NEWS New Jersey Road Development

[Banana]

This evening the club hosted a public consultation on plans to redevelop Jersey Road.

It's a massive undertaking involving:

• the removal of all existing buildings on the site;
• new First and Academy facilities
• A covered pitch
• Using the entire site for more football pitches
• Development will take over a year
• Planned opening in Autumn 2024
• Club are looking at option to relocate elsewhere or use temporary facilities on-site during construction

Here's an overview of the proposal with the indoor football pitch at the far end; the first team facilities adjacent to the pitch with Academy space behind that.




Here's a plan of the site. You can see that the entire footprint of the land is covered in football pitches except where it's not practical. There will be 3 entrances, with the players given their own car park. You can see two car park entrances, the other entrance if for groundsman etc towards the East of the site.







Here's the proposed Ground Floor



And the First Floor - not a viewing gallery over the covered pitch




Timeline:

 

[Banana]

 

[rebus]

One of the true benefits of Premier League riches is being able to incredible fund things like this.

In stark contrast to Portsmouth and QPR from times past who pissed away thier money on agents rather than infrastructure.

 

[Banana]

Bigger than Chelsea!

 

[maddogging]

Wow, now this is exciting news

 

[readingbee]

Looks stunning. Interesting that an Academy is included, but probably not unexpected.

 

[Banana]

Looks stunning. Interesting that an Academy is included, but probably not unexpected.

Yes, Cliff Crown said that we would be going for a top class academy again an look to develop British talent given the limitations placed on us (and everyone else) by Brexit.

 

[ladbroke]

Does one really need 15 pitches? Or even 24 (Chelsea) or 21 (Leicester)....

 

[rebus]

Does one really need 15 pitches? Or even 24 (Chelsea) or 21 (Leicester)....

In winter you can rotate training so the wear is not concentrated on a small amount of pitches. If you only have six pitches and three squads it becomes an issue.

 

[Banana]

Does one really need 15 pitches? Or even 24 (Chelsea) or 21 (Leicester)....

There are

• 8 x uncovered full-size pitches (1 with floodlights)
• 1 x covered full-size pitch
• 1 x synthetic full-size pitch (with floodlights)
• 2 x 7-a-side pitches
• 1 x 9-a-side pitch
• 5 x half-pitches for goalkeeper training

So, in reality, it's 8 pitches that would be used for a combination of;:

• First Team training
• B Team training
• B Team matches
• Academy matches
• Women's team matches
• Academy training
• Women's training

So it sounds about correct to me.

 

[ladbroke]

In winter you can rotate training so the wear is not concentrated on a small amount of pitches. If you only have six pitches and three squads it becomes an issue.

It was a bit more tongue in cheek.
Just didn't add an emoji.

Though Bananas more detailed response makes more sense.

 

[Ealing Bee]

Any indication of how much this is costing?

And whether it might be scaled back (possibly future-proofed?) in the event of relegation next summer?

 

[Invipai]

Good to know there are good plans for the women's team in this. Do we know how much they're planning to invest in that?

Looks good though! The smart teams invest in infrastructure (i.e. permanent elements that will improve the club long term). Less smart clubs spend it on players who will be there for a year or two only....

 

[Banana]

Any indication of how much this is costing?

And whether it might be scaled back (possibly future-proofed?) in the event of relegation next summer?

It won't happen if we get relegated.

Looking at costs, this could be £15m to £20m based on square metres.

 

[Ealing Bee]

It won't happen if we get relegated.

Fair enough.

Looking at costs, this could be £15m to £20m based on square metres.

Wow! Little old Brentford.

Though you have to wonder how Leicester spent £95m on their new training complex last year - is it built on the site of a gold field?

 

[GP200]

............. excellent............ more good news................

 

[BFC1997]

Had no idea that Jersey Road had the space for all of that. Although like with the stadium looks like we are really intending to “maximise” what’s available.

Really looks like another case of the club levelling up, hopefully the process of getting the project completed is a relatively smooth one.

 

[N5022N122]

How do they build a full size covered pitch?

