Our injuries

[Mads Bee]

Frampton, Charles and Tomlin ???? :sad:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/4786317.stm

 

[wanderer paul]

this is the point to where we'll see if the squad is able to take injuries and whether the younger inexperienced players can make the step up. I think they can and will be supporting them from the off.

 

[maddogging]

this is the point to where we'll see if the squad is able to take injuries and whether the younger inexperienced players can make the step up. I think they can and will be supporting them from the off.

not sure if any of the inexperienced players would get a go, if those injuries were correct, sure Leroy would go

Nellie
O'Connor Heywood Griffiths Tillen
Brooker Skulason Pinault Rhodes
Moore Kuffour

 

[abee]

On the subject of injuries has anyone heard where we are at (if anywhere) with claiming Lloyds wages from the Ghana FA. He will effectively be out of commission for seven months or so we are told (May-December) and surely the insurance monies would cover a decent loan striker outside the playing budget.

And I don't believe the "Ghana doesn't have insurance" stories........

1) BFC should have had this nailed down before he was released to play

and

2) I very much doubt that if Essien had been injured and out of contention for seven months from Tuesday night Chelsea would have been laughing off his £70k a week wages and filing it under "sh*t happens".

 

[rebus]

2) I very much doubt that if Essien had been injured and out of contention for seven months from Tuesday night Chelsea would have been laughing off his £70k a week wages and filing it under "sh*t happens".

:thetruth:

 

[Simon C]

Would Ghana be liable for BFC screwing up his initial treatment?

 

[abee]

Would Ghana be liable for BFC screwing up his initial treatment?

I have no idea.

I assume that BFC would have immediately lodged a claim and then waited for instructions from the insurance company.......of course if they didn't do that then as you seem to suggest they would have left themselves open to the "It wouldn't have been as bad as this if he had had the correct treatment from the off" response.

Newcastle has an issue with the FA as I understand that the FA insurance only covers wages of up to £50k per week and Michael Owen costs Newcastle £100k per week. West Ham have reportedly slapped in a claim for Dean Ashton and he broke his ankle in training not actually playing.

If Owusu is unavailable for selection through the end of the year then we are probably talking about up to £70k (including NI payments) and as I have said that's not to be sneezed at in our present financial situation.

Perhaps Joe Bourke could give us an update as I cannot believe that it's so confidential that the "smelly socks" can't be told.

 

[Banana]

Re Ghana and Owusu

I understand that the club are talking to FIFA now as it's impossible to get any sense out of the Ghana FA. Apparently FIFA can help but ONLY IF it was a FIFA game (or FIFA sanctioned game or whatever).

 

[abee]

Re Ghana and Owusu

I understand that the club are talking to FIFA now as it's impossible to get any sense out of the Ghana FA. Apparently FIFA can help but ONLY IF it was a FIFA game (or FIFA sanctioned game or whatever).

Well that's interesting......you seem to suggest that Ghana FA is duckin' and divin'........how do we always seem to get ourselves into these situations. I just cannot see Peter Kenyon wringing his hands and saying to Chelsea fans....."I just can't get any sense out of the Ghana FA......." and then bursting into tears.

 

[hobbsy]

Re Ghana and Owusu

I understand that the club are talking to FIFA now as it's impossible to get any sense out of the Ghana FA. Apparently FIFA can help but ONLY IF it was a FIFA game (or FIFA sanctioned game or whatever).

I understood that FIFA have a $6M fund for this sort of thing. Although that might have only been for the world cup.

 

[Banana]

http://www.theworldgame.com.au/epl/index.php?pid=st&cid=72614&section=st&tid=32

FIFA have set up a special fund for this World Cup to deal with claims for serious injuries, and Owen's case will be decided on at the end of the tournament.

"We have a special insurance fund of £6million ($A14.4million) for cases of this kind," Blatter said.

 

[Wee Dave]

Surely with your theoretical Essien situation Ghana would be even more likely to duck and dive.

 

[Banana]

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0600...sh-row-may-spell-end-for-wales-name_page.html

FIFA cash row may spell end for Wales

Aug 13 2006

Andy Rose, Wales on Sunday


WELSH football faces financial ruin and the international team will be axed.

That is the stark warning from FAW chief David Collins who predicts the end of international football as we know it if a group of European super clubs have their way.

The G14 group, which represents 18 of the world's most powerful club sides, is supporting a case currently being fought against FIFA by Belgian side Charleroi.

Charleroi are suing football's world governing body over an injury sustained by one of their players while on international duty with Morocco two years ago which, it is claimed, cost the club European qualification and millions of Euros.

