membership are severely diluted while we don't have our own home ground (or more access to Lord's).
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Maybe time to leave Lord's and build a base at one of the out grounds, Uxbridge say.
 

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wadbee said:
Sounds like Radlett are less receptive to Middlesex's whims than previously.
One marquee, two smaller gazeboes, and 400 fold up seats and Uxbridge would be equipped but obviously out of favour
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If Uxbridge is even smaller they probably think it will also not make money / not make enough money compared to this idea, and not serve the interests of members. They can argue that a stadium in Essex with thousands of seats is looking out for lots of members who can all attend the fixture even if it is in the wrong place.

What happened to playing in Southgate? Sky used to televise games there before Lord's had floodlights. Seems to have been out of favour for a decade now.
8corner said:
Access to Lord's is increasingly restricted by ever more international cricket, MCC matches and The Hundred (not my cup of tea btw). The situation is far from ideal and although MCCC do try and make the membership attractive with discounts, free guest passes, etc. as @GP200 indicates, the benefits of membership are severely diluted while we don't have our own home ground (or more access to Lord's).
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I think it's also supposedly about not upsetting the local residents especially with busy evening games and all that noise and music.
What annoys me about this is the double standards over the number of games.
When T20 Cup / T20 Blast was the biggest show in domestic cricket each summer, the MCC only allowed 4 Middlesex games at Lord's. Even home quarter finals have had to be played elsewhere.

Now the Hundred is around they can play another 4 London Spirit games there, and the final, and Middlesex are still restricted to four games.
Was it really impossible to play more than 4 games there in the first place, given that there are now nine games there across both competitions?
 

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Jay Bee said:
If Uxbridge is even smaller they probably think it will also not make money / not make enough money compared to this idea, and not serve the interests of members. They can argue that a stadium in Essex with thousands of seats is looking out for lots of members who can all attend the fixture even if it is in the wrong place.

What happened to playing in Southgate? Sky used to televise games there before Lord's had floodlights. Seems to have been out of favour for a decade now.

I think it's also supposedly about not upsetting the local residents especially with busy evening games and all that noise and music.
What annoys me about this is the double standards over the number of games.
When T20 Cup / T20 Blast was the biggest show in domestic cricket each summer, the MCC only allowed 4 Middlesex games at Lord's. Even home quarter finals have had to be played elsewhere.

Now the Hundred is around they can play another 4 London Spirit games there, and the final, and Middlesex are still restricted to four games.
Was it really impossible to play more than 4 games there in the first place, given that there are now nine games there across both competitions?
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Uxbridge is bigger than Radlett and Southgate in terms of space for spectators. Middlesex CCC have shown little commitment to them and most of their
out grounds in recent years, little continuity until Radlett (Hertfordshire) was nominated as Middx's home away from Lords, and maybe they have now reached saturation point. Richmond (Surrey) and Merchant Taylors (right on the borderline with Hertfordshire) have been recently involved
but are now being seen as too costly to set up for the occasional T20 match. Add in Middx CCC using the Oval for T20 matches and now Chelmsford, and perhaps a name change to Middlesex Wanderers maybe more appropriate for the 2024 season. It is unlikely to do much for Middx finances however !
 

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wadbee said:
Uxbridge is bigger than Radlett and Southgate in terms of space for spectators. Middlesex CCC have shown little commitment to them and most of their
out grounds in recent years, little continuity until Radlett (Hertfordshire) was nominated as Middx's home away from Lords, and maybe they have now reached saturation point. Richmond (Surrey) and Merchant Taylors (right on the borderline with Hertfordshire) have been recently involved
but are now being seen as too costly to set up for the occasional T20 match. Add in Middx CCC using the Oval for T20 matches and now Chelmsford, and perhaps a name change to Middlesex Wanderers maybe more appropriate for the 2024 season. It is unlikely to do much for Middx finances however !
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I was a Middlesex member in 2021 and 2022 (got a freebie guest membership in 2021 as my friend was a member through the Covid season) and I recall them praising Radlett for handling Covid games well, whilst in the same breath saying yes Radlett was going to be the main/ only T20 out ground for the foreseeable future.

At the risk of starting a riot, my girlfriend and I gave up after 2022 to become members over the river. We were mainly members for the Blast games but we figured seven T20 games 20 mins from our front door in South London was preferable to four games an hour away... and three more very distant out-ground games. Apologies to the county of my birth. Nothing partisan about it, we are pretty half arsed supporters and declare no allegiance to either team when we watch these games. My friends who'd been Middlesex members for a decade also just joined to watch cricket due to living in north London having grown up in Manchester/West Midlands. I imagine a lot - maybe too many - of the London T20 crowd think similarly.

Went to a T20 at Edgbaston in 2021 and it was strange to hear the crowd...being partisan...cheering the home team. Unusual to get that in London! ?
 
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