Msg to the Board

[Aussie Bee]

Evening chaps,
sorry? well that don't do it does it?
I posted a few weeks ago how we shouldn't "fight" each other as this plays into Ron's hands by splitting us all and then I go and cause a major sh*tfight - basically against me! ok I was out of order big time.

Look - I love the Bees, don't like the ideas of woking, selling our best players etc but like thomas Bathurst can't see any better alternative - get in the 21st century people!
If Ron did go where would we be then? He brought us back from the brink following the Webb fiasco and in my eyes is doing the best he can. I am far away but can't you blokes just let him get on with it instead of slagging him? I woould hate to be Ron reading this board of late - I would definately say "sod 'em" and pull the rug.

bricklayers arms lads and fellow supporters of noades out! i really am sorry for my outburst but i'm a passionate supporter of the Bees even from this far away - see target 10,000 "Ex-pats" if you think I'm full of sh*t or ask Dave Lane about the "Aussie Bees" from the late 80's. Can we just agree to disagree? Whatever happens we are all brentford when it comes down to it.

It just really pisses me off that we have formed "2" camps now of "**** him off" or "we love him" - I guess time will tell.

anyway am I forgiven?

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Oh I forgot - Edmundo - I resign from being a moderater of all forums I'm involved with - I should know better!



[This message has been edited by Aussie Bee (edited 15 May 2001).]

 

[mhead bee]

People are entitled to their opinions, but can we just stop pigeon holing people.

We have a group of people who fall into the "Noades out, no to woking" category and that is up to them.
I fall into the "no to woking without a new ground" and "live with ron until a better person comes along" category. This does not make me a noades puppet, fan, a non bees fan or anthing else like that. It makes me realistic.

The aggression towards ron noades without a hint of a suggestion of a better (or even any) alternative is just stirring up trouble and makes me lose my temper.
The constant suggestion that I am a puppet,stupid, a noades fan etc, just because I am trying to see sensible reason is making me even angrier.

Just because I won't stand up on the top of the braemar stand with my fingers in my ears refusing to listen to anybody elses point of view, shouting "noades out, **** off noades" at the top of my voice does not make me a noades fan. I want to let him get us out of the mess we are in. If he goes, who the **** is going to bail us out and how?, by selling players or us, thats how. Let ron get on with it!

These are the reasons that people like aussie gets the hump and has outbursts like this one!!

 

[Ghost]

I'm with you brother - Well written argument and I hope people take it the right way, Well done

 

[Brickie Chap]

Oh no - this won't do - sensible discussions - watch out RN, this may work............

 

[B2B]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mhead bee:
People are entitled to their opinions, but can we just stop pigeon holing people.

Just because I won't stand up on the top of the braemar stand with my fingers in my ears refusing to listen to anybody elses point of view, shouting "noades out, **** off noades" at the top of my voice does not make me a noades fan. I want to let him get us out of the mess we are in. If he goes, who the **** is going to bail us out and how?, by selling players or us, thats how. Let ron get on with it! </font>

I fall into the Noades out group but am willing to discuss/deabte the merits of other suggestions. I do not have my ears full of fingers either.

Please do not put me in a pigeon hole. They smell and I am clostrophobic also....

 

[Bucks Bee]

I would like to put myself forward as a candidate to replace Aussie Bee. Any objections??? (of course there are - go on then!!!)

[This message has been edited by Bucks Bee (edited 15 May 2001).]

 

[Roy_loak]

aussie bee- my computer had a crowd formed around it today after i asked people to look at your hysterical "arseholes" post! everyone thought it was hilarious and the general opinion was that you must have felt a right idiot when you woke up the next morning and remembered what you'd done.how truly buttock clenchingly embarrassed you must feel! heeheehee you are a silly billy aren't you?
anyway, every cloud has a silver lining as they say, the people i showed your post to asked what you were wetting your undergarments about and when i explained what's been going on at bfc since rons arrival they thought ron noades sounds like bad news for brentford. so there's a few more in the noades out brigade.

NOADES OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mr Tree]

no to Bucks Bee.... yes to Dan

 

[Bucks Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dan the Bee:
no to Bucks Bee.... yes to Dan

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What a surprise - the first to slur my good name is from a lanky bean-pole with unusually red ears - and stands about 3ft taller than all his friends!!!

