Should Roy Resign?
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Beenut
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No! Apart from owt else I like his honesty in dealing with the media. No one expected success.
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Who would you replace him with? I like Gwandad Woy and would prefer him to stay but I would like to see our tactics change a bit. We are so slow on the counter attack it's unreal. We have some very promising youngsters and By the time Euro 16 arrives these younger players will have more experience and be ready for the challenge
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Brentford 4 Life
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True but did we expect it to be that bad? He has a low win percentage with England (for what that is worth).
hanworthbee
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Anyone......redknapp, pardew, Neville, Mancini ...Roy's failed he should be gone
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Admittedly no one springs to mind but then again how would we know who is available or up for doing the job?
Because you cannot easily name a replacement doesn't mean keeping Roy is the best option.
wanderer paul
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Madness. Redknapp, Pardew, Mancini lol
Neville's already involved.
As it stands, no. If Hoddle was available and the idiots in charge at the FA allowed Hoddle to run it from top to bottom, then maybe Glen Hoddle. But there isn't any other English manager around capable of managing England.
The only other manager for England that I'd pick is Roberto Martinez.
Should Roy Resign?
Why??
That's not my job it's for someone else to decide. Hodgson is on £3,500,000 p.a. think about it £14,000,000 for a four year gig where failure seems perfectly okay to him and clearly his bosses. I do not believe that Hodgson said to the FA when they were interviewing him that he wouldn't get out of bed for less and he should have been on £1m pa max but with substantial incentives for hitting defined targets which could ultimately have given him his £14,000,000 over the four years.
And yes I type the sum out in full just so that we can all see the noughts at the end.
He has failed dismally to have hit even his own targets.........unless going out in the Group stages was in fact his target. However if the ambition is merely to qualify for the World Cup and that's deemed enough for him to keep his job then I would gently suggest that many others could hit that particular target for a lot less dosh.
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Think he should stay. He's introduced youth when maclaren, Sven and cappello all kept the same old same old which I'm pleased about. I wish we could be more clinical on set pieces. Woys done good but still got a lot of work to do before we can compete with the top euro sides.
Ace Face
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I think if you accept failure you encourage a culture that says failure is ok and then you slip further behind your competitors.
Football is a business and in business if your Executive Team do not reach their targets the shareholders would demand one or all to be replaced.
We are the shareholders in english football and I don`t accept the 2014 World Cup shambles as progress or a stepping stone in a 6yr strategy to deliver success. If we are building for the future why play Lampard and Milner against Costa Rica Roy?
Football is a business and in business if your Executive Team do not reach their targets the shareholders would demand one or all to be replaced.
We are the shareholders in english football and I don`t accept the 2014 World Cup shambles as progress or a stepping stone in a 6yr strategy to deliver success. If we are building for the future why play Lampard and Milner against Costa Rica Roy?
Tom the bee
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Friendlies provide opportunities to build for the future. It was only fitting to give Lampard the send-off that he deserves
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I think he is the best man to bring on our young players, he hasn't had enough time to reap the benefits of this strategy yet. don't see what we would achieve by changing our manager now.
Ace Face
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Disagree. It is an honour to play for England FC and if you want to wave him goodbye do it in a friendly not in a competitive fixture with the whole world watching.
Ace Face
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I still think this is one of the best paid jobs in football and would expect good interest from the right type of character to start sorting out the mess we are in. Could we meet that persons demands with regards structures, power, influence and battles with the premier league, I don`t know.
Salford Bee
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Genuinely believe we wouldn't have qualified with Redknapp in charge.
whyteleafebee76
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Roy to stay. The end results have been poor in this tournament but I can see the early stages of a style of play with a youthful squad that will benefit from the continuity of Roy staying at the helm. If this current crop can develop over the next 2 years and we reach a minimum of the semi finals of the Euros in 2016 then I would be happy with that.
We need to be involved in a tournament next summer if possible,something like the confederation cup, as the more our players play in tournament situations the better. If there is nothing scheduled then the FA should try to invite 7 top nations to England in the summer of 2015 and have an 8 team tournament, 2 groups of 4. Good tournament experience and it willhelp pay for Wembley!
We need to be involved in a tournament next summer if possible,something like the confederation cup, as the more our players play in tournament situations the better. If there is nothing scheduled then the FA should try to invite 7 top nations to England in the summer of 2015 and have an 8 team tournament, 2 groups of 4. Good tournament experience and it willhelp pay for Wembley!