 

[Banana]

How do they build a full size covered pitch?

1. Write a cheque for £8m
2. Put up some steels
3. Clad it
4. Put on a roof.

 

[B2B]

1. Write a cheque for £8m
2. Put up some steels
3. Clad it
4. Put on a roof.

sounds complex

 

[readingbee]

Had no idea that Jersey Road had the space for all of that. Although like with the stadium looks like we are really intending to “maximise” what’s available.

Really looks like another case of the club levelling up, hopefully the process of getting the project completed is a relatively smooth one.

Jersey Road area is massive, as now can be seen. Hopefully not too many objections from the neighbours to the size of the buildings.

 

[Banana]

Jersey Road area is massive, as now can be seen. Hopefully not too many objections from the neighbours to the size of the buildings.

Local councillor is a QPR supporter...

 

[AB]

It won't happen if we get relegated.

Looking at costs, this could be £15m to £20m based on square metres.

Did they say it won’t happen if we’re relegated or is that your opinion? Is there not a case to build it as part of being a club that intends to go back up again at least by the time it is completed 2 seasons later? Making it contingent on staying up this season sounds surprisingly short termist for us if we will need top facilities and an academy for a longer term PL future as pushing it back 2-3 years wouldn’t support us if we did bounce back straightaway.

 

[Banana]

Did they say it won’t happen if we’re relegated or is that your opinion?

If I was my opinion that I would say so

The timeline is very ambitious too. There's no doubt that it will have to be built in stages over a few seasons.

We are also looking at buying the site to provide longer-term security.

 

[w7 bee]

What are the chances this will fly through planning 1st time around ? will we have to revisit the proposals do you think , is there any controversy ?

 

[regp61]

If the academy re-opens can I have my old scouting job back?

 

[N5022N122]

Cant see the steel spanning but could be like this

 

[N5022N122]

Guess what

 

[Banana]

Cant see the steel spanning but could be like this

Palace, Leicester and the two Manchester Clubs have a full-size pitch undercover. Have you checked-out their offerings?

And it certainly won't be an inflatable structure from the plans shown today,

Are you concerned that steel can't span 60m? Have you seen the Forth Railway Bridge?

 

[ruislip bee]

1. Write a cheque for £8m
2. Put up some steels
3. Clad it
4. Put on a roof.

Basically a large industrial warehouse. I know someone who could do that.

 

[Banana]

Basically a large industrial warehouse. I know someone who could do that.

Exactly. Not rocket science.

 

[rebus]

We really are moving into new territory. Fantastic. And to think I used to run round that field each summer for our school sports day!

 

[hobbsy]

What are the chances this will fly through planning 1st time around ? will we have to revisit the proposals do you think , is there any controversy ?

I'm not going on the campaign trail again.

 

[BEEcool]

This evening the club hosted a public consultation on plans to redevelop Jersey Road.

It's a massive undertaking involving:

• the removal of all existing buildings on the site;
• new First and Academy facilities
• A covered pitch
• Using the entire site for more football pitches
• Development will take over a year
• Planned opening in Autumn 2024
• Club are looking at option to relocate elsewhere or use temporary facilities on-site during construction

Here's an overview of the proposal with the indoor football pitch at the far end; the first team facilities adjacent to the pitch with Academy space behind that.

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Here's a plan of the site. You can see that the entire footprint of the land is covered in football pitches except where it's not practical. There will be 3 entrances, with the players given their own car park. You can see two car park entrances, the other entrance if for groundsman etc towards the East of the site.

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Here's the proposed Ground Floor

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And the First Floor - not a viewing gallery over the covered pitch

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Timeline:

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Looks the dog’s b*llocks.

 

[Leonardo]

I imagine the main objection would be the lights.

 

[fencer/bee]

Will there be a supporters bar ( stripes )
Will they sell chips
Will we see the castle badge ?

 

[JVT4000]

Palace, Leicester and the two Manchester Clubs have a full-size pitch undercover. Have you checked-out their offerings?

