Player "Amnesty"

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Player "Amnesty"

Whether you're RTB, D&G, or somewhere in between, everyone must realise the run in to the end of the season is gonna be a bit hairy at times. So I'd like to suggest a "slagging players off" amnesty.

This is for 2 reasons:
1. It really achieves nothing in improving our chances of getting better results. (And it does transfer to fans reactions at the game).
2. It's been a truly exceptional season in terms of key players missing. And for long periods. I honestly think that any negative assessment of players from this season should be binned. Just think of the following:
Flekken: playing behind a constantly changing back 4/5. No "outball" to Rico, Hickey, Bryan, Schade, Ivan etc for vast parts of the season.
Collins: playing in a constantly changing back 4/5. No "outball" to Rico, Hickey, Bryan, Schade, Ivan etc for vast parts of the season. Playing behind a midfield missing Norgaard, Josh, Jensen etc for numerous games.
Zanka: See above
Mee: See above
Roerslev: See above
FTT: Playing in front of a constantly changing back 4/5, in a midfield missing Norgaard, Josh, Jensen and behind a forward line missing Bryan, Toney and Schade for numerous games.
KLP: Playing in a variety of positions and similarly affected by all of the above.
Wissa: Playing in a forward line missing Bryan, Toney and Schade for numerous games.

And they're just the ones that seem to have been attracting the most negative attention at various points this season.

If people can't see how difficult it must be for individuals to get the opportunity to perform to their best, when they haven't had the support of quality team mates for huge swathes of the season, then I guess I can understand a bit more why they feel the need to constantly slag them off.

Why not give them all the benefit of the doubt based on the above? And make an assessment when at least a large(r) % of first teamers are playing alongside them......
 

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rebus said:
I don’t slag players off during the match. They are fair game on here.
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How far do you take "fair game"

There is providing a fair review of a players performance and there taking the out right piss or going beyond. All the players in the current squad wear the badge with pride and give it there all.

Players that fail to give 100% are fair game.
 
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rebus said:
I don’t slag players off during the match. They are fair game on here.
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Would you agree that slagging them off on here adds to the general negative narrative about them?
Which translates to reactions at games. (Even if not by you)
 

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badgerbee said:
Would you agree that slagging them off on here adds to the general negative narrative about them?
Which translates to reactions at games. (Even if not by you)
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No. This place is not important in the scheme of things when it comes to matchdays.
 

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rebus said:
No. This place is not important in the scheme of things when it comes to matchdays.
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OK, we'll disagree on that then.
It all adds up, and can't achieve anything positive. IMHO.
But you crack on if it makes you feel better.
 

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badgerbee said:
Whether you're RTB, D&G, or somewhere in between, everyone must realise the run in to the end of the season is gonna be a bit hairy at times. So I'd like to suggest a "slagging players off" amnesty.

This is for 2 reasons:
1. It really achieves nothing in improving our chances of getting better results. (And it does transfer to fans reactions at the game).
2. It's been a truly exceptional season in terms of key players missing. And for long periods. I honestly think that any negative assessment of players from this season should be binned. Just think of the following:
Flekken: playing behind a constantly changing back 4/5. No "outball" to Rico, Hickey, Bryan, Schade, Ivan etc for vast parts of the season.
Collins: playing in a constantly changing back 4/5. No "outball" to Rico, Hickey, Bryan, Schade, Ivan etc for vast parts of the season. Playing behind a midfield missing Norgaard, Josh, Jensen etc for numerous games.
Zanka: See above
Mee: See above
Roerslev: See above
FTT: Playing in front of a constantly changing back 4/5, in a midfield missing Norgaard, Josh, Jensen and behind a forward line missing Bryan, Toney and Schade for numerous games.
KLP: Playing in a variety of positions and similarly affected by all of the above.
Wissa: Playing in a forward line missing Bryan, Toney and Schade for numerous games.

And they're just the ones that seem to have been attracting the most negative attention at various points this season.

If people can't see how difficult it must be for individuals to get the opportunity to perform to their best, when they haven't had the support of quality team mates for huge swathes of the season, then I guess I can understand a bit more why they feel the need to constantly slag them off.

Why not give them all the benefit of the doubt based on the above? And make an assessment when at least a large(r) % of first teamers are playing alongside them......
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Well said. It’s about time people laid off Murray Jones after all these years. ?