Ace Face
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Sorry a minimum of the semi finals in 2016???????????? The current FA top brass are happy for Roy to deliver 1 point and finishing bottom. I cannot see a dramatic improvement after 50 years of failure. Also you can guarantee that Spain will be a force again and France are a force on the up and at home.
whyteleafebee76
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Perhaps a bit ambitious but yes I think we should be aiming to be in semi finals in the Euros. Look past the amount of points gathered, surely you can see an improvement in performances in this world cup compared to 2010. We were awful in the group games in 2010, terrible to watch, very little attacking options, unable to retain the ball etc and it was all highlighted in the game against Germany. The performances this time around, against stronger sides, have been better.
Houghton Bee
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Don't forget he gave those lucky enough to be there a 0-0 draw with Costa ****ing Rica to cheer them up lol rofl lol rofl lol rofl lol
kevalutonbee
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Does it matter who is in charge?
Whoever it is will still have the same ridiculously pool of talent to fish in. As was said the other day its not like sacking the manager of a struggling league team where the manager can go out and buy a swathe of new players to get you out of trouble.
Whoever it is will still have the same ridiculously pool of talent to fish in. As was said the other day its not like sacking the manager of a struggling league team where the manager can go out and buy a swathe of new players to get you out of trouble.
The Pipe
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Please say you have missed the fishing smiley
Would not want 'Arry anywhere near the team as he is tacticly clueless. There are no obvious replacements for the poisoned chalice
We do not have the players to produce the goods, lets face it most if the other countries are technically better than ours and whilst that situation continues ( reasons are a different subject) we will remain strugglers in World Football irrespective of the Manager
mhead bee
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Why?
There are people paid millions of pounds a year to make that decision, why should I do their job for them? Are you telling me there is only 1 person out of several thousand billion on this planet that is capable of managing the England team?
Pros
Seems like a nice guy
Has brought some young players into the team
Speaks several languages and is articulate.
Players seem to like him, but they all said they were 100% committed to cappello as well
Cons
He doesn’t look well.
We were shameful at the euro’s
We only managed 1 point in the WC, the worst performance in our history.
He has badly got tactics wrong. Every other team in the world marked Pirlo out of the game EASILY, we had 2 years to plan it and just ignored him. He destroyed us twice and it was Italy’s only victory in a year and followed up by two further defeats.
He has fallen into the old England trap of playing the best 11, not building a team. Uruguay introduce a 19 year old international debutant with only 2 professional games to his name and he fit straight into their system. We never really looked like we knew what we were supposed to be doing.
Anyone who thinks we are just crap and never had a chance has to look at Greece. Their best players are a 40 year who once played for Fulham and a hairy CF who can’t buy a goal for Celtic. Other teams build a unit, a team, set up to know their job and how to go about it. We looked confused, Rooney on the left doing nothing but running like a marathon runner to no avail. He then moves Rooney inside and puts Stirling into an ineffectual position. Rooney goes on to have a good game and scores from that position, he probably contributed more to that game then Stirling did in the first but they both play the same position. Two holding midfielders, did we really need both?
It all looks very disjointed and messy to me .
Ok, I may have agreed with the squad and the decisions but when I get stuff wrong at work I pay for it. He has got it badly wrong in two tournaments so I say it is time to move on. As for who takes over, give me a few million quid a year and I will go and find someone….. Klinsman for example.
Salford Bee
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There are people paid millions of pounds a year to decide whether Roy stays or goes. Why should you do their job for them?
If you don't think he's up to the job, who do you think can do better? Quite simple really.
TW1Bee
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England's final humiliation
Looks like the final humiliation for the players was to bring back their own kit and wash it themselves
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28012532
Looks like the final humiliation for the players was to bring back their own kit and wash it themselves
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28012532
Simon T
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He's also got work to do at QPR getting the average age up to 35 and average wage over £60k per week :yes:
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Hodgson should go along with Lewington and allow a younger, more dynamic coach to come in. Martinez has been mentioned in this thread - Brendan Rodgers is another name to throw into the mix. No doubt we have some decent youngsters coming through but, apart from the first half v Italy, we were totally devoid of ideas. The so called golden generation of Beckham, Owen, Lampard & Gerrard etc in their prime were wasted and the present crop will be to unless there is change
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We would have cruised into the knock phase if Sturridge was as deadly as Owen was in his early 20's. He missed some really good chances.