 

[TOMOGP]

Well said AB,
I also agree with Thomas its all very well shouting Noades out but who else is there, and sure if anyone of us was the £20 mill winner yes we would be there but would any of us really run the club better although we like to think we would.
Ron has done some good things for the club, we moan about selling him or him, but before he came who did we have W£bb had got rid of the decent players.
I do not want to leave GP but realise it is past its sell by date, forget the fiasco of access and compare Wembley to Cardiff, look what they have done to countless other grounds, those who want to stay at GP will just moan even more as the club goes further down the leagues, we MUST have a ground that holds 12/15 k to start with extention to 25/30 otherwise we have no ambition outside the 2/3 or non league.
I have never been completly happy with RN from the various shenanigans that went on over the years at Palace, in fact a Palace fan posted on hear that with Ron you are on a roller coaster. Ron as I have said many times is a businessman but also he must love football (not the Bees), and I do not think he would let any club go to the wall.
Give him his due Palace may well have been out of business now if he had let the ground go.
I am not a fan of RN but better the devil you know.
Finally NO to Woking & Kingstonian,
although I would reluctantly accept Kingstonian if still in the 2nd for one year whilst the new ground is built.
Not one of us really knows what is going on behind the scenes (even Pandora, unless thats Ron)

 

[nocoat]

To aussie bee, did madge bishop dying really get to you that much? you have every right to feel a right tw*t, knob etc etc, i take it that abuse is acceptable to you, the only thing that you say that makes sense is resigning as a moderator, who the hell are you to say how we should go about things, you probably have been going to the bees for longer than me, purely due to your age though and yes you are their in spirit, how the **** is that any help whatsoever to the cause of bfc, got a slow computer so cant be arsed to read the rest of your bullshit posts so i can respond to them, suffice to say you have gone well down in my estimation, but i know you dont give a toss about that because you have already shown what contempt you hold fellow bees fans in

 

[Turnstile Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bucks Bee:
What a surprise - the first to slur my good name is from a lanky bean-pole with unusually red ears - and stands about 3ft taller than all his friends!!!

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They let Dan the "Chimney Sweeps Brush" Bee be a moderator, so why not let you be one, eh?

 

[California Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by David Michael:
To aussie bee, did madge bishop dying really get to you that much? you have every right to feel a right tw*t, knob etc etc, i take it that abuse is acceptable to you, the only thing that you say that makes sense is resigning as a moderator, who the hell are you to say how we should go about things, you probably have been going to the bees for longer than me, purely due to your age though and yes you are their in spirit, how the **** is that any help whatsoever to the cause of bfc, got a slow computer so cant be arsed to read the rest of your bullshit posts so i can respond to them, suffice to say you have gone well down in my estimation, but i know you dont give a toss about that because you have already shown what contempt you hold fellow bees fans in</font>

If you aren't going to read someone's posts, bullsh*t or otherwise, you disqualify yourself from making any intelligent comment on what was written. Aussie Bee was asking why we can't agree to disagree. Why not answer that simple question for a start?

 

[Roy_loak]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by California Bee:
If you aren't going to read someone's posts, bullsh*t or otherwise, you disqualify yourself from making any intelligent comment on what was written. Aussie Bee was asking why we can't agree to disagree. Why not answer that simple question for a start?</font>

shut up california bee.

 

[Roy_loak]

Originally posted by David Michael:
To aussie bee, did madge bishop dying really get to you that much?

thanks david, i haven't laughed so much since i read aussie bees tantrum!

 

[Park Royal Ben]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Roy_loak:
shut up california bee. </font>

Well that's a sensible post that's really going to help the debate.

I've sat on the sidelines while this maelstroms going on, mainly because I just don't know all the facts.

I also feel there are people more articulate and in the know than me (on both sides).

I think Aussie Bees post was out of order but so have many others on here. However he bit the bullet and apologised, surely that should be acknowledged.

And David is it really constructive to take pleasure out of peoples supposed discomfort? Sad.

 

[Bucks Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Turnstile Bee:

They let Dan the "Chimney Sweeps Brush" Bee be a moderator, so why not let you be one, eh?

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I take that you second my motion?? For your loyalty I'll let you be my "right hand" man. Hows that for a fair deal????

 

[mhead bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Roy_loak:
aussie bee- my computer had a crowd formed around it today after i asked people to look at your hysterical "arseholes" post! everyone thought it was hilarious and the general opinion was that you must have felt a right idiot when you woke up the next morning and remembered what you'd done.how truly buttock clenchingly embarrassed you must feel! heeheehee you are a silly billy aren't you?
anyway, every cloud has a silver lining as they say, the people i showed your post to asked what you were wetting your undergarments about and when i explained what's been going on at bfc since rons arrival they thought ron noades sounds like bad news for brentford. so there's a few more in the noades out brigade.

