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Sam Williams

Sam Williams

I'll give it 3 minutes:cool:
 

Sam Williams

I thought Bowditch was a good player, who was playing slightly out of position for us, on the right.
 

Sam Williams

dont think eithers what we need, Bowditch did too much fancy stuff and Williams just isnt up to it
 

Sam Williams

....................good luck to him.....................
 

Sam Williams

Looks like they are also about to sign Bowditch.
 

Sam Williams

ı am sure wecould havesigned either or both Williams or Bowditch this summer and most fans would have been quite pleased.

I think that either would have ımproved the squad and given us more options but the fact that we havent is a really good sign and shows that we are trying to be even more ambitious ın who we are tring to bring in.

Watch this space as the clock is now beginning to tick!
 

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North London Bee said:
ı am sure wecould havesigned either or both Williams or Bowditch this summer and most fans would have been quite pleased.

I think that either would have ımproved the squad and given us more options but the fact that we havent is a really good sign and shows that we are trying to be even more ambitious ın who we are tring to bring in.

Watch this space as the clock is now beginning to tick!
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I do hope you are right NLB. Agree with you totally about these two, plus Rhodes now looks like he is signing for Hudders. AS had better not let us down with who ever he is bringing in :cool:
 

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readingbee said:
I do hope you are right NLB. Agree with you totally about these two, plus Rhodes now looks like he is signing for Hudders. AS had better not let us down with who ever he is bringing in :cool:
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Is Willock still available? :P :fishing:
 

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NorthamptonBee said:
Superb today.:(
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he's a better player than Kabba IMO, i was disappointed BFC didn't pick him up. He gives you a lot more than Kabba; in passion, Williams knows where the goal is, plus he's young enough to have moved up a level again, whereas Kabba is only going one way, and thats downwards. It's a bloody shame, i liked Williams.
 

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wanderer paul said:
he's a better player than Kabba IMO, i was disappointed BFC didn't pick him up. He gives you a lot more than Kabba; in passion, Williams knows where the goal is, plus he's young enough to have moved up a level again, whereas Kabba is only going one way, and thats downwards. It's a bloody shame, i liked Williams.
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When AS decided not to for Williams, I'm sure it wasn't because Steve Kabba was an alternative. At that time, I giess he thought a fit Strevens, Elder and Jordan Rhodes were better options. Sadly, circumstances meant that those plans didn't work out.
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
When AS decided not to for Williams, I'm sure it wasn't because Steve Kabba was an alternative. At that time, I giess he thought a fit Strevens, Elder and Jordan Rhodes were better options. Sadly, circumstances meant that those plans didn't work out.
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maybe so, but the only definate in AS's plans was Strevens, although Elder was a 'quickfire' sale as the offer was too good to turn down, but Kabba as a replacement/panic buy? and Rhodes was only a 50/50, then Hudders came in to trump the offer by tripling his money. plus Clarke opting to go Blackpool didn;t help matters! Still, i thought Williams was worth a 'punt'.
 

Sam Williams

Williams is poor IMO, I didn't go today so for those of you who went might laugh at me, but I can't understand whats so good about him, I have that image of that shocking one on one miss he had in his debut, I also remember him being poor in the air, However, to give him some credit I remember him scoring a vital goal for us :)
 

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wanderer paul said:
maybe so, but the only definate in AS's plans was Strevens, although Elder was a 'quickfire' sale as the offer was too good to turn down, but Kabba as a replacement/panic buy? and Rhodes was only a 50/50, then Hudders came in to trump the offer by tripling his money. plus Clarke opting to go Blackpool didn;t help matters! Still, i thought Williams was worth a 'punt'.
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That's all hindsight though. When he had to make the decision to sign Williams, you can see the logic as to why he declined.
 

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ninebelowzero said:
Williams is poor IMO, I didn't go today so for those of you who went might laugh at me, but I can't understand whats so good about him, I have that image of that shocking one on one miss he had in his debut, I also remember him being poor in the air, However, to give him some credit I remember him scoring a vital goal for us :)
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and Kabba/Cort?