Should Roy Resign?
Do you believe that Hodgson is the best man for the job and that he's good value for a four year contract totalling £14,000,000??
Quite simple really.
Guildford Bee
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Can't see Martinez or Rodgers going anywhere near that job TBH. Klinsmann is a decent suggestion but I don't think he could be tempted away from the States.
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If he's on a decent contract then why should he resign its not his place to do so unless fans think he would do the" honourable thing"which is fantasy.He could be sacked for a poor team performance at the WC but his employers should have made conditions in his contract.Does anybody think Will Grigg will walk away from the rest of his contract due to him not living up to expectations or if true give back the 50k he received as a bonus for the team gaining promotion.Maybe they should just sack him and give the job to that fantastic manager that never was Harry Redknap then we can put the final nail in our coffin.
Newport Pagnell Bee
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Genuinely don't care. Days of being interested in an England game have long gone.
horshambees
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No.The man needs support from the FA and all the England fans.
Get behind him.
Get behind him.
mhead bee
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I named one in my earlier post, read it again. Quite simple Really.
I see other countries making the best of what they have, I don't see that with Roy. If he did get it right then we would only get to the quarters with the players available but we should be making it out of a group and getting more than a point. if you think he is the only possible option then it is even simpler for you, don't even bother to think about it.
I will name all the managers who have got their teams into the next round...there you go.
sonofabee
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I think your expectations may have been a bit high, I bet on them not getting out of group. I flagged up weeks ago that the defence was poor and that has been our problem.
I don't blame Roy for the lack of decent defenders and unlike others I don't blame him for leaving Terry and Cole behind as both past their best and having them there may have prolonged our stay but we'd never have made the last week even when they were at their peak.
Salford Bee
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I think, although we went out at an earlier stage, England produced better performances. As someone above said; if Sturridge had done better with the chances set up for him we'd be facing Greece in the last 16. 2010 was awful. I think this was an improvement and it will get better. We've got players to come back from injuries. It should also be pointed out that most teams have lost the game after playing in Manaus. We had bits of misfortune in every game.
mhead bee
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We got 5 points in the last world cup and one in this one, how can we have been better. i think everyone is getting carried away with how good our group was. Italy have managed 1 win in 12, and that was against us. To consider a 2.1 defeat to a team who have not managed a win in a year to be a decent performance is I am afraid a very poor show. Tactically we didn't taken the basic step of marking their only decent player and he destroyed us, the other 11 teams they have played all managed it.
To be fair we missed chances but it is not as if we were creating stacks of them.
Salford Bee
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Which team is better
USA or Italy?
Algeria or Uruguay?
Slovenia or Costa Rica?
Fact of the matter is we've had a much harder group. I'd expect this (weaker on paper) England team to pick up seven points from that 2010 group.
Letchbee
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We need an England manager who gets the team playing 21st century football.
All we've been playing so far is 1980's stuff, Woy's era.
All we've been playing so far is 1980's stuff, Woy's era.
Should Roy Resign?
International teams should buildd their plans around the World Cup and the manager cycle should reflect this. A new manager should have the Euro's to prepare for the World Cup, we are out of kilter with this now as Roy is in place until after 2016. Roy was the right man too replace Capello and steady the ship but it should have been a 2 year contract until after this tournament.
Costa Rica have shown how a well organised team can have success with lower profile players whilst England still seem to try and find a system to incorporate all our "stars". The next recruitment process should focus on bringing a manager who has a clear tactical plan and way of setting the team out and how he will avoiid his team selection being influenced by the media.
Costa Rica have shown how a well organised team can have success with lower profile players whilst England still seem to try and find a system to incorporate all our "stars". The next recruitment process should focus on bringing a manager who has a clear tactical plan and way of setting the team out and how he will avoiid his team selection being influenced by the media.
Voice from the Braemar
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roy for now but mouriniho eventually.....hed love the job.....and i think it would change things massively for the better
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In what way ?
Moody 1-0 wins. Defensive mindset and arrogant press conferences.
When the FA appointed Roy it was for 6 years. The team are not good enough now. He has 2 years to work with the young players coming through.