 

[halifaxbee]

Just back from training ground - Add Masters and Griffiths to injury list

 

[Banana]

Just back from training ground - Add Masters and Griffiths to injury list

No sub keeper then? Suppose it worked in the Blackpool game :shrug:

 

[Mads Bee]

Just back from training ground - Add Masters and Griffiths to injury list

So no Frampton, Charles and Griffiths....our defence is ????

 

[maddogging]

Just back from training ground - Add Masters and Griffiths to injury list

ohh eck, Karleigh Osbourne up against Beckett/Abbott/Booth/Taylor-Fletcher, suppose he has to start somewhere !

 

[Bush Tuckerman]

BFC Innovation

Looks like we've come up with an inovative way of dealing with our injuries!!

A surgery in the Princess Royal

http://www.brentfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10421~883488,00.html

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Looks like we've come up with an inovative way of dealing with our injuries!!

A surgery in the Princess Royal

http://www.brentfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10421~883488,00.html

It's for supporters stoopid. I'm be asking for someone to look at my dodgy knee tomorrow.

 

[North London Bee]

I think the game was against a German club team so I would be amazed if FIFA will get involved. I suspect that we can sing for our compensation money.

 

[abee]

I think the game was against a German club team so I would be amazed if FIFA will get involved. I suspect that we can sing for our compensation money.

I suspect that you are correct.

I just do not understand how we get ourselves into these situations. Was there no one who said "What's the insurance situation if it all goes wrong".......shouldn't the club secretary be on top of this stuff and before releasing players show me the insurance policy......is it a "Deal Or No Deal".........

 

[Edmundo]

Well that's interesting......you seem to suggest that Ghana FA is duckin' and divin'........how do we always seem to get ourselves into these situations. I just cannot see Peter Kenyon wringing his hands and saying to Chelsea fans....."I just can't get any sense out of the Ghana FA......." and then bursting into tears.

And you don't think Chelski have access to teh funds to take this through the courts? Even if we have a rock-solid case, we would still need to find the readies for the lawyers.

 

[abee]

And you don't think Chelski have access to teh funds to take this through the courts? Even if we have a rock-solid case, we would still need to find the readies for the lawyers.

I suggest that Chelsea are organised enough to know exactly where they stand. I'll give £1000 to Bees United if anyone can prove to me that Chelsea released Essien this week without knowing exactly where they stood insurance wise if he got injured.

The old business maxim......."Don't tell me how wonderful it all is.....tell me what's the worst that could happen to me if it all goes wrong" is not a bad one to live by.

 

[Gee Bee]

I suggest that Chelsea are organised enough to know exactly where they stand. I'll give £1000 to Bees United if anyone can prove to me that Chelsea released Essien this week without knowing exactly where they stood insurance wise if he got injured.

The old business maxim......."Don't tell me how wonderful it all is.....tell me what's the worst that could happen to me if it all goes wrong" is not a bad one to live by.

Certainly a few years back when a previous Insurance company I worked for wrote their risks, Chelsea would buy their own Insurance cover for players away on International duty. I assume they still do.

 

[abee]

Certainly a few years back when a previous Insurance company I worked for wrote their risks, Chelsea would buy their own Insurance cover for players away on International duty. I assume they still do.

So would I. Given the wages they pay and with the FA cover for England duty limited I understand to £50k per week Chelsea is bound to purchase "top up" insurance. With Brentford having released Owusu without seemingly having any handle on whether or not he was covered by Ghana FA insurance I hope that we have learned a rather expensive lesson.

 

[Brickie Chap]

So would I. Given the wages they pay and with the FA cover for England duty limited I understand to £50k per week Chelsea is bound to purchase "top up" insurance. With Brentford having released Owusu without seemingly having any handle on whether or not he was covered by Ghana FA insurance I hope that we have learned a rather expensive lesson.

Yes and as a result, Joe Bourke has been granted League and FA Cup Final tickets for this season as well

 

[Youngbee2]

Charleroi are suing football's world governing body over an injury sustained by one of their players while on international duty with Morocco two years ago which, it is claimed, cost the club European qualification and millions of Euros.

Could we sue claiming it cost us promotion?

 

[Salford Bee]

Frampton will be out between a month and 2 months more likely nearer 2 months

 

[Gee Bee]

So would I. Given the wages they pay and with the FA cover for England duty limited I understand to £50k per week Chelsea is bound to purchase "top up" insurance. With Brentford having released Owusu without seemingly having any handle on whether or not he was covered by Ghana FA insurance I hope that we have learned a rather expensive lesson.

You are right, we should have handle on this. Although most insurance covers would have an excess period of 60 or 90 days and with the original diagnosis being less than 3 months injury, they may not have felt it necessary to make a claim. Plus with original diagnosis being horribly inaccurate Insurers may also now be reluctant to accept any late advise claim. Obviously if we had a handle on it we would know what the cover if any was.