You have an opinion, but Williams is better than those two, plus he at least scored a good couple of goals, he missed a 'sitter' but then don't they all? How many has Kabba and Cort missed? More than Williams has.
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
That's all hindsight though. When he had to make the decision to sign Williams, you can see the logic as to why he declined.
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i know, but! i still believe an offer for him or Bowditch should;ve been made.

Oh well. Thats all by the by now. We have to make do with what we have unless a forward is brought in on loan this week.
 

Sam Williams

Oh yeah I agree with you, Williams is Pele compared to Cort, Better than Kabba although I think Kabba has the slightest bit of potential
 

Sam Williams

He obviously signed Kabba and Cort thinking that they were sh*t.

Williams did a job when he was here but let's not go overboard.
 

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Jimbee said:
Williams did a job when he was here but let's not go overboard.
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If I remember rightly, most were happy that Spencer was selected ahead of him on a few occasions.

Williams played very well today but we allowed them to play the ball into his feet when most teams would not and they swamped midfield to get close and support.

If he was at Brentford would one goal in seven/eight games be enough for our fans?
 

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ninebelowzero said:
Williams is poor IMO, I didn't go today so for those of you who went might laugh at me, but I can't understand whats so good about him, I have that image of that shocking one on one miss he had in his debut, I also remember him being poor in the air, However, to give him some credit I remember him scoring a vital goal for us :)
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I thought he looked class last year & he looked class today/yesterday. Bloody shame he wasn't in a Bees shirt is all I can say. We look so bloody toothless upfront it's just not true. Kabba or Williams? Let me think about that for a nano second!!!
 

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West Ealing Bee said:
If I remember rightly, most were happy that Spencer was selected ahead of him on a few occasions.
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WTF! Changed the word most to dickheads and you'll be there. Williams was Shergar compared to that carthorse Spencer!!
It wasn't hindsight or anything and I'm not going overboard but Williams showed loads last season, that hold, turn and ball to HUnt for Clarke's equaliser v Exeter was something that very few could even think of doing. Fans aren't all stupid, there was loads of pissed off replies from Northamptonshire and around when Sam popped up on trial at Yeovil. 1 in 7 is better than the current new forwards we have, he can play.
 

Sam Williams

I was pleased at the time when we did not make a move to sign Sam as I thought that it meant that we were aiming higher.

Strevens might well be better than him but we won't know for a while.

In retrospect not signing Sam was a mistake.

He can certainly play but I really thought that we could do better.
 

Sam Williams

It was very disappointing that Brentford were unable / unwilling to sign Sam Williams ahead of Yeovil since it was patently obvious from his few appearances for the Bees last season that he had the potential to be an excellent player. There is a tendency at Brentford to underestimate the worth of players who "play with their heads" and overestimate the worth of players who charge around hoping that they eventually catch up with the ball.
 

Sam Williams

Hmm, don't recall anyone clamouring for Williams in august. I love all this hindsight wiseness about the maradonna of somerset. Get a grip people.
 

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markbfc said:
Hmm, don't recall anyone clamouring for Williams in august. I love all this hindsight wiseness about the maradonna of somerset. Get a grip people.
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Read the thread as I remember a fair few saying we'd dropped a b***ock.
 

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ninebelowzero said:
Williams is poor IMO, I didn't go today so for those of you who went might laugh at me, but I can't understand whats so good about him, I have that image of that shocking one on one miss he had in his debut, I also remember him being poor in the air, However, to give him some credit I remember him scoring a vital goal for us :)
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you're way off the mark in my opinion... Williams had class in his touch and the way he held the ball up... one miss shouldn't be used to judge him and from where i was that say he really connected with the shot and it went narrowly over... had it hit the top corner it woul dhave been an amazingly assured strike... he'll learn form that and take his chances better next time for certain...

He'll be a good championship player and would have been a better option than what we've got...
 

