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Ron's spin

Ron's latest message on the official site is a clear indication that he is trying to create division amongst the fans who are opposed to his sale of GP.

Lets forget the confidentiality agreement thing, it has absolutely no bearing on the future of this club. Lets concentrate instead on the facts and fiction he is spinning us as to why we need to move to Kingston.

Fact- we owe him £4m.

Fact- he will get this back in total if we sell GP.

Fact - we will make far greater losses at Kingston than we currently make at GP.

His different versions of the projected losses give me the impression that he either knows the real figures and is keen not to divulge them (possibly they dont make bad enough reading) or he just has no idea what they really are which would be a greater worry.

We have heard him spout on about losses varying from £1.25m a year to £12000 a week if you read different quotes from him during the past 12 months. Fact of the matter is that in the 4 years nearly he has been here, given that we have made nearly £2m in the transfer market and are now £4m in debt, he has presided over average operational losses of £1.5m a season.

He was quoted lst year well before the end of the season as saying the losses were £20,000 a week which is around a million. This was well before the sale of Mahon, the play off final and semi final revenue (for which his figures recently given look alarmingly low to me), the signing of the contract with Broncos and the release of 3 players and a manager whose combined wages amounted to surely nearly 300k per annum.

We also have to come another 100k for Mahon hopefully and within 12 months will be able to get 3 of the highest paid players off the payroll. )McCammon, Oli Gott and Marshall).

All in all with the new TV deal also in place earning Div 2 clubs 200k a s eason if he still insists we will lose huge amounts of money at GP then I am more than a tad confused as to how.

If we go to Kingston the low gates will finish us becauase we will have no income.

WE must stay at GP until a ground with revenue streams is available.

He only wants to sell it to get his funding back.

If he is that desperate for cash let him sell Selhurst Park and retain GP.

We are the mugs here if we buy his threats about the fans being responsible for putting the club out of business.

Martin Lange is totally right to veto the current arrangements.

This is now turning into a war against a man whose sole purpose is to get his money back.

If he is allowed to move us to Kingston he has won the war and we are dead.
 
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Excellent post, Isleworth Bee.

It deserves a new thread really, than being tucked away in the middle of this marathon thread.

Ron is a thug. My gloves are off now - i've had enough.
 

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Thank you mods for that!

Agree with the sentiments or not, the post is essential reading for all Brentford supporters.
 

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Deep down we all knew that he would get bored and stop answering the questions, It was good for a gimmick and a positive bit of spin but thats all. Behind the business IMHO he has forgotten what its like to support a football club instead of run one. I maintain what I said a few weeks ago, he has never come out and said that he supports Brentford like we do, which makes everyone think he took us on because we had a vacant managerial post or he saw a bit of money and glory. To accuse us of being rude is rather like the pot calling the kettle black. Look back at your answers, some genuine concerns were merely thrown out as rubbish. I think he should look to see why the fans dont trust you, and address those instead of being the rude arrogant man you are!
 

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Isleworth Bee said:

If we go to Kingston the low gates will finish us becauase we will have no income.

WE must stay at GP until a ground with revenue streams is available.

He only wants to sell it to get his funding back.

If he is allowed to move us to Kingston he has won the war and we are dead.

I may be wrong here, and if I am I am sure that I will soon be put right but dont Bees United see the selling of the ground as being vital to the future health of the club?

And if Noades only wanted his money back couldnt he put the club into Administration on Monday and get his wedge back that way?
 

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where are all the" no to woking" campaigners?what is the difference between moving to woking or kingston?
is it a few extra miles? is it a more awkward journey?
or is it the realisation we cannot survive at g.p.?
i cannot believe that the same people who protested against the move to woking with such passion can so redily accept a groundshare wiyh kingstonian.
if you ask me it`s b******s.
i support brentford because they represent brentford.
if we end up in a tinpot ground somewhere else, then as far as i`m concerned, it`s not brentford.
i`d much rather see a local parks match than a team purporting to be something they so obviousley are not.
move out of griffin park, and this club will die.
 

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Fact is if we go to Kingsmeadow we will die anyway unless its for a short guaranteed period, 3000 crowds and no other income stream = liquidation if for more than a season. Its all about Altonwood getting their money back and nothing to do with securing the future of this club.

As Isleworth Bee says the figures don't add up and a distinctly muddy picture is being portrayed for obvious reasons, we are just pawns in some sort of game .

This constant slagging off of individual fans is unbelievable for someone in his position and his assumption that a few adverse/ abusive postings on an Internet board portrays all fans is positively childlike.
 

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Jimbo said:


I may be wrong here, and if I am I am sure that I will soon be put right but dont Bees United see the selling of the ground as being vital to the future health of the club?

And if Noades only wanted his money back couldnt he put the club into Administration on Monday and get his wedge back that way?

I think you'll find that Bees United wont agree to a move unless a new site is signed & sealed.

Re the administration question, the only way Ron gets his money is by the proceeds from selling the ground(unless someone gifts him the money - highly unlikely). The Club's only asset is GP.
 

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its absolutely right that bees united will not agree to a move from GP until a new stadium is signed sealed and delivered. there would be greater financial losses at somewhere like kingstonian, though these would be short term, unlike staying at GP where they would continue.

early feedback from today's high street presentations/stalls suggested that bees united is having trouble attracting donations from some quarters because ron is still in the hotseat at bfc......it is known for a fact that he has upset so many people that brentford football club is currently a dirty word, whether it be with the council, the banks or the ordinary fans.

the fact is that money donated to bees united will not simply be handed over to the club, it will remain in the possession of bees united - the fans - and be used as a bargaining loan to remove altonwood from the hotseat. mr noades seems to be trying his best to criticise the intentions of the trust, witness his disparaging comments in this week's chronicle about the remarkable amount of cash raised so far.......

are there those amongst the fanbase who would prefer not to see bees united take control?
 
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