NOADES OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, but did you offer an explanation to the both sides of the argument, as in, the alternatives to noades, the players he brought in, what he is trying to do and the mistakes he has made, or was it just your usual unpleasant rant of "murdering the club, evil bastard, sold 2 players in 3 years" ect..no wonder they all think he is bad news, you need to give both sides not just one!!

 

[Roy_loak]

dear mhead bee.....
i explained the situation as i see it, why should i do anything else? i thought the noades apologists had no other argument than the old one about "no queue of backers in braemar road". when we said "webb out" we meant it, we didn't say webb out and here's a list of alternatives did we? i think noades has been extremely bad for brentford, that's my point of view, that's the way i tell it. do you expect tony blair to go on tv and say i see it this way, however william hague's point of view is.....?
i dont need to give "both" sides because i love brentford fc and i simply say the truth.
how many sides is there for f*cks sake?
1.he ran up the debt
2.he is running round turning the lights off.
3.he wants to make us lodgers at a non league dump.

if that's ok with you then lucky you. you got nothing to worry about have you.in the meantime i am worried sick about my beloved brentford fc.
but never mind, when people ask you what you did when bfc was dying, you can proudly say you were splitting hairs on the griffin park grapevine.

and seeing as we're splitting hairs, when did i ever say 'selling 2 players in 3 years'?

 

[California Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Roy_loak:
dear mhead bee.....
i explained the situation as i see it, why should i do anything else? i thought the noades apologists had no other argument than the old one about "no queue of backers in braemar road". when we said "webb out" we meant it, we didn't say webb out and here's a list of alternatives did we? i think noades has been extremely bad for brentford, that's my point of view, that's the way i tell it. do you expect tony blair to go on tv and say i see it this way, however william hague's point of view is.....?
i dont need to give "both" sides because i love brentford fc and i simply say the truth.
how many sides is there for f*cks sake?
1.he ran up the debt
2.he is running round turning the lights off.
3.he wants to make us lodgers at a non league dump.

if that's ok with you then lucky you. you got nothing to worry about have you.in the meantime i am worried sick about my beloved brentford fc.
but never mind, when people ask you what you did when bfc was dying, you can proudly say you were splitting hairs on the griffin park grapevine.

and seeing as we're splitting hairs, when did i ever say 'selling 2 players in 3 years'? </font>

Antagonising one another in this fashion can have only one outcome. Some number of the dwindling Brentford fan base will feel alienated from "the other side" and decide to look elswhere for a club they feel they can belong to. That would reduce the core number of Brentford fans even further than its current parlous number. Eventually there will be too few of us left to matter.

Tony Blair didn't get elected by calling the voters idiots and slagging them off. If you have a point of view, express it. If someone has a different viewpoint let them do the same.

This endless round of sarcasm and gratuitous insults serves no purpose whatsoever and leaves an objective observer convinced that the inmates are running the asylum in the Brentford supporters community.

 

[crocodile dunbee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by California Bee:
Antagonising one another in this fashion can have only one outcome. Some number of the dwindling Brentford fan base will feel alienated from "the other side" and decide to look elswhere for a club they feel they can belong to. That would reduce the core number of Brentford fans even further than its current parlous number. Eventually there will be too few of us left to matter.

Tony Blair didn't get elected by calling the voters idiots and slagging them off. If you have a point of view, express it. If someone has a different viewpoint let them do the same.

This endless round of sarcasm and gratuitous insults serves no purpose whatsoever and leaves an objective observer convinced that the inmates are running the asylum in the Brentford supporters community.</font>

make your mind up california bee, you can't join in and then sit on the fence. you attacked david michael, now you criticise people for sarcasm and insults.
your theory about people looking for another club because of a disagreement is a very weak idea. that might be a reason for changing allegiances in california but i cant see it catching on here somehow.

 

[Turnstile Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bucks Bee:
I take that you second my motion?? For your loyalty I'll let you be my "right hand" man. Hows that for a fair deal????

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Well, they could always make me a mod!!

I used to be one of big match forum and chit chat....I went away for 6 weeks in the summer and when I got back Ed had taken me off!!

 

[California Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Roy_loak:
shut up california bee. </font>

On the Plus Side: Excellent brevity, clear message

On the Minus Side: No supporting reasoning, blunt, impolite, intolerant, shows no understanding, gratuitously offensive

Overal mark: D

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

SHUT ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!

 

[Aussie Bee]

ok votb