Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

According to Understat, we’re just over par in terms of “Justice League” 14.21pts vs Premier League 13pts.

Striking by how much both North London clubs (although Arsenal still top on xPts) , Bournemouth, Sunderland, Villa & Burnley have outperformed their expected points. Spurs, Sunderland & Villa all bottom half of JL.

On performance data, (dirty) Leeds, not Sunderland, should be the story of the promoted clubs. Let’s see how it plays out over the season.

 

Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

If you like all things xG, how about this: Actual Goal Difference vs. Expected Goal Difference after 9 games (from Understat):

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Our GD is 0, whereas it "should" have been +3.82, but the unbelievable numbers are Burnley and Spurs far outperforming expectations, with Wolves and Leeds the opposite. Hence Burnley's position at the bottom of 'justice leagues' and Leeds near the top.
 

Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

If you like all things xG, how about this: Actual Goal Difference vs. Expected Goal Difference after 9 games (from Understat):

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Our GD is 0, whereas it "should" have been +3.82, but the unbelievable numbers are Burnley and Spurs far outperforming expectations, with Wolves and Leeds the opposite. Hence Burnley's position at the bottom of 'justice leagues' and Leeds near the top.
... rather than the simpler explanation of the Leeds No. 9 being Calvert-Lewin.
 

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Now the 19th best team in the WORLD

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Impressive. I'm pretty sure the highest we ever made it in the 538 global ranking was 20th, when their rankings were abolished at the end of 22/23. I think we were 20th in the last ever table they published in fact.

Only 12th best team in the PL even so... huge PL domination.

Our two wins have moved us from about 10% chance of relegation to 1.96%.
 

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where is the prediction for last year for comparison?
 

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Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

They'd have Leeds and Fulham instead of Wolves and West Ham.

Leeds I’ll accept, but Putney’s one of the best days out of the season, so that’s not for me, Clive :nono:
 

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:sleep::sleep: I look at the PL table after we play which is the best version of the truth not some OpTa or Justice league sh*t people (the usual suspects) keep on going about.
 

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:sleep::sleep: I look at the PL table after we play which is the best version of the truth not some OpTa or Justice league sh*t people (the usual suspects) keep on going about.
The usual suspects being the club owner and director of football.

Still, I’m sure you know better 👍
 

Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

The usual suspects being the club owner and director of football.

Still, I’m sure you know better 👍
Yes I can see them looking at the justice league that YOU are so fond off ahead of the PL table after each Brentford game. Pls don’t write another essay how our club is data driven - I know this sh*t 😊
 

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Yes I can see them looking at the justice league that YOU are so fond off ahead of the PL table after each Brentford game
Wouldn’t it be horrifically embarrassing for you if there was a video of Phil Giles saying that we ignore the league table because that’s not how we judge our success.
 

Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

:sleep::sleep: I look at the PL table after we play which is the best version of the truth not some OpTa or Justice league sh*t people (the usual suspects) keep on going about.
Oh dear. Are you new around here? This is probably the most awkward post by someone that pretends to know what they are talking about,
 

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Wouldn’t it be horrifically embarrassing for you if there was a video of Phil Giles saying that we ignore the league table because that’s not how we judge our success.
Maybe there's a GPG interview with the owner of the club too that, er, make Indian Bee look like someone that doesn't have a clue.
 

Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

Wouldn’t it be horrifically embarrassing for you if there was a video of Phil Giles saying that we ignore the league table because that’s not how we judge our success.
I wouldn’t find it embarrassing at all 😊
 

Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

Wouldn’t it be horrifically embarrassing for you if there was a video of Phil Giles saying that we ignore the league table because that’s not how we judge our success.
We do the same at the Council just ignore the government performance standards and pat ourselves on the back saying what a great job we all do 👍
 

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I'll be interested to know are we top 6 in the Justice league ??
 

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ha ha how will Wolves get 29 points this season ? I am not even sure Wolves fans believe this ..... what a load of tosh.
2 points after 10 games. They will be lucky to get to double figures.
 

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... rather than the simpler explanation of the Leeds No. 9 being Calvert-Lewin.
It's like when everyone was worried how we'd replace Toney (and then how we'd replace Bryan and Wissa). Everyone wondered how Leeds would replace Bamford but hey, they've done it. They've only gone and done it.
 

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So in essence we should have scored more and conceded less than we have which would have lead to 3 more points - hopefully we revert to the xPTS across the whole season and we could be in for another exciting finale just like last season...
 

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An xG look including non penalty xG which is interesting IMO
 

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I am still worrying about replacing Roger Cross...
 

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Now in the European places

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Like a rare near complete solar eclipse both “there’s only one league table that counts” and “trust the underlying performance data” camps are aligning. 7th in the EPL table and 6th in the Justice League, with a small Points and Expected Points delta.
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Aston Villa and Sunderland continue to out point their performances. Indicates they’ve won games they should have drawn and drawn games they should have lost - we have first hand experience of this with Sunderland (A). Let’s not repeat it on Weds.

Conversely, Leeds are actually better than the points they’ve gained (no tears shed here) and Wolves continue to be bad but nowhere near as terrible as their points total.

5th - 16th so tight that small difference in Ponits and XPoints creating substantial divergence between EPL & Justice table positions.
 

Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

Like a rare near complete solar eclipse both “there’s only one league table that counts” and “trust the underlying performance data” camps are aligning. 7th in the EPL table and 6th in the Justice League, with a small Points and Expected Points delta.
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Aston Villa and Sunderland continue to out point their performances. Indicates they’ve won games they should have drawn and drawn games they should have lost - we have first hand experience of this with Sunderland (A). Let’s not repeat it on Weds.

Conversely, Leeds are actually better than the points they’ve gained (no tears shed here) and Wolves continue to be bad but nowhere near as terrible as their points total.

5th - 16th so tight that small difference in Ponits and XPoints creating substantial divergence between EPL & Justice table positions.

Only 18 teams showing ?
 

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Only 18 teams showing ?
How I was able to screenshot it on my phone.
West Ham & Burnley (in that order) below Wolves when ranked by XPoints.
Link at bottom of my previous post should you want to go to the source.
 

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How I was able to screenshot it on my phone.
West Ham & Burnley (in that order) below Wolves when ranked by XPoints.
Link at bottom of my previous post should you want to go to the source.

Thank you, should have realised that those two teams would be below Wolves
 

Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

Like a rare near complete solar eclipse both “there’s only one league table that counts” and “trust the underlying performance data” camps are aligning. 7th in the EPL table and 6th in the Justice League, with a small Points and Expected Points delta.

Good evidence of the old saw about long term data trends aligning: 7th in the table, 6th in the justice league, 5th in xGF, 6th in xGA, 8th in home xPTS, 5th in away xPTS (!)

As you say, let's hope Sunderland revert to their 'true' posiition: 17th in justice league, 19th in xGF, 13th in xGA, 15th in away xPTS. Interesting that their away goals conceded (11; =3rd) is miles better than their 16 xGA away. Hopefully we'll put those numbers right on Wednesday.
 

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Like a rare near complete solar eclipse both “there’s only one league table that counts” and “trust the underlying performance data” camps are aligning.
It's called reversion to the mean. Now that more games have been played, it stands to reason that there's convergence.
 
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17% chance of Europe
Fulham are 20x more likely to get relegated than us
Spurs are 22x more likely to get relegated than us!

UECL is 0% for all as that's where the League Cup winners go, until it's evident that it will be won by a team that qualifies for Europe by league position.

Also, I suspect that the 6.27% assumes there are 4 CL places, when it is likely that England will get 5 CL places. It which case our chances of CL next season are 17% (6.29% of Top 4 + 10.41% for 5th place)



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Opta Expected Table (Week v Week)

17% chance of Europe
Fulham are 20x more likely to get relegated than us
Spurs are 22x more likely to get relegated than us!

UECL is 0% for all as that's where the League Cup winners go, until it's evident that it will be won by a team that qualifies for Europe by league position.

Also, I suspect that the 6.27% assumes there are 4 CL places, when it is likely that England will get 5 CL places. It which case our chances of CL next season are 17% (6.29% of Top 4 + 10.41% for 5th place)



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West Ham 7726 times more likely to get relegated than us 🤣
 
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