Noades - Lovable rogue?

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Noades - Lovable rogue?

I have just read an article on the front page of the GPG which describes Ron Noades as a lovable rogue! What planet are you on Banana? All rogue yes, but nothing lovable about him at all. Ok he got us promoted from the very division we are in right now, but if he had had his way we would be playing at Kingstonian, or Feltham Arena, or the Western International market, or Woking. Plus he left us millions in debt. An asset stripper of the first order, that will be my abiding memory of Noades.
 

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Next you'll be telling me that Haynes is wrong and Roquefort is not Terry Bullivant's favourite cheese :cry:
 

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p.s. You're gonna love "120 Years of Brentford" when it appears :sorted:
 

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............................absolutely.....................
 

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Slatts: need new parts for your sarcasm filter?
 

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Banana said:
p.s. You're gonna love "120 Years of Brentford" when it appears :sorted:
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What epithet, or perhaps oxymoron, can we look forward to for Mr. W£bb in said publication? Appetite duly whetted...
 

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I looked in the reference books I have access to on scoundrels and cads and its true,Mister Noades is listed on the loveable rogues page along with the following:

Pol Pot
Adolf Hitler
Genghis Khan
Attila the Hun
Fred West
Peter Sutcliffe
and Saddam Hussein
 

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Noades is the biggest **** on the planet FACT.
 

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i hope that description is just an excuse to get debate on a thread going! that is way wide of the mark! or are you worried about being sued if you print what we all think (honestly held opinion and not actually harming someone's reputation defences readily available in that regard!)

i wonder if "lovable rogue" is actually an anagram of cucking funt?
 

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VTG said:
Yeh, just like Gretna :rolleyes: You have to live within your means.
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Big Difference between Brentford under Noades and Gretna the bloke who bankrolled Gretna is very Ill and sadly Noades isnt.
 

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ahh yes but the gretna bod is ill medically. Noades is sick pathologically, and mentally
 

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YorkBee said:
Big Difference between Brentford under Noades and Gretna the bloke who bankrolled Gretna is very Ill and sadly Noades isnt.
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He hasn't bankrolled Gretna otherwise they would not be in administration. :)
 

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Er, yes he has. The problem, as I understand it, is that Brooks Mileson is unable to run his businesses, following a serious viral brain illness, and as he personally sanctions all payments they're in deep sh*t financially. Administration buys them (and him) some time to sort things out.

I wish the guy and his team well.
 

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Nigel Brooks said:
Er, yes he has. The problem, as I understand it, is that Brooks Mileson is unable to run his businesses, following a serious viral brain illness, and as he personally sanctions all payments they're in deep sh*t financially. Administration buys them (and him) some time to sort things out.

I wish the guy and his team well.
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Note to all: If you're going to start a business, make sure you grant someone Power of Attorney.
 

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Noades only immoral act was he lied, and we all do that now and again...

He is a businessman generally and a property developer specifically. He saw some property and bought it to develop it. He lied to us in terms of his overall intentions, but it was his money, his game and therefore his rules. It has happened to other clubs before and will happen again (ask any Liverpool fan). I suggest we get over it. Moaning wont change history but it does make us look like a bunch of sad Birmingham City fans.
 

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So a multi-millionaire siphoning money out of BFC wasn't immoral, longdistancebee? You must have a different value system to me.
 

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yep, meditation over madness
 

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Hitler, Dunnett, Webb and Noades all have one thing in common...they f***ed us up big time..end of.
 

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Edmundo said:
So a multi-millionaire siphoning money out of BFC wasn't immoral, longdistancebee? You must have a different value system to me.
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' Kin right Edmundo, why does a multi-millioniare need to pay himself 180K a year. That would have payed for 2 very good players.
 

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Edmundo said:
So a multi-millionaire siphoning money out of BFC wasn't immoral, longdistancebee? You must have a different value system to me.
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Of course it wasnt immoral! I know that this is Brentford we are talking about, but to an investor and developer, it is just a business interest.
 

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longdistancebee said:
Of course it wasnt immoral! I know that this is Brentford we are talking about, but to an investor and developer, it is just a business interest.
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The contructive attempted destruction and/or relocation of a football club against the knowledge and/or wishes of all other parties involved isn't immoral then? You see that there Wimbledon FC? It could have been us. Did the idea of travelling to Woking to watch Brentford fill you with joy?
George Bush's only crime was that he lied. Numerous times and to varying degrees.

im·mor·al – adjective 1. violating moral principles; not conforming to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics.

If what Noades was trying to do wasn't a violation of social ethics, I'm not quite sure what it was instead.
 

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I've said it before but I'd have loved us to move to MK. I would currently have a 15 minute train journey to games, a Wembley trip to look forward to, a promotion to enjoy and Keith Dickens at my club.
 

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VTG said:
The contructive attempted destruction and/or relocation of a football club against the knowledge and/or wishes of all other parties involved isn't immoral then? You see that there Wimbledon FC? It could have been us. Did the idea of travelling to Woking to watch Brentford fill you with joy?
George Bush's only crime was that he lied. Numerous times and to varying degrees.

im·mor·al – adjective 1. violating moral principles; not conforming to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics.

