need for striker again !

[lee barker]

With ole signing from hibs and paul gibbs signing from plymouth in july

All we need a top class striker like roberts of rovers or even a forward like marco from darlo would do ? any thoughts

but charles and italian donkey will not do any thing next year !

 

[Chrisbee]

Congratulations on your first posting Lee.New signings are discussed at length regularly here;speculation is always rife.I quite like Lorenzo if only for his response to our support at Luton.A full season MAY see the best out of him..We do need another forward though,an experienced one would be preferal.

[This message has been edited by Chrisbee (edited 07 June 2000).]

 

[Juvenile Bee]

I think our first priority should be to get Folan fit. We lacked any quality in the last third last season and I still think Tony can do the business. He's got 2 feet, skill, dribbling ability and I think he can finally live up to expectation this season. As far as strikers go, Peter Thorne must be top of the list. Doubt Stoke will let him go for cheap but I think he fits the bill perfectly.

 

[VOA]

Someone like Thorne will NEVER come to Brentford so long as he is at a bigger club in the same division. Players want to play in a large stadium in front of a lot of fans for a big city club. Unfortunately.
We have to look at the lower divisions and splash out there, as we did with Forster, Taylor... or at higher reserve teams (Holdsworth). But with a striker more than any position, you have to throw the money at them because people look at statistics and the only real statistic football has is goals. If Ron was ready to throw big money (although never a gamble) at Hermann, he must be prepared to do it again and it will pay off. Hopefully this is why he is taking his time.

 

[Nottsbee]

MS is right. Those people who are expecting us to go out and sign the likes of Jason Roberts are hopelessly optimistic about a) the attractiveness of Brentford as a destination for an ambitious player and b) the amount of money Ron has/is willing to spend.
However there are good players around. Regular readers of GPG may remember me recommending two players who impressed me last season - Clark Carlisle, a centre back from Blackpool and Peter Clark, a left back from Carlisle. They have recently been transferred to QPR and Stockport respectively for £250,000 each.
No strikers there, you may complain. Well, Stockport have also signed Brian Carrigan from Clyde. Now I can't pretend to have seen him play but he was the top scorer in Scottish Div 2 last season.
Perhaps the man we most need to return to form is John Griffin!

 

[mhead bee]

I agree with above, people who think we should but thorne roberts cureton ect are on cloud cookoo land.Foe the last 6-7 months people have come on her saying we should buy mr x, y or Z.Are people just being silly or do they honestly believe that we are going to sign the creme of the crop and compete against the first and premier division for these signitures.

Any players that are well known and established are going to cost way over their real worth as that is how it goes.Ron has made it crystal clear that any player he buys he will only pay less than what they are going to be worth in a year or two.Therefor please stop kidding yourselves re who we may buy.
I for one think ron has looked at about 20 young strikers who he believes can make the grade but are reletively unknown ie, bothroyd,so I will sit back, not panic just yet, and see who we have in our squad in August not june before I start to complain.

 

[Edmundo]

Originally posted by Nottingham Bee:
Clark Carlisle ... and Peter Clark, a left back from Carlisle.

Clark Carlisle and Clark from Carlisle? Are you sure you're not making it up?

Do Darlington have a player called Jermaine?

 

[Nottsbee]

These things happen. Anyway, no-one used to complain that Bobby and Jack never played for Charlton.
Is there enough material here for a new A-Z thread?

 

[Steve D]

I agree that we are unlikely to pick up big name strikers, or ones from bigger clubs.

This is because Ron's ethos and John Griffin's expertise seems to be in 'finding' great players from non-league clubs.

I do like Lorenzo - just for his will to play. Though I think he would be better over a mile and a half (without the hurdles)

 

[Juvenile Bee]

My point is that to rise up the divisions we must be able to buy people from our division. Obviously not Cureton, Roberts and really big names but Thorne is past 25 so he is not being chased by everyone. If not, what about Kyle Lightbourne? Big, quick, can score goals and no longer in the first team.

 

[Luton Bee]

Originally posted by Steve D:

I do like Lorenzo - just for his will to play. Though I think he would be better over a mile and a half (without the hurdles)

You may well be onto something there Steve. We need a jockey for Lorenzo with a bloody big whip!!!

