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Fans been protesting, owner bites back.

 

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The first 3 paragraphs saying fans can have a view so long as it doesn’t get personal or abusive would have been enough .

Rest is hardly going to adhere himself to anyone .
 

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It was all going so well until this

"I will not put additional money into the club. If you say you are the owner and I am the custodian, then show me how to be the good owner and help save your club. You want me to leave but you want me to spend money? If you want me to leave, then show me how to run the club and invest the money before I do that. You have no right to ask me to leave. I am the one who saved the club and spent the money for the club, I am the one who needs to pay around £2m on average every month. Some fans need to have more respect for owners of clubs and not be so selfish, thinking of their own benefit without doing anything good to the club. This is not acceptable and as a result I am not willing to inject more money while I am being treated unfairly by those fans."

I suspect the first part was written by the comms guys at the club. :ROFLMAO:
 

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He's got a point. He's losing 2 million pounds a month, 24 million pounds a year so they can go watch their club. If they are unhappy with the results they can come up with a better owner, if not, don't get abusive to the guy (and his family) who is keeping the club alive.
 

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He's got a point. He's losing 2 million pounds a month, 24 million pounds a year so they can go watch their club. If they are unhappy with the results they can come up with a better owner, if not, don't get abusive to the guy (and his family) who is keeping the club alive.
He absolutely does. However, that message will get you nowhere and actually increases the pressure, especially at Sheffield Wednesday, where the return of the "good old days" are demanded, however unrealistic
 

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He absolutely does. However, that message will get you nowhere and actually increases the pressure, especially at Sheffield Wednesday, where the return of the "good old days" are demanded, however unrealistic
What’s to stop him from just walking away? Is he legally obliged to find someone to take ownership and pay the bills before he quits?

If he just walked now and said stuff it, where would that leave Wednesday? They need to be careful what you wish for.
 

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It was all going so well until this

"I will not put additional money into the club. If you say you are the owner and I am the custodian, then show me how to be the good owner and help save your club. You want me to leave but you want me to spend money? If you want me to leave, then show me how to run the club and invest the money before I do that. You have no right to ask me to leave. I am the one who saved the club and spent the money for the club, I am the one who needs to pay around £2m on average every month. Some fans need to have more respect for owners of clubs and not be so selfish, thinking of their own benefit without doing anything good to the club. This is not acceptable and as a result I am not willing to inject more money while I am being treated unfairly by those fans."

I suspect the first part was written by the comms guys at the club. :ROFLMAO:
Sounds like he's pissing money up the wall.
Only one man can save him..
 

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Wow, I can see this will obviously placate all those angry fans.....?
 

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90% of clubs in the championship and below lose money because players wages greatly exceed the income from tickets, shirt sponsorship etc.
They've only just come up and have had double and treble the gate revenue of most clubs so if they are losing this much money already only one person to blame and that's himself
 

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He's got a point. He's losing 2 million pounds a month, 24 million pounds a year so they can go watch their club. If they are unhappy with the results they can come up with a better owner, if not, don't get abusive to the guy (and his family) who is keeping the club alive.
Fair enough not many football clubs are self sustaining but 2m a month? And theyre still sh*t. Sounds like a Chansiri problem
 

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They've only just come up and have had double and treble the gate revenue of most clubs so if they are losing this much money already only one person to blame and that's himself
Dumbass comment.

I guess Matthew could have stemmed the losses too. And we're be playing in National League South.
 

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It is his own fault do they ever sell anyone ? You can hardly compare Brentford with 8k attendances to them with 40k back in the league one days.Chansiri has also sacked about 7 managers in as many years with all the resulting pay offs.Hes run the club poorly and the fans want him out.good on them
 

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He's got a point. He's losing 2 million pounds a month, 24 million pounds a year so they can go watch their club. If they are unhappy with the results they can come up with a better owner, if not, don't get abusive to the guy (and his family) who is keeping the club alive.
I'm not sure most fans have the capacity to go and find him a buyer for a football club, they just want to enjoy watching their team.

There's no need for people to be abusive and I don't know how many guises the "trouble" has taken - he also says people should not protest, that will not be popular.
 

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Dumbass comment.

I guess Matthew could have stemmed the losses too. And we're be playing in National League South.
How much were we losing each year in the Championship and L1? Less than them but I seem to recall still well into the millions each year while still having one of the lowest budgets. And that’s with us being by any measure one of the very best run clubs. I’m not entirely sure we could have run at break even or better in L2 for very long and would have not been able to support GP’s running costs lower down than that on a break even basis. It wouldn’t be the B team we were trying to get playing in Staines but our first team. Which might have made 1000 die hard old school fans content and looking forward each week to having a beer pitchside but probably not many others.
 

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If you look through some of the SW forums the majority of fans are pretty unhappy with the protesters and think that the attacks have gone well OTT.
As for losing money at that rate...we weren't exactly cash rich in L1 & the Championship and I bet you Hillsborough costs a lot more to run than GP ever did. What they don't have is the conveyor belt of players they can sell in order to offset the losses.
 

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My mate who is an Owls fan thinks he's justified putting this statement out, says people have been attacking his family, whether he means verbally or physically I don't know. Still can't see this is a good idea myself.
 

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Sadly it’s a familiar scenario that happens when an individual makes a commitment to owning a football club and for whatever reason their ambitions and hopes are dashed and the resultant quagmire affects not just them, individually, but all who have some sort of connection.

Years ago it was the owner of a local business (sometimes with a somewhat ‘dodgy’ reputation) who bought football clubs to satisfy their egos and to ‘help’ the local population and in an era when the costs were not as extreme it was easier to manage their ambitions. Nowadays the same thing is happening, but to an exponentially higher degree, especially in the UK, and the risks are much greater, too.

We can all make comments about how the particular club/business has been badly run, but when criticism goes beyond the management and involves unassociated family members then that, in my opinion, oversteps the mark and cannot be condoned. And can you imagine what Matthew’s response would be if he and his family were insulted by some overzealous individuals? He would probably say that he’s not prepared to put up with that behaviour and cut his links with the club.

I don’t know anything about Sheffield Wednesday’s owner or the owner’s family, but I do sympathise if he is trying to protect them and for him, rightly or wrongly, he’s making his own views public to those who are prepared to listen.

Unfortunately we have seen this scenario very often and, no doubt, there are and will be other clubs, too, in the same predicament.
 

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What about Advertising vans outside people's houses?

W£bb out
Valentine's day massacre etc
 

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Munoz main quality was getting the best out of players but obviously not doing that now.

Not really sure how good he is tactically and in terms of setting up a team.
 

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Barely touched him. Thought it was contact with consequence now.

I thought it was soft on first view but the replay showed a shirt pull as the player had gone past him so I reckon it was a pen. All subjective though isn't it.
 

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From here it looks like desperate times at SW. Not saying that everything stated in his update will endear himself to the fans, but there is no justification for attacks on his family. Football shows itself in a bad light again, does not happen in Rugby Union, did not see anything like this experienced by the owners when London Irish went belly up. Seems to me that this is another example of a once proud big club that has been badly managed over a couple of decades, living beyond their means, and being allowed to by the football authorities without the necessary checks and balances in place. Today SW tomorrow.....
 

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From here it looks like desperate times at SW. Not saying that everything stated in his update will endear himself to the fans, but there is no justification for attacks on his family. Football shows itself in a bad light again, does not happen in Rugby Union, did not see anything like this experienced by the owners when London Irish went belly up. Seems to me that this is another example of a once proud big club that has been badly managed over a couple of decades, living beyond their means, and being allowed to by the football authorities without the necessary checks and balances in place. Today SW tomorrow.....
Different beasts.
Pointless comparison. ?‍♂️
 

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From here it looks like desperate times at SW. Not saying that everything stated in his update will endear himself to the fans, but there is no justification for attacks on his family. Football shows itself in a bad light again, does not happen in Rugby Union, did not see anything like this experienced by the owners when London Irish went belly up. Seems to me that this is another example of a once proud big club that has been badly managed over a couple of decades, living beyond their means, and being allowed to by the football authorities without the necessary checks and balances in place. Today SW tomorrow.....
I’m remember similar talk of imminent implosion with regard to Plymouth and Coventry. They got sensible owners and built from there. I think the key is the size e of the potential support base. If someone can get SW firing then the crowds are huge.
 

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As soon as they parted company with Darren Moore they were on a hiding to nothing, and were certainly my favourites to be relegated.
 

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I’m remember similar talk of imminent implosion with regard to Plymouth and Coventry. They got sensible owners and built from there. I think the key is the size e of the potential support base. If someone can get SW firing then the crowds are huge.
I don't dispute what you say however, when you get it wrong this is what happens. All about management.
 
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