If what Noades was trying to do wasn't a violation of social ethics, I'm not quite sure what it was instead.
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Sorry, but no. If i was in Noades position (ie., NOT a Bees fan), i would have done just the same, to whit:
* I am a wealthy property developer
* I see an opportunity to buy a piece of highly desirable land and to hopefully sell it to build a leisure-oriented development, which is how i made my money in the first place
* I have an opportunity to run a football club too, which is something else i enjoy doing
* Things change and do not go as i planned - ie., no quick and easy sale of GP and relocation to a brand-spanking new leisure precinct including my football club, so no quick and easy realising of my investment - so i look to plan B
* Plan B is to sell the available assets and possibly the ground as well, whcih will mean relocating the football club to somewhere possibly less desirable (better keep this one quiet for as long as possible....)
* The fans hate me, but it goes with the territory

And i would put it to you gentlemen, that those excellent folk on our Board and others who have loaned us money in the last 12 months to keep us afloat, probably p1ssed off a fair few people along the raod while they made said money. It is business gentlemen - get over it.
 

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markbfc said:
You're missing the point. We support a professional football club, not a toy to be played with.
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I know, I know, but we are still an asset which somebody owns. Noades is reviled because of his very dismissive attitude toward the fans and his generally unpleasant demeanour. But to slag him for just doing what he did with what is, after all, his own property, is no different from me coming to your house and pillorying you for buying a new car. Your money - you do what you want with it.

As long as football clubs are available to be bought by anyone with a big enough cheque book, then this will happen.
 

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longdistancebee said:
his own property
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Brentford FC is an asset that belongs to the fans and no one else. He may have owned the company but this is why Bees United's ownership is the best solution to stop any future financial rape. I will not "get over" what that **** did to my football club and neither should you.
 

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markbfc said:
Brentford FC is an asset that belongs to the fans and no one else. He may have owned the company but this is why Bees United's ownership is the best solution to stop any future financial rape. I will not "get over" what that **** did to my football club and neither should you.
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I'm sure all will be fully revealed in Mr Haynes next edition. :rolleyes:
 

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markbfc said:
Brentford FC is an asset that belongs to the fans and no one else. He may have owned the company but this is why Bees United's ownership is the best solution to stop any future financial rape. I will not "get over" what that **** did to my football club and neither should you.
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:imwith: There speaks the truth
 

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markbfc said:
Brentford FC is an asset that belongs to the fans and no one else. He may have owned the company but this is why Bees United's ownership is the best solution to stop any future financial rape. I will not "get over" what that **** did to my football club and neither should you.
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Majority shareholding rather than ownership with the main asset actually owned more by secured creditors.
 

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markbfc said:
Brentford FC is an asset that belongs to the fans and no one else. He may have owned the company but this is why Bees United's ownership is the best solution to stop any future financial rape. I will not "get over" what that **** did to my football club and neither should you.
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Well, maybe i take a more pragmatic viewpoint than yourself, but i can assure you that i am as pleased as a dog with two willies that we appear to have put that sort of risk behind us, and are now beginning to climb back to glory. :sorted:
 

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Gee Bee said:
Majority shareholding rather than ownership with the main asset actually owned more by secured creditors.
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Controlling ownership then. I'll find some hairs for you to split if you wish. :P
 

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longdistancebee said:
Well, maybe i take a more pragmatic viewpoint than yourself, but i can assure you that i am as pleased as a dog with two willies that we appear to have put that sort of risk behind us, and are now beginning to climb back to glory. :sorted:
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I fully understand what you're saying purely from a "look at the paperwork" perspective, but a club's owner, prospective or otherwise, must understand, as Winkleman refused to because he clearly had a plan, that the fans are the real heart of the club. Players come and go, many are revered as legends, but fans stick around for anything up to, in the late Bill Axbey's case, more than 90 years. To give a club's fans the metaphorical middle finger takes a man with some real balls and a strong vision of what he wants to do and the ability to carry it out. MK Dons are attracting over 7,000 regularly and that's largely down to Milton Keynes not having a league team previously, with plenty of catchment area around them. I certainly wouldn't have bought a season ticket if Brentford FC had been moved to Woking. I probably wouldn't still be going except on the rare occasion of a big game and I doubt the club would have received much improvement in support from the locals there either as I don't believe the town and its environs have the same draw and demographic as a place like Milton Keynes.

Having said that, I'm sure Noades doesn't sit there thinking about what could have been with that stupid little football club, so there's no real reason for us to sit around directing any further anger at that crooked old fart.

We have the prospect of a new stadium in an increasingly prosperous regenerated area to look forward to, within pissing distance of Griffin Park instead of out in the wilds of Surrey, the welcome restructuring of the club's debt and the many other good things that the Lionel Road deal will bring, so let's all turn the page and move on, eh?
 

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I'm only staying alive to have a big drink when this waanker becomes worm food.
 

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longdistancebee - I think you are confusing naked capitalism with morality. What Noades did may have been legal - it doesn't follow that that makes it moral.
 

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Edmundo said:
. What Noades did may have been legal - it doesn't follow that that makes it moral.
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Anal sex with his wife?
If so, I agree as they hate it but haven't got a hope in hell of getting you locked up for it.
 

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whatever Noads did or didn't do under We££ we were heading for the conferance.no money no hope at least we enjoyed coming to GP for a while
 
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