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Murray Jones

Murray Jones now assistant manager at Bromley.
 

Murray Jones

It would be ironic if in five years time, having established himself as a successful manager somewhere, we would be calling for him to return to Brentford.
 

Murray Jones

Wasn't Murray Jones a lucky boy the Internet wasn't as widely accessible when he was our main striker!
 

Murray Jones

From what I remember he wasn't a striker; Holder was going to mold him into one! Don't think he managed it...

Off topic but my two memories of MJ are

1) The shorts
2) The game he thought he scored (Anglo Italian?), turned away thinking he had scored only for the ball to hit the post and Marcus tap into an empty net
 

Murray Jones

Wasn't Murray Jones a lucky boy the Internet wasn't as widely accessible when he was our main striker!

Yes. He would have been a legend!!!
He probably would have left for China much earlier!
 

Murray Jones

From what I remember he wasn't a striker; Holder was going to mold him into one! Don't think he managed it...

From what I remember if my failing memory holds up, he was playing as a striker in a reserve team (M'Boro?), was recommended by Alan Nelmes?
MJ was signed as a replacement for 37 goal D.Holdsworth.
 

Murray Jones

Murray Jones

From what I remember if my failing memory holds up, he was playing as a striker in a reserve team (M'Boro?), was recommended by Alan Nelmes?
MJ was signed as a replacement for 37 goal D.Holdsworth.

Scored against Tony Adams et al in a behind closed doors friendly was another story out about at the time I think
 

Murray Jones

Grimsby I think...he is now a QPR academy coach...

Yeah, that rings a bell, what a legend that guy was I think if I had played up front at that time I think even I could have managed 1 league goal, cant believe
he is now an academy coach.
 

Murray Jones

Says in his stats that he only made 6 starts for the Bees, seemed a lot more even including the 14 sub appearances.
Makes me realise how much better off we now are!
 

Murray Jones

Says in his stats that he only made 6 starts for the Bees, seemed a lot more even including the 14 sub appearances.
Makes me realise how much better off we now are!

Joe Allon was the Holdsworth replacement I thought? Jones was a panic buy during the 92-93 season when Holder realised his Rostron inspired hoof ball was doomed...
 

Murray Jones

Yeah, that rings a bell, what a legend that guy was I think if I had played up front at that time I think even I could have managed 1 league goal, cant believe
he is now an academy coach.

I have seen him coach the Fulham and Bromley academies (think he left Fulham to head up the the Bromley one).....he is a good coach and is a decent bloke.

See this http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/murray-jones/2a/147/b20
 

Murray Jones

Please order the BBB90s and all will be revealed about Murray Jones. We even have a photo of him scoring in a preseason friendly at Merthyr. He WAS the planned Deano replacement at cost us 75,000 large ones from a Grimsby team that bit our hands off and could not believe their luck in actually getting money for him
 

Murray Jones

Joe Allon was the Holdsworth replacement I thought? Jones was a panic buy during the 92-93 season when Holder realised his Rostron inspired hoof ball was doomed...

I think that Murray Jones was the original replacement brought in during the close season. A 75K donation to the Grimsby Donkey Sanctuary
I am telling myself that we went in later for Joe Allon once it became clear that Murray Jones was not up to it.
All I can say in the guys defence is that he failed at a level we are now aspiring to.....
 

Murray Jones

Please order the BBB90s and all will be revealed about Murray Jones. We even have a photo of him scoring in a preseason friendly at Merthyr. He WAS the planned Deano replacement at cost us 75,000 large ones from a Grimsby team that bit our hands off and could not believe their luck in actually getting money for him

I bow to your better knowledge on these matters, though I think we are all in agreement that he wasn't what we'd hoped for...I keep thinking Keith Millen was somehow involved? Was Murray a friend?
 

Murray Jones

Deano is still my all-time favourite bee, i also remember Joe Allon (and his massive teeth) like it was yesterday. I have absolutely no recollection of Murray Jones though, at all, as a flop or otherwise. :confused:
 

Murray Jones

Deano is still my all-time favourite bee, i also remember Joe Allon (and his massive teeth) like it was yesterday. I have absolutely no recollection of Murray Jones though, at all, as a flop or otherwise. :confused:

You dont remember our only season outside the lower divisions for 60 years ?
 

Murray Jones

Murray Jones

Please order the BBB90s and all will be revealed about Murray Jones. We even have a photo of him scoring in a preseason friendly at Merthyr. He WAS the planned Deano replacement at cost us 75,000 large ones from a Grimsby team that bit our hands off and could not believe their luck in actually getting money for him

I was at Merthyr to see him score.
 

Murray Jones

You dont remember our only season outside the lower divisions for 60 years ?
Yes i remember that. We started off with a 0-2 home defeat v Wolves (who i think had Steve Bull in their ranks). I remember us beating pompey 4-1, and us being as high as 8th at one point. I remember the Anglo Italian Cup, and beating Bari.

BUT, i still have absolutely no idea of who Murray Jones is. It's like he was that sh*te he's done a spell on me or something.
 

Murray Jones

I bow to your better knowledge on these matters, though I think we are all in agreement that he wasn't what we'd hoped for...I keep thinking Keith Millen was somehow involved? Was Murray a friend?