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markbfc said:
no doubt he'll be in capello's squad for the world cup also. :rolleyes:
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Where do you find these ideas from, he was a footballer with ability and would have done a job for us. I doubt Capello will take him to Africa but who knows!
 

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Is he no longer a footballer with ability then?

At the time he signed for Yeovil, Strevens was fit and we were still hoping to sign Rhodes. This is not a missed opportunity unless you feel that he should have been signed ahead of Rhodes.
 

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Jimbee said:
Is he no longer a footballer with ability then?
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More footballing ability than a lot of forwards in the lower divisions, that was evident last year. Doesn't have the pace and lungs of some but I've never doubted his football ability. Sorry Jim but us Northampton lot hoped he was going to be part of our squad as he offers/offered something.

I will add that Cort gave us a performance that would have put Williams on the bench at the weekend.
 

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Jimbee said:
I we were still hoping to sign Rhodes. This is not a missed opportunity unless you feel that he should have been signed ahead of Rhodes.
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Hope got us Kabba, we didn't want Clarke and Williams and that baffles me.
 

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Now is perhaps a different story, but would Williams really have been favoured over Kabba as a signing by the majority of supporters? He's not a first choice at Yeovil either as far as I can make out.

I know you're always right in the end but we're not there yet. I took the pee because you used past tense when talking about his ability.
 

Sam Williams

Jimbee said:
He's not a first choice at Yeovil either as far as I can make out.

I know you're always right in the end but we're not there yet. .
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I don't think he'd be first choice with us but he would be a useful option. We need a squad and he would have been a good squad player.

I also know this but I'm trying to be positive this year and let other people go first.:D
 

Sam Williams

I don't know whether Sam Williams would have worked out as a good signing or not (although I'd liked to have seen him given the chance to come here) but he certainly falls into the category of the type of player that Andy Scott spoke about wanting not long after he was appointed - young, with ability and with the potential to develop further.

I'm not sure how Steve Kabba meets that criteria!?
 

Sam Williams

I didn't and don't rate him at all, I'm sure if we wanted him we could have got him. He played well in a couple of games, but can't really see him setting League 1 alight, he isn't that fast or skillful, got an okay shot, and okay link up play, nothing much else tbh.
 

Sam Williams

Has potential, but no certainty to make it, and has been out of Yeovil team, even with Bowditch injured. I wouldn't have minded us signing him, but he would have been behind Rhodes and Clarke in any wish-list of last season's loanees
 

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Who is a damn site better than Sam Williams.
 

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markbfc said:
Who is a damn site better than Sam Williams.
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It's called a squad, which one are you today, Sneezy, Dopey or Grumpy?:sorted:
When Cort (I Like) but wasn't performing became injured we had nobody to step forward. A kid like Williams would have filled the void and challenged him for a first team spot. Forget people telling you he couldn't play and was lazy, they are mad.
 

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NorthamptonBee said:
It's called a squad, which one are you today, Sneezy, Dopey or Grumpy?:sorted:
When Cort (I Like) but wasn't performing became injured we had nobody to step forward. A kid like Williams would have filled the void and challenged him for a first team spot. Forget people telling you he couldn't play and was lazy, they are mad.
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But - and the point that has been made many times - when he was available, we had Strevens, Elder and were chasing Rhodes - two of whom are, imo, better players. We know what happened which is why Cort was signed - Williams was already with Yeovil by then.

I don't see why we're pursuing these arguments tbh - circumstances meant that we were not in a position to offer Williams a deal when we might have needed him.

The choice really was between Williams and Strevens - Scott chose Strevens. Personally, I would've liked to have seen a good youngster given the chance but you can see why Scott wanted to get someone with more experience.
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
The choice really was between Williams and Strevens - Scott chose Strevens. Personally, I would've liked to have seen a good youngster given the chance but you can see why Scott wanted to get someone with more experience.
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My interpretation is the choice was between signing Williams and holding out for the possibility of signing Rhodes.
 
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