Seriously though, you have a fair point. This has been a truly exceptional season from the point of view of injuries. As you suggest, negative opinion can gain momentum when aired and supported on any social media platform. This can find its voice on match days. Whether just or not, getting on the back of players (there were examples of this on Wednesday) can never help. Unconditional support (even where perhaps not merited) is the order of the day in this run-in. It’s a bit like praising the wife’s cooking even when she’s handed you a plate of dog turd. She didn’t mean it to taste that way. She put her heart and soul into the preparation. Destroying her morale can only lead to yet poorer fair in the future.
 

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PS: Just like that Skinner and Baddiel improv. show years ago, “it’ll never work”. ?
 

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rebus said:
I don’t slag players off during the match. They are fair game on here.
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As are GPGers via the ignore option.
 

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beemused said:
Any player who reads fan forums needs their head checking
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Any players who worries about the opinions of people who cant play football on the internet needs their head checking too!

Of course we all know better than managers, coaches, directors or football, scouts etc etc.
 

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brentfordfc4ever said:
How far do you take "fair game"

There is providing a fair review of a players performance and there taking the out right piss or going beyond. All the players in the current squad wear the badge with pride and give it there all.

Players that fail to give 100% are fair game.
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I’m struggling to remember us having a player who put in less than 100% effort for many years. Sure there are some who have made regular errors or misjudgements, ones who’ve lost concentration or focus on the game plan or just been not really up to it. And there have been some who we’ve thought of as too casual/languid/uncommitted until they made us eat our words. McEachran probably the last but even he was probably just a bit too fragile rather than not trying.
 

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AB said:
I’m struggling to remember us having a player who put in less than 100% effort for many years. Sure there are some who have made regular errors or misjudgements, ones who’ve lost concentration or focus on the game plan or just been not really up to it. And there have been some who we’ve thought of as too casual/languid/uncommitted until they made us eat our words. McEachran probably the last but even he was probably just a bit too fragile rather than not trying.
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Agreed
 

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Which players read the site? Most would read Twitter and Insta etc, not sure they read a forum.

Either way, this is a discussion forum so people can be critical if that's how they feel. As long as they still support them while at the games then they're welcome to say what they want here as long as it's not abusive.

I'll only really be critical at lack of effort though. I'll never slate players like Zanka because he's not doing anything wrong, he just isn't good enough but that's not the same as lack of effort.
 

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AB said:
I’m struggling to remember us having a player who put in less than 100% effort for many years. Sure there are some who have made regular errors or misjudgements, ones who’ve lost concentration or focus on the game plan or just been not really up to it. And there have been some who we’ve thought of as too casual/languid/uncommitted until they made us eat our words. McEachran probably the last but even he was probably just a bit too fragile rather than not trying.
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I agree. Only our players who don't give 100% deserve to be called out. The last I can remember was Adam Forshaw in a home friendly just before his move to Wigan announced. I remember saying to my son at the time that he didn't seem to want to get involved in any tackles, he was either injured or getting a transfer.
I suppose new supporters from our Premier League era may question a players apparent lack of ability, but those of us who have seen our players at division 4 level are much more tolerant of the odd lack of control or misplaced pass.
 

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badgerbee said:
OK, we'll disagree on that then.
It all adds up, and can't achieve anything positive. IMHO.
But you crack on if it makes you feel better.
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I think the amount of negative posts from me is minuscule. I’m generally half glass full and looking for reasons why they are underperforming rather than putting the boot in.

This place is full of people like us in our 40s, 50s, and 60s grumbling about ticket sales. No way does that carry over into the matchday atmosphere. Anyone under this age group is treated as novel on here.
 
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horshambees said:
How about a gpgers amnesty.
We all praise each others posts wethere we agree or not.
Should be quite funny and how long will it last ?
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This is a piss take and well done to those who have laughed.
Obviously there are those who cant.
 

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sonofabee said:
Look what you started, I imagine Nana and co are having a meeting to consider what sanctions you will receive ????
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I reckon a 3 month ban(suspended of course),change of username,reduced to 6 weeks on appeal and a decent book deal turned into a film with Brad Pitt playing me as we look quite similar.
Now i know how George Davis felt?
 
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