Should Roy Resign?

Should Roy resign?

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Should Roy Resign?

w6bee said:
even Scolari as both have performed with different nations at Word Cups and major tournaments.
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Didnt Scolari turn it down because even before he was appointed he had press camping outside his home.
 

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TW3Bee said:
Didnt Scolari turn it down because even before he was appointed he had press camping outside his home.
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No, we sacked Ericksson right before the finals when he should have gone before the qualification started. We then asked Scholari to commit to us before it started when he was already Portugal manager and very probably going to face us, bloody unbelievable. He basically said if you approach me afterwards then we have a chance but you can't ask me to commit to our opposition before a major tournament has started, it would completely compromise my position.

The FA have no brain as we see with successive appointments, the way the whole place is run and the stupid ideas they come out with.

To be fair he then went to Chelsea and was appalling and if it wasn't for FIFA and the refs he would have gone out in the group stages at home this time round.
 

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hanworthbee said:
The longer the tournament goes on the worse we look.other teams gave progressed and battled to the death with inferior players, Switzerland, Costa Rica, USA and algeria, we also looked unfit compared to other nations and had no fight in us....Roy should count his lucky stars that Suarez has taken most of the heat off him....
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Roy took our best players and fitness is down to their clubs.
The fault of the failure, widely predicted pre tournament lies with the national set up not Roy.
 

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SmiffyBee said:
Roy took our best players and fitness is down to their clubs.
The fault of the failure, widely predicted pre tournament lies with the national set up not Roy.
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When you see where some of the "Lesser" nations players play their football (am thinking Costa Rica at the moment ), it looks worse for Hodgson.
 

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shaun said:
When you see where some of the "Lesser" nations players play their football (am thinking Costa Rica at the moment ), it looks worse for Hodgson.
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But apparently we have the best league in the world, so are not a lesser nation. We should be producing capable technical players not wholehearted tryers.
 

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SmiffyBee said:
But apparently we have the best league in the world, so are not a lesser nation. We should be producing capable technical players not wholehearted tryers.
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They were 7 (?) technical players from the premier league today in the Argentina/ Belgium game (6.5 actually as Fellani was playing ;) )

Are you calling the Costan Rican wholehearted tryers?
 

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SmiffyBee said:
But apparently we have the best league in the world, so are not a lesser nation. We should be producing capable technical players not wholehearted tryers.
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can we not have both? :)
 

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It doesn't help that we are such an insular bunch when it comes to players, none of ours play abroad which can only help broaden your horizons, look at Germany you have Oziil and schurlle over here, khadira in Spain , klose in Italy and that's without even doing any research.when we had our golden era we had lineker in Spain, platt and gazza in Italy.even our coaches never venture abroad with the exception of mcclaren...
 

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oziil is not the player he was before joining his present team ??
 

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There's too much money in the Premier League and many of the very ordinary English players would get severely found out in other European leagues. Perhaps this reflects on little old Brentford in that Warburton HAS worked with teams and coaches internationally and has a very different view, with a greater emphasis on youth and technical ability than 'journeymen' and players who's primary attribute is that they run their socks off.
 

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Interesting listening to Ray Wilkins yesterday and even his mild-mannered best he was pretty damning about English players being too lazy to challenge themselves abroad (except Ashley Cole), and that at youth level other countries the players have theory lessons to learn about tactics whereas here they don't so coming to play again contemporaries at the same age groups they never make the next step up in development.
 

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There's not much he could have done about the lack of basic fitness and the absence of mental toughness in the squad but when it come to tactics, that is under his control and he made serious errors. To leave Gerrard and Henderson alone in midfield against first Italy where they were eventually overrun and then to repeat this against Uruguay is unforgiveable. A side of 10 James Milners under the managership of Steve Bruce would have done better in this tournament.
 

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hanworthbee said:
It doesn't help that we are such an insular bunch when it comes to players, none of ours play abroad which can only help broaden your horizons, look at Germany you have Oziil and schurlle over here, khadira in Spain , klose in Italy and that's without even doing any research.when we had our golden era we had lineker in Spain, platt and gazza in Italy.even our coaches never venture abroad with the exception of mcclaren...
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Insularity may be part of it, but ultimately footballers (all Nationalities) will go where the money is.

And other than the two big Spanish clubs, Bayern Munich (known as 'FC Hollywood' by other German teams) and a few odd exceptions - PSG (Qatari owners), Monaco (no tax), Russia (oligarch owners and 17% income tax) and Qatar (obviously), English football pays bigger wages than anywhere else.

That's why players from elsewhere flock to England, but also why English footballers stay at home.

Spanish footballers had an even greater name for "insularity" than English, but now their economy has crashed and players' wages with it, even the likes of Athletico, Valencia and Sevilla are losing to England the players that Barca and Real don't want.

P.S. Now that he's gone to Roma, it's all very well for Ashley Cole to say that English footballers are too insular. But why didn't he go abroad when he left the Arse? Or any of the other four or five times he renewed his contract at Chelski? Could the real reason for his emigrating be that none of the other big-paying English clubs wanted a 33 year old Left Back? Much as the same as eg 35 y.o. Lampard going to NY as a "marquee" signing?
 

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Ealing Bee said:
P.S. Now that he's gone to Roma, it's all very well for Ashley Cole to say that English footballers are too insular. But why didn't he go abroad when he left the Arse? Or any of the other four or five times he renewed his contract at Chelski? Could the real reason for his emigrating be that none of the other big-paying English clubs wanted a 33 year old Left Back? Much as the same as eg 35 y.o. Lampard going to NY as a "marquee" signing?
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2 words for why Cole didn't go to Real but went to Chelsea after leaving Arsenal: Cheryl Cole. They were still together then and she told him she woudln't give up here career and move from London
 

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mhead bee said:
No, we sacked Ericksson right before the finals when he should have gone before the qualification started. We then asked Scholari to commit to us before it started when he was already Portugal manager and very probably going to face us, bloody unbelievable. He basically said if you approach me afterwards then we have a chance but you can't ask me to commit to our opposition before a major tournament has started, it would completely compromise my position.

The FA have no brain as we see with successive appointments, the way the whole place is run and the stupid ideas they come out with.

To be fair he then went to Chelsea and was appalling and if it wasn't for FIFA and the refs he would have gone out in the group stages at home this time round.
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I don't remember sacking Ericksson being sacked before a major finals. He went after WC 06 and was replaced by McClaren.

Wenger would be the perfect England manager. A visionary who over achieved during the barren years despite having relative peanuts to spend compared to United, Chelsea, Liverpool, City and probably Spurs.
 

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Leonardo said:
2 words for why Cole didn't go to Real but went to Chelsea after leaving Arsenal: Cheryl Cole. They were still together then and she told him she woudln't give up here career and move from London
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According to Google, they split up 4 1/2 years ago i.e. at least two contract re-negotiations ago.

And it was feeling "insulted" [sic] