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Next Seasons Potential

After securing another season of Premier League football all bar the shouting I’m feeling really optimistic about kicking on next season so what should we be realistically be aiming for?

Assuming we don’t have another season of countless injuries we already have a squad capable of challenging the very best in the league. It’s no coincidence that since we have, not just a starting eleven of first choice players but squad real depth we have shown how good we can be, but with the added extra of KLP, Damsgaard, Collins etc all getting more game time and finally looking like they’ve settled into proper Premier League players can we start to aim for European football with one or two quality signings?

How does everyone see next season shaping up and what do we need to get to the next level? One things for sure, this club is not satisfied with just making sure we are in the Premier League each season.
 

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Thomas doesn’t want extra games so don’t expect a push for Europe or domestic cup run ???????
 

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If there’s one thing this season should have done it is rip away any sense of entitlement.

The sky is the limit as far as I’m concerned, but we should just be celebrating every point at this level, making it as tough for every opponent as we can from the stands and then seeing where it takes us.
 

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rebus said:
I think everyone needs to calm down. 12th-14th is fine for me. Anything above that is a bonus.
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I don’t disagree but there’s so much young talent in the squad and the club is generally always looking up not down. I do think with one or two smart signings we could be looking a top half finish again. That’s not to say I would see it as a failure if we didn’t achieve that just that the potential is there.
 

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rebus said:
I think everyone needs to calm down. 12th-14th is fine for me. Anything above that is a bonus.
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Agree, I just want us to be able to compete in most games, as long as we are comfortably safe we can just enjoy the rest.
 

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rebus said:
I think everyone needs to calm down. 12th-14th is fine for me. Anything above that is a bonus.
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We’ve comfortably won 2 games on the bounce.

Against prime relegation fodder. As you say let’s not get carried away. Get the first 35 points on the board and see where we go from there

I expect lazy journos and YouTuber types to have us predicted bottom 5. Happy to be underestimated
 

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Taking some big scalps again like season 1&2 would be marvellous
 

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This summer is again key.
Obviously the focus is on:

Squad (Including managing injuries)
This season Benham gambled and did not go a spending spree. He knew that with the strength of the promoted teams and financial difficulties of our rivals we would probably get away with keeping our powder dry. He like everyone else could not forsee the level of injuries to key players that the squad suffered but even in January decided to be fairly pragmatic. We know we have Thiago coming in and a wish list of a Centre Back, Full Back and Midfielder.

Tactics (Including game management).
The aim at pre season was to try and move away from a 5 3 2 formation and get more possession in games. Injuries scuppered that progression and it was a case if needs must. They will have to look at game management and how to hold onto leads and be more defensively solid again. This season the away form has not been great until recently and points have been rare against the top clubs. To push up the table again they will have to try and improve this.
 

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Squad
Defence
I don't see Zanka getting a new contract.
Sergio coming here is extremely unlikely.
Mee might get a year contract. But I would see this as the new Zanka covering role when we are short of our starting centre backs.
Hickey probably won't get snapped up and will need a good pre season to get the fitness going. Ideally will miss the Scotland squad.
Henry hopefully will have pretty much a full pre season and fingers crossed he has not lost anything of pace and skills.

Be interesting to see if our B team centre backs (Thinking Ji Soo and Frederick) getting into the mix.

We certainly need some full back cover so we don't end up like Palace away and relying on Ghoddos trying his best to deal with Olise.
 

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Quite a few teams will need to weaken their squads next season
 

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Squad midfield
The danes will hopefully all stay and get through the Euros. Damsgaard looking like the player we hoped. The one benefit of the injuries is how much time Yarmo has got on the pitch and he can only get better. I like many others have concerns about Oneyka and there is a worry defensively when Norgaard is injured. It is a lot to ask for Janelt to be available and perform all the time. Jensen looks like he is well and truly back but needs to be fully fit and not having to play every minute either. Be interesting to see how they strengthen. From the youngsters there is Trevitt and Maghoma to consider and we have not seen Konak yet. Da Silva will probably get a new contract and could make a key contribution later in the season if he stays fit. I think Bapstite will get moved on and we will say goodbye again to Ghoddos.
 

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The league next season will be a lot stronger in my opinion. I just hope we have better luck with injuries so we can actually enjoy watching our best players week in week out.

If we have that we'll be fine but I don't see us finishing more than 2 or 3 places above where where we'll likely end up this season.
 

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Injuries are part of life we hope next season isn't nearly as bad and hopefully we have better squad depth to cope with these and players losing form. The key to next season is keeping Thomas Frank as manager and Mbeumo as our main goal scorer and provider. Happy with any position outside the bottom three next season the PL is brutal and the teams coming up aren't the fodder quality like Sheffield United, Luton and Burnley
 

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cm_851 said:
After securing another season of Premier League football all bar the shouting I’m feeling really optimistic about kicking on next season so what should we be realistically be aiming for?

Assuming we don’t have another season of countless injuries we already have a squad capable of challenging the very best in the league. It’s no coincidence that since we have, not just a starting eleven of first choice players but squad real depth we have shown how good we can be, but with the added extra of KLP, Damsgaard, Collins etc all getting more game time and finally looking like they’ve settled into proper Premier League players can we start to aim for European football with one or two quality signings?

How does everyone see next season shaping up and what do we need to get to the next level? One things for sure, this club is not satisfied with just making sure we are in the Premier League each season.
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Top 10 and 10th is not a failure.
Survival is the name of the game and winning or drawing over 50% of games is a good return.
Some of our squad may well leave before next season and the hard job of replacing them occurs so the actual squad could well alter by the end of August.
This season we have done very well and take it as a success.
 

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Squad forwards
Need to get the Toney deal done early in the window so we can move forward and the club knows how much they have added to the pot. KLP, Bryan and Wissa have shown how effective they can be and Schade looks like the injury has not done any long term damage. Mbeumo may yet get an offer the club can't turn down which would need some major managing to creste the same threat as he gives with the remaining squad. I can see Thiago being slowly introduced. Not sure if the club needs to buy Maupay but they want extra cover.
 

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Up to about 10 days ago our Premier league recruitment was apparently crap, and we were flirting with the trap door.
Now after beating two piss poor sides on the bounce those same players are now world class and we’re all going on a European tour.
You’ve got to love the GPG.
 

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A Real Mysteron said:
Up to about 10 days ago our Premier league recruitment was apparently crap, and we were flirting with the trap door.
Now after beating two piss poor sides on the bounce those same players are now world class and we’re all going on a European tour.
You’ve got to love the GPG.
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TBF that only seems to be me, everyone else seems to be queueing up to start the Relegation Battle thread
 

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bexleybee said:
We’ve comfortably won 2 games on the bounce.

Against prime relegation fodder. As you say let’s not get carried away. Get the first 35 points on the board and see where we go from there

I expect lazy journos and YouTuber types to have us predicted bottom 5. Happy to be underestimated
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Agree with not getting carried away. I'm greedy and want more than just staying up, but I will be content if that's what we get.

I don't think many will predict us in the bottom 5 but perhaps they will. I've found the Premier League predictions to be much more respecting of us than our first few years in the championship.

I'm not worried about next season, I'm intrigued about our plan for development beyond our current crop more.
 

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Tactics
This working on the basis we keep Thomas Frank which is not a given. But it would take a massive job for him to leave I reckon. Interesting thst when things were bad this season he was only under pressure from the clickbait media and X idiots. If there was a season to have an injury crisis it was this one and surely it won't be the same again. The inquest they are conducting will hopefully shed some light on things they can change. Certainly the pre season tour might have had an impact. There is pure luck involved too but the depth of the squad becomes important. We will have a new set piece coach and defensive and game management tactics need to be addressed. I can imagine if the squad is available and performing then they will look to try and keep the ball more and be more adventurous and not rely so much on a 5 3 2. With a stronger bench available Subs will play more a key part again in changing or seeing out games and not just fresh legs.
 

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We will be competing with the likes of Wolves, Bournemouth, Fulham, and Palace for 10th place I think. It is reasonable to aim higher, but unrealistic to expect us to seriously challenge for top 8. I look for vastly improved home form and am hoping for a famous away win at either Anfield, Emirates, or Old Trafford. It would be nice to have a cup run but we don't take the LC seriously and Brentford don't do FA cups.
 

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We are a top half side when we have all our players fit - I have no doubts about that. Some judicious strengthening in the summer, keep everyone but Toney and we should be there or thereabouts for a European place. I am pretty sure that is what the club is targeting.
 

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A Real Mysteron said:
Up to about 10 days ago our Premier league recruitment was apparently crap, and we were flirting with the trap door.
Now after beating two piss poor sides on the bounce those same players are now world class and we’re all going on a European tour.
You’ve got to love the GPG.
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Just the nature of most football fans. I blame the tabloids / clickbait journalism for constantly turning everything into an extreme.
 

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Overall outlook. Unlike other teams around us we have a budget to play with and a long term strategy and plan. We may get more investment if Benham sells some of his share of the club. Giles, Benham and Frank can now develop their plans knowing that are pretty much in the PL next season.
As others have mentioned the financial issues for some clubs are likely to go into next season. Ideally you would like Ipswich and Norwich/West Brom to come up as they are less likely to be more of a challenge as Leeds and Southampton but Brentford should not be looking at just surviving. It does mean being better than a good number of teams but some will dip from this season too. If Brentford are able to keep the Championship spine of Henry, Pinnock, Norgaard and Mbeumo along with Janelt and Jensen for one more season but take the opportunity to ease in the new generation then I think it will be fairly positive. But a lot of work over the summer to get it in place.
 

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We look likely to finish this season above three championship quality teams and two with points deductions, so with potentially two decent sides coming up we are going to have to up our game considerably. Injuries and other absences have obviously been a major factor, but I can't see us better than low mid table again. That in itself is an achievement, and provided we entertain and get a few good results against the top teams I'll be happy enough.
 

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A Real Mysteron said:
Up to about 10 days ago our Premier league recruitment was apparently crap, and we were flirting with the trap door.
Now after beating two piss poor sides on the bounce those same players are now world class and we’re all going on a European tour.
You’ve got to love the GPG.
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Agree - but we have to remember the style of play we've developed over those last two games. By the end of today we were starting to show signs of playing the way Thomas said he wanted to develop this season. If we can keep that going and get to his possession-based fast attacking ideas we'll be OK - and a pleasure to watch.
*might even make the rest of the league think we're a football team after all!
 

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I think had we had a little more luck with injuries this season we could have have realistically improved on last season’s position. Even leaving aside Newcastle who’ve had at least as significant an injury crisis would this full strength squad not have been as good as Man U, West Ham, Chelsea?

Of course, in the PL you have to improve even to stand still so next season will be hard if we don’t add quality and depth. Chelsea and Man U surely will improve. But I don’t think our hope for this season can’t continue into next. I suspect the football department will be aiming for top 6 and who am I to tell them not to be so silly? Even if another midtable season with relegation ruled out with at least a handful of games to go and some good wins would again be quite acceptable to me.
 

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A Real Mysteron said:
Up to about 10 days ago our Premier league recruitment was apparently crap, and we were flirting with the trap door.
Now after beating two piss poor sides on the bounce those same players are now world class and we’re all going on a European tour.
You’ve got to love the GPG.
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It is about the depth of squad we had this season. Look at the bench we had for Palace away. The club took a big risk to not go wild in January and just wait until the players returned. They also saw that apart from a few games such as West Ham away that in 2024 Brentford have generally put in a performance and been in games. They knew they were letting in too many goals from crosses which seems something they looked at in the International break.
 