Keith and Murray were best mates. Murray was sent off at GP for a bad challenge on Keith the season before he signed. He was on loan from Grimsby to Torquay at the time. Apart from the bad challenge, Murray had a really good game against us and caused us all sorts of problems.
 

Murray Jones

Yes i remember that. We started off with a 0-2 home defeat v Wolves (who i think had Steve Bull in their ranks). I remember us beating pompey 4-1, and us being as high as 8th at one point. I remember the Anglo Italian Cup, and beating Bari.

BUT, i still have absolutely no idea of who Murray Jones is. It's like he was that sh*te he's done a spell on me or something.

He had one stormer of a game, i will leave this open to anyone with a good memory
 

Murray Jones

Murray looked really good in training. It's just a pity he couldn't transfer that form to game time.
 

Murray Jones

I bow to your better knowledge on these matters, though I think we are all in agreement that he wasn't what we'd hoped for...I keep thinking Keith Millen was somehow involved? Was Murray a friend?

Best mates apparently and if you recall, there was a lot of talk about Millen moving on as he was out of contract. Signed a new contract and his mate joined at the same time. Hmmmmmm.
 

Murray Jones

Best mates apparently and if you recall, there was a lot of talk about Millen moving on as he was out of contract. Signed a new contract and his mate joined at the same time. Hmmmmmm.

Yeah, because thats the way it works.
 

Murray Jones

Was it Lucchese (H) ?
or
Tranmere (H) ?

He did hit the bar in one of the Anglo Italian Cup matches (and not Stripes either I mean the crossbar) so probably the Lucchese game you refer to, he was doomed as a professional footballer as his shorts were pulled so far up his arse that they obviously prevented freedom of movement;)
 

Murray Jones

Ahhh, happy days.. Murray is a real Bees legend. For the wrong reasons. Think how far on the good spectrum Deano was, Murray was a similar distance on the ****ing sh*t one. The fact of who he was replacing was probably his main problem.

Allon was an improvement and much needed. Stan Collymore was at Palace reserves at the time and seemed a good option before we took the punt on Joe. Stan went on to join Fatcunt Fry at Soufend and did alright for himself. Indeed, whereas he went on to beat up Ulrika, poor Joe just got his (ample) jaw smashed by Bennett.
 

Murray Jones

Ps. Not condoning any violence, especially against women or Swedes.
 

Murray Jones

Hmm, though maybe against Geordies who go in too hard in training on a youngster. Allegedly.
 

Murray Jones

Keith and Murray were best mates. Murray was sent off at GP for a bad challenge on Keith the season before he signed. He was on loan from Grimsby to Torquay at the time. Apart from the bad challenge, Murray had a really good game against us and caused us all sorts of problems.

I remember thinking he was a handful that game and a decent target man. How wrong was I?
 

Murray Jones

Off topic but my two memories of MJ are

1) The shorts
2) The game he thought he scored (Anglo Italian?), turned away thinking he had scored only for the ball to hit the post and Marcus tap into an empty net
I thought Lee Luscombe scored that goal.
 

Murray Jones

Been mentioned elsewhere that he did actually score in a pre season friendly at Merthyr Tydfil.
 

Murray Jones

I can remember MJ shinning the ball against the post in a midweek home match, but can't remember the opposition.
 

Murray Jones

Was it Lucchese (H) ?
or
Tranmere (H) ?

Tranmere mate, well remembered. Luckiest win ever that night they got. Pat Nevin ?
 

Murray Jones

Tranmere mate, well remembered. Luckiest win ever that night they got. Pat Nevin ?

He got MoM that night and did have a good game. Bloody Tranmere haunted us in the early 90s, the home game we should have got a minimum draw and we threw away a two goal lead away. They also did us in the POs under Holder, Eric sodding Nixon and all.
 

Murray Jones

He got MoM that night and did have a good game. Bloody Tranmere haunted us in the early 90s, the home game we should have got a minimum draw and we threw away a two goal lead away. They also did us in the POs under Holder, Eric sodding Nixon and all.

Don't forget the 0_-0 league cup massacre in 94 when we murdered them and nixon kept us out
 

Murray Jones

Don't forget the 0_-0 league cup massacre in 94 when we murdered them and nixon kept us out

Oh thanks for that...... It was at the Tranmere Play-off second leg in 91 where I saw a Bees fan burst into tears at the final whistle. I've often felt like it, but he was distraught. On the Murray Jones front, didn't Dean Holdsworth once say in a fanzine interview that he would have stayed another season at Brentford and it would have cost us less in an improved contract than we paid in Jones' transfer fee and salary? I actually hope this wasn't true.
 

Murray Jones

I do not say this lightly.
He may have (somehow) played for us when we were in the division above.
But I doubt he would have justified a place in virtually any other Bees line up since the early 1990's.
In fact, I am pressed to think of any Brentford line-up since the late 1950's that would have warranted his selection. And that includes a few poor ones !
He may have cost us around £75000 in notes.
But, in reality, he cost us a lot more, since the reliance on him, initially, as a replacement for Dean Holdsworth was a big factor in our relegation from a division we had worked so hard to reach...:(
However, I am greatly lifted by the news that he is now coaching at QPR!!! :sorted:
 

Murray Jones

The Grimsby manager was quoted in the paper as saying "he's too good for us". Hmmm.... we ALL knew he was sh*t.
 
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