Down Mrs Bates

 

[Brian]

To Be honest I'm getting a bit fed up seeing you all slagging of the man from del monte why not give him a real chance to show us what he is capable of

 

[VOA]

I like lorenzo. He scares me. I've never seen a striker intimidate centre backs like that, and he wins an unbelievable amount of flick ons. Unfortunately, he is too slow to sniff out chances and will not score many. Therefore he is not a centre forward for a very good Div2 side, just run of the mill.

 

[lee barker]

Del mote can do a job it any saw him in the reserve match against west ham when he scored twice but he will not 20 goals a season and that what we need.

 

[Isleworth Bee]

I see Ray Lew was quoted in the Chron today saying they won't be "rushed into getting a new striker" and if necessary will be happy to start the season with the same strike force that finished last year.

Hmmm..... there's not being rushed and there's not being rushed. Did we not spend nearly all last year waiting on Cambridge to get knocked out of the cup and still didn;t end up with the man in question. Or anyone for that matter.

Doesn't really smack of much ambition for next year does it. Doesn't really surprise me though.

Lets hope it's just a smokescreen and that there is some action soon. Anyone who really believes that the same strikeforce as last year will keep us out of the bottom four must have been watching a different team to me.

 

[Bigbee]

Someone I know whos 18 year old son is on the verge of the Swansea 1st team ( he doesnt play for them but is always on the end of their team photos )said they are signing Mark Stein from Bournemouth,Bournemouth have signed ( according to teletext) some 19 yr old called Chukki something from Coventry.Reading signed a third player this week.

Ray Lew on Teamlies " we could do worse than start with the same squad as we finished with " !!!!!!!! How long does it take to get a striker Ron ??? Its been over a year now and apart form Lorenzo ,zilch,didly squat.

Ah,I should just sign off for the summer and forget about it,Rons probably off the Euro 2000 on a scouting holiday,and I dont mean in tents with small boys........

 

[Alton Bee]

I think all this talk of needing anew striker although valid is aninsult to the existing strikers. I feel they would benefit from having a regular and FIT supply line. To my mind Ithink last season we suffered from the worst injury crisis in recent memory. If we did have a fully fit midfield (and strikers) woundn't the talk be of who Lloyd etc are going to be sold to and for how much ?

 

[Isleworth Bee]

Sorry Alton Bee I totally disagree. If anything the performance of our strikers last season was an insult to the fans.

[This message has been edited by Isleworth Bee (edited 10 June 2000).]

 

[Nigel Brooks]

Sorry Alton Bee my vote is with Isleworth Bee.

The 'strike' force last season was abysmal in both its lack of effort and in doing the simple things well. It was only towards the very end of the season that Lloydy was actually making space for himself and starting to run off the ball. I know he was injured for a few matches but he sahred the inexcuseable problem of waiting for service in positions where he was having to beat two or three defenders (often failing at the first hurdle). Yes we had an awful injury problem but the 'front-line' simply didn't seem to know how to cope with bringing the ball up from deeper positions.

I was also frustrated by the lack of vision right across the forward line it was almost as if they were playing one-on-one. There can be no excuse for ball-hogging when, all too rarely, another Bees player had made space. If it was frustrating for us, you could see and hear the frustration in Evo and Scotty.

Had we been serious about addressing the problem we could and should have picked up and experienced striker on extended loan. It was only a question of money, which, once again, we were not willing to spend. Another insult to the week-in week-out supporter.

 

[Bigbee]

I had a word with GH re your statement that you felt the week in week out supporters were being dealt with harshly.He said try coming every other week ,once a month or not at all.That should clear up your problem !

 

[Nigel Brooks]

Originally posted by Bigbee:
I had a word with GH re your statement that you felt the week in week out supporters were being dealt with harshly.He said try coming every other week ,once a month or not at all.That should clear up your problem !

Nice to find someone who has the ear of GH.
I tried coming not at all, but I was only four at the time, since when it's been summers excepted week in, week out, to the far flung corners of this sceptered isle, well Plymouth and Carlisle at least.

Not coming at all is NOT an option.

 

[Bigbee]

Last statement taken from the the very lips (?) of dear old Mrs Bates

The old girl cant " come " on this new board ,I am sure we all miss her ......really

 

[kempy]

Just a thought, why didn't we and don't we have a look at taking that Dave McEwen on loan from Spurs. Noades was desperate to sign him around this time last year.

 

[Edmundo]

No he wasn't. One of the coaches persuaded him to offer McEwen a contract. Noades wasn't that fussed and when Spurs snapped him up, Noades said, under his breath, that he wasn't good enough anyway.