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Can't see that one happening, isn't he a converted RB? Well we have 2 of those already (3 including Dobson).
The Chronicle is very rarely correct when it comes to rumours, I think the Kevin doyle one is the only one they have got right in the last 2 years so I wouldn't worry about it.
We'll be after a top centre half in January and a striker, that will probably be it until the summer.
The Chronicle is very rarely correct when it comes to rumours, I think the Kevin doyle one is the only one they have got right in the last 2 years so I wouldn't worry about it.
We'll be after a top centre half in January and a striker, that will probably be it until the summer.
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Good but not irreplacable, rather them splash £100K + on Kev and let us keep Sam or get Pratley but still think that Sam moving on is inevitable.Les Beeavinu said:
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I wish Coppell and the Scummers would f**k off and leave the rest of our players alone. F**k me if they get in the premiers**t then there will be all these C**ts in Berkshire coming out of the woodwork with Scummer shirts on. 
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steve bee said:I wish Coppell and the Scummers would f**k off and leave the rest of our players alone. F**k me if they get in the premiers**t then there will be all these C**ts in Berkshire coming out of the woodwork with Scummer shirts on.
That's more restrained than my reaction!
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steve bee said:I wish Coppell and the Scummers would f**k off and leave the rest of our players alone. F**k me if they get in the premiers**t then there will be all these C**ts in Berkshire coming out of the woodwork with Scummer shirts on.
some would say there is too many already that werent around when i first moved to berkshire...not that im being cynical...quite similar to the rise of the chelsea fan and the decline of arsenal and manutd fans...
as for Kev, i cant see him being good enough to play in the premiership...seems an odd choice since reading should really be looking to sign players with premiership experience...
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I find it quite ironic, because when Coppell was in charge at Brentford he always said that the players gained better results than their individual talents should have achieved.
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i'd rather have our players linked with other clubs, than they not be good enough.....
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Simon C said:
Fits with rumour I heard was that Dobbo had gone there to get match fit as part of the deal to take KOC to Reading, hence Dobbos comes back and slots into our side.
Like others though it doesn't add up if Reading were looking at the level of players needed for the Premiershite. Much as I admire KOC he is not really in that category of "highly rated" and ready for top level.
......but then again this is Coppell!
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Stanley said:
I heard the same rumour from a fellow S/T holder who knows Hutch's dad (tenuous I know). AFAIK Dobbo has only played two reserve games since he has been there which whilst it is two more than he would have played for us doesn't seem to be a great boost to his fitness levels
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Wish it were true but can't really see it myself, doesn't excel enough for us to be anywhere near prem standard.beesbeesbarmyarmy said:
IMHO didn't compare favourably with the outstanding right back for Chesterfield on Saturday Picken whose only 21 and on loan from Man U to get experience.
Certainly done a good job for us but passing is erratic at times and he still gets skinned occasionally, championship at best I would think.
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sonofabee said:
Agreed !
If Kevin had more pace it might be different but let's not forget Neil Clement who was dreadful for us but went on to the Prem with The Baggies
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sonofabee said:
I agree with what you are saying, but he is in a poor vain of form at the moment. When on form he has coped with everything thrown at him in this division, and I feel he deserves a chance to try his hand at a higher level, champ and then prem.
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Hope you're right, good lad, great servant to the club, just think there's a fair few players better than Kev in league 1 and the championship who I wouldn't expect to command a regular place in a premiership side.beesbeesbarmyarmy said:
Personally I think that if Turner had a wee bit more pace he'd cope in the premiership and Tabby playing in a free role with better players around him might well excel.
Think he's been asked to be a jack of all trades and too much of a flexible workhorse until very recently and as a result his form has suffered. When he came into the side the pressure and expectations weren't there and he just picked up the ball and ran with it taking on and going past defenders. Players who can do that at any level are a valuable commodity and at worst a good option for a premiership manager chasing a game.
Having said that I'm not sure how important he is to MA and he hasn't set the world alight apart from in flashes so I fear that a fairly local championship side may well attempt to pick him up on the cheap.
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**** off coppell, you are trying to destroy us.
Can see reading bottling it this year anyway which that gutless **** in charge, wouldnt be the first time he throew it away when it was sown up. Coppell the kenny lunt
Can see reading bottling it this year anyway which that gutless **** in charge, wouldnt be the first time he throew it away when it was sown up. Coppell the kenny lunt
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This KOC rumour is in League Paper.
As is a star guest article by Steve Hunt.
As is BBC Sodje family Xmas.
