Rooney Rule

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can you explain how/why please or were you just trying to illustrate my point (above your post)?

But the posts Banana is referring to are undeniably racist? Or at the very best completely ignorant.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

Ha, talk of the devil. Like I said, how & why are they racist comments? Please explain.

 

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Like I (and banana) said, they are either a) racist or b) ignorant comments. They don't fit into any other category. The white population of london is 70%, with 60% of those white british.
To come out with a figure like 25% white, which was readjusted to 5% white by another helpful poster can be interpreted in a few ways.

1) The person thinks that whites are in the minority (when they are clearly not) so they must be ignorant.

2) The person knows that there is a white majority, but is insinuating that there are much more people of ethnic minorities then there actually are. How can this be interpreted as being anything other than racist?

Racist or Ignorant. It's one or the other.

 

[BeeHomeSoon]

But the posts Banana is referring to are undeniably racist? Or at the very best completely ignorant.

Not undeniably Racist in the slightest mate...Just misinformed of the true statistics.

In his post he did not state the statistics he quoted were a bad thing and when Ladbrooke amended his post I think Lukeybee thought he had amended them to the true statistics, when in fact he made a poor taste joke.

If he would have worded his post along the lines of...

Typical Minorities blah blah blah, there's already more of them than us blah blah blah statistics show 1% White, 99% Foreign. This is a joke we're a white country blah blah blah

I would say you had a point and he was being racist, however he didn't so to call him racist is ridiculous...

I would go with saying yes possibily it was an ignorant post but everyone can be at some point, so to dig him out is a little unfair...

Please feel free to correct me and advise where he was being undeniably racist

 

[BeeHomeSoon]

Like I (and banana) said, they are either a) racist or b) ignorant comments. They don't fit into any other category. The white population of london is 70%, with 60% of those white british.
To come out with a figure like 25% white, which was readjusted to 5% white by another helpful poster can be interpreted in a few ways.

1) The person thinks that whites are in the minority (when they are clearly not) so they must be ignorant.

2) The person knows that there is a white majority, but is insinuating that there are much more people of ethnic minorities then there actually are. How can this be interpreted as being anything other than racist?

Racist or Ignorant. It's one or the other.

You said it was undeniably racist, Why the change of record?

 

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Not undeniably Racist in the slightest mate...Just misinformed of the true statistics.

In his post he did not state the statistics he quoted were a bad thing and when Ladbrooke amended his post I think Lukeybee thought he had amended them to the true statistics, when in fact he made a poor taste joke.

If he would have worded his post along the lines of...

Typical Minorities blah blah blah, there's already more of them than us blah blah blah statistics show 1% White, 99% Foreign. This is a joke we're a white country blah blah blah

I would say you had a point and he was being racist, however he didn't so to call him racist is ridiculous...

I would go with saying yes it was an ignorant post but everyone can be at some point, so to dig him out is a little unfair...

Please feel free to correct me and advise where he was being undeniably racist

Like I said, undeniably racist or completely ignorant. I can't be bothered to choose which. Neither are good things to be.

 

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You said it was undeniably racist, Why the change of record?

I'm staying consistent with what I said in my original post.

 

[BeeHomeSoon]

Like I said, undeniably racist or completely ignorant. I can't be bothered to choose which. Neither are good things to be.

So you have never been ignorant in you life lol

The fact you have called him both of these things make you just that as you haven't exactly asked how he came to that statistic or where he got it from.

How do you know he wasn't given duff information or simply misinterprited something he had read?

Also to call someone "Undeniably Racist" seems like you pretty much made your mind up as the fact you used the word "Undeniably" screams there is no other alternative but you have added the Ignorant bit on the end to open up a get out for you if challenged...lol

 

[hanworthbee]

maybe there are more black NFL coaches than there are over here as are there many more black NFL players as a percentage to the whole squad as compared to black players as a percentage to the average 23 man squad in England?

 

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So you have never been ignorant in you life lol

The fact you have called him both of these things make you just that as you haven't exactly asked how he came to that statistic or where he got it from.

How do you know he wasn't given duff information or simply misinterprited something he had read?

Also to call someone "Undeniably Racist" seems like you pretty much made your mind up as the fact you used the word "Undeniably" screams there is no other alternative but you have added the Ignorant bit on the end to open up a get out for you if challenged...lol

I have listened to people say stuff like 'look at that school playground, barely a white child amongst them' or some fool on the weakest link answering the question 'what is the most common surname in Britain' with 'Patel?'. 'Whites are in the minority in england nowadays *snigger*'. When these types of thing are said, they are never followed with praise for multiculturalism.

If he genuinely thinks that there are 25% white londoners then there is nothing I can say other than... what a stupid person.

The person that 'corrected' him with 5% was either even more stupid, or trying to make some sort of insinuation that whites are outnumbered or there are too many ethnic groups in london. Whatever, I don't care to try to interpret it anymore.

I have been ignorant in my life. On several occasions I have told someone the wrong percentages of the gases which make up our atmosphere. A few times I got the brentford goal scorer wrong. But when talking about something as sensitive as race, I have never been so completely off the chart wrong as 25% whites in london. Or 5%. The guy must be living on a different planet!? Ronan and Banana picked this up before me, have a go at them.

 

[BeeHomeSoon]

I have listened to people say stuff like 'look at that school playground, barely a white child amongst them' or some fool on the weakest link answering the question 'what is the most common surname in Britain' with 'Patel?'. 'Whites are in the minority in england nowadays *snigger*'. When these types of thing are said, they are never followed with praise for multiculturalism.

If he genuinely thinks that there are 25% white londoners then there is nothing I can say other than... what a stupid person.

The person that 'corrected' him with 5% was either even more stupid, or trying to make some sort of insinuation that whites are outnumbered or there are too many ethnic groups in london. Whatever, I don't care to try to interpret it anymore.

I have been ignorant in my life. On several occasions I have told someone the wrong percentages of the gases which make up our atmosphere. A few times I got the brentford goal scorer wrong. But when talking about something as sensitive as race, I have never been so completely off the chart wrong as 25% whites in london. Or 5%. The guy must be living on a different planet!? Ronan and Banana picked this up before me, have a go at them.

Ronan offered him the oppotunity to explain himself. You simply labelled him something which may not be correct (people that label others as racists when it may not necessarily be true are just as bad as racists fella), which is completely ignorant of you, hence why i picked up on you. Banana is a sensitive soul.

 

[Ronan]

Ronan offered him the oppotunity to explain himself. You simply labelled him something which may not be correct (people that label others as racists when it may not necessarily be true are just as bad as racists fella), which is completely ignorant of you, hence why i picked up on you. Banana is a sensitive soul.

Think it's worth mentioning that lukeybee has taken the time to offer me a detailed response and I give him full credit for doing so

Congratulations hanworthbee on at least trying to drag it back to topic