And it certainly won't be an inflatable structure from the plans shown today,

Are you concerned that steel can't span 60m? Have you seen the Forth Railway Bridge?

The Palace one has been going up down the road from us, and looks very impressive. To get an idea of scale, on the top right you can see the Kent CCC ground at Beckenham. On the far right is Palace's other training facilities, which are already pretty good. Not sure if they're keeping that site on too or if it'll be developed.

As well as the extra space allowing CP to run a huge amount of youth training, it also seems to do a good job of getting local kids following the club. My son does goalkeeping dev there. They have banned other club kits from being worn this season, so he's had to leave the Raya kit at home.

 

[Mulitinovic]

I imagine the main objection would be the lights.

I would hope residents would jump at the opportunity - upwardly mobile football club using the land largely as a greenfield site is a boon to the value of their property and enjoyment of it compared to any other use of the land another owner would make of it if we are frustrated and decide to up and move elsewhere.

 

[Banana]

I would hope residents would jump at the opportunity - upwardly mobile football club using the land largely as a greenfield site is a boon to the value of their property and enjoyment of it compared to any other use of the land another owner would make of it if we are frustrated and decide to up and move elsewhere.

Yep. Residential development would not be fun for them.

 

[PhilE]

I imagine the main objection would be the lights.

I notice the pitches with floodlights are furthest from the houses. One already floodlit?

 

[hanworthbee]

What are the chances this will fly through planning 1st time around ? will we have to revisit the proposals do you think , is there any controversy ?

No chance it'll take years !

 

[mhead bee]

Fair enough.

Wow! Little old Brentford.

Though you have to wonder how Leicester spent £95m on their new training complex last year - is it built on the site of a gold field?

Because they need more room as their player lay down for most of the game.

 

[mhead bee]

Will there be a supporters bar ( stripes )
Will they sell chips
Will we see the castle badge ?

And onions.

 

[Ealing Bee]

Palace, Leicester and the two Manchester Clubs have a full-size pitch undercover. Have you checked-out their offerings?

And it certainly won't be an inflatable structure from the plans shown today,

Spurs too. Apparently their roof is made from the same materials as used in the Eden Project, so very little use of steel:

 

[Ealing Bee]

Is there not a case to build it as part of being a club that intends to go back up again at least by the time it is completed 2 seasons later? Making it contingent on staying up this season sounds surprisingly short termist for us if we will need top facilities and an academy for a longer term PL future as pushing it back 2-3 years wouldn’t support us if we did bounce back straightaway.

Banana has already confirmed that it is contingent upon surviving this season in the PL.

Considering the sums involved, I can see how/why this should be so, for afaik, you only get a far single parachute payment if you go straight back down after one season. Whereas if you survive two seasons or more, you get a three year scheme, which amounts to far more in total. (Basically this is to deter clubs budgeting on a "yo-yo" basis).

And that's before you get to Tracey Crouch's plan to overhaul the whole parachute payment system entirely.

(Plus you get double the PL participation money if you survive two seasons. Obv.)

 

[nick logan]

amazing stuff

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

Big club

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Too big brentford!!!

Honestly incredible stuff, who would have thought it a few years ago.!

 

[Ealing Bee]

Honestly incredible stuff, who would have thought it a few years ago.!

Yep, a training facility which is more impressive than your stadium (GP)!

 

[StreathamBee]

The Palace one has been going up down the road from us, and looks very impressive. To get an idea of scale, on the top right you can see the Kent CCC ground at Beckenham. On the far right is Palace's other training facilities, which are already pretty good. Not sure if they're keeping that site on too or if it'll be developed.

As well as the extra space allowing CP to run a huge amount of youth training, it also seems to do a good job of getting local kids following the club. My son does goalkeeping dev there. They have banned other club kits from being worn this season, so he's had to leave the Raya kit at home.

As a fellow South London dwelling parent of a young goalkeeper, I didn't know this goalkeeping development course existed, and will look into it! And nothing to stop me as a parent picking-up and dropping-off in Bees clobber