As is MA discussing fans v players match.
As is Sammy saying cup run won`t stop us getting promoted.
As is a star guest article by Steve Hunt.
As is BBC Sodje family Xmas.
As is MA discussing fans v players match.
As is Sammy saying cup run won`t stop us getting promoted.
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Although KO'C has made big strides in the last 2 seasons and is a reliable right back and penalty taker, he's not irreplaceable, and IF so many clubs are supposedly after him, I'd say let's get as much as we can for him. This could be an ideal opportunity to see some decent funds in.
The only scenario I don't want to see is him going for an absolute pittance, thank U very much
The only scenario I don't want to see is him going for an absolute pittance, thank U very much
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sussexb said:
I think KOC is an excellent footballer. He has lots of attributes; ok techncially, intelligent, consistent, reasonable pace, good going forward and backwards. I think he'd be an attribute to any side at our level or the Championship.
Good quality full backs are hard to come by. I can't recall too many better right backs at BFC in recent years.
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Les Beeavinu said:
very true, i think he's brilliant but there is no way he would cut it in the priemer league.Imagine owen,robben,camara,henry just charging past him!lol
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Kevs not good enuff yet to play for these teams mentioned .He hasnt enough pace to be a really top player .Cant see what all the fuss is about .
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Bigbee said:
He's not Premiership class I agree. Gary Neville gets away with not having too much pace though.
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KOC is very similar to Gary Neville who does well coming foward and perhaps not always so good defending.Kevin will improve at a higher level,he is a natural footballer.I'll want £400k for him.Les Beeavinu said:
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id be very very happy if we got anything near to 400k for him, i think he wont be too hard to replace
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Really!Well considering that we have no money,name me a player we can afford.hanworthbee said:
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Thought i`d check out TeamTalk for the true facts re the latest speculation 
But they seem to have turned semi-sensible (judging by top stories)
http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,1816_904537,00.html
But they seem to have turned semi-sensible (judging by top stories)
http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,1816_904537,00.html
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Canadian Bee said:
Kev is a good player but not spectacular, if we got anything near 400k we would have 75% of that left if we bought a replacement thats as good.
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I think we would be lucky to get away with replacing all the players that have been linked with a move, especially as three of them are defenders, in Turner, Oconnor and Sodje. One perhaps we could cope with moving Framps into middle and playing Tillen at left back, but to lose more than one would be a disaster and i think we could wave goodbye to a promotion campaign!
However time will tell and after all there has been speculation surrounding some of these players for some time.
However time will tell and after all there has been speculation surrounding some of these players for some time.
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you really think we would actully see that money?we're 8 mil in debt for christ's sake and you think we'll actully have money to spend!sussexb said:
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i think the board would give us some of the money to pay for a replacement, they know how important it is to have a successful team on the pitch as much as we do.
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Canadian Bee said:
As Hanworthbee says - i think we'd get a small bit of the fee received to replace KOC if he went. So yes, I do. I also think that we could get a RB as good as Kev fairly easily.
Tabb or Sodje would, imo, be much harder to replace. Especially tabby.
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This could lead to an interesting tme for BU. Two weeks into the job and MA knocking on the door asking if now's a good time to talk about the player budget. 
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To be honest i forgot about free's but i still do'n't think we'll be spending money on new players
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If we would happen to get promoted this season, I would be happy to pencil Kev O'Connor in as right back right now, I think he could play Championship level tomorrow. In some ways I feel the better standard of football & passing game (less hoof) would actually suit him better. Premiership class I'm less sure, but I wouldn't write him off.
Having said that, I agree that with an old head like Michael Dobson & an up & coming like John Mousinho, we could pretty comfortably cope with his loss, which is not the case in certain other positions.
Having said that, I agree that with an old head like Michael Dobson & an up & coming like John Mousinho, we could pretty comfortably cope with his loss, which is not the case in certain other positions.
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There is no chance that we will get 400k for Kev. Somewhere in the region of 50k would be my estimate.hanworthbee said:
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Ruislip Red said:There is no chance that we will get 400k for Kev. Somewhere in the region of 50k would be my estimate.
Well, if that's the case then I wouldnt sell him.. KOC has been improving year in year out and is turning into one of the best, most consistent players at the club.. He was already becoming a very solid right back defensively last season but this year he's started making some excellent runs forward, perfectly timed. I don't think he'd have any trouble fitting into a Championship side, he may not have great pace but he more than makes up for that with his technique and his ability to read the game. I think we'd definitely notice the difference if Dobbo came back in....