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randello said:
It is about the depth of squad we had this season. Look at the bench we had for Palace away. The club took a big risk to not go wild in January and just wait until the players returned. They also saw that apart from a few games such as West Ham away that in 2024 Brentford have generally put in a performance and been in games. They knew they were letting in too many goals from crosses which seems something they looked at in the International break.
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I guess, given how we're finishing, not paying for over priced players in January was the right thing to do. Reguillon probably the most important signing of the season, not because he's brilliant but because we were absolutely desperate for an experienced left back.
 

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Mid-table and cutting out the powder puff goals conceded would be fine by me. I like the added sh*thousery as well, which is a bit of an art to perfect at this level, what with so many cameras and TV "analysis" etc.
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
I guess, given how we're finishing, not paying for over priced players in January was the right thing to do. Reguillon probably the most important signing of the season, not because he's brilliant but because we were absolutely desperate for an experienced left back.
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Yes having Ghoddos as left back was unsustainable and Frank had one thing he needed from that window and that wad a full back that could the job. Even Sergio needed time to work with the team. His West Ham performance and Burnley mishap were not helpful but since his suspension he had been a real asset. One benefit or the bare bone squad has been to see that KLP learn to be a wing back f needed. Not that we want him there but if there is a situation where it is needed he can fit in l.
 

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Injuries have been the headline of the season. If we keep our squad majority fit next season I think a top half finish would be incredible again. I do think we'll miss Toney and Reguilon way more than others think too.

I do wonder what changes to stop all these injuries happening again. Are they freak injuries? Or are they part of our recruitment policy? Are these gems we go for (Norgaard, Jensens, Damsgarrds, Ajers etc) possible/affordable because others don't take risks because of their injury record? It's obviously not the whole story but possibly a contributing factor.

Flekken
Hickey Collins Pinnock Henry
Damsgaard Norgaard Jensen
Mbeumo Thiago Schade

I think that's the idea next season with Wissa, KLP, YY, Ajer and probably a signing or 2 as the changes.

For me with the team above: top half finish is amazing, top 14 is realistic and still a great achievement, relegation is disappointing.
 

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We'd probably be about where Brighton are if we had a fully fit squad. Bad luck but we've come through it.

We'll lose one or two in the summer but add one or two as well. With a little better luck injury wise (which won't exactly be hard) we should have a very fun campaign next year. Not saying Europe, not ruling it out, but it should be a lot more fun than this one either way. I'm looking forward to it!
 

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Every season since I started supporting the super bees at school and going to stand in the Royal Oak I start with the believe that we can win this league so I see no reason to change that for next season . If Leicester can do it so can Brentford.
 
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I'll take a top half finish, but with our young squad (particularly the growth of KLP, Mikel Damsgaard and Yarmo) we could achieve magical things next season. We must keep hold of Mbeumo though as I fear the vultures will be circling....get him on a contract extension
 

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In my opinion we need a couple or 3 players in, a FB cover, another CH and AMF.
Think Goode, Baptiste, Ghoddos,Strakosha and Zanka will be released.
Keep Maupay as cover, but only for 4m or less.
Mee and DaSilva offer new 1 yr contracts, especially Mee would be good for future defensive coach.
 

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Ashford Bees said:
I'll take a top half finish, but with our young squad (particularly the growth of KLP, Mikel Damsgaard and Yarmo) we could achieve magical things next season. We must keep hold of Mbeumo though as I fear the vultures will be circling....get him on a contract extension
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I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool sell Salah to Saudi and look for Brian as a potential replacement.
 
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randello said:
Squad
Defence
I don't see Zanka getting a new contract.
Sergio coming here is extremely unlikely.
Mee might get a year contract. But I would see this as the new Zanka covering role when we are short of our starting centre backs.
Hickey probably won't get snapped up and will need a good pre season to get the fitness going. Ideally will miss the Scotland squad.
Henry hopefully will have pretty much a full pre season and fingers crossed he has not lost anything of pace and skills.

Be interesting to see if our B team centre backs (Thinking Ji Soo and Frederick) getting into the mix.

We certainly need some full back cover so we don't end up like Palace away and relying on Ghoddos trying his best to deal with Olise.
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Doesn't Zanka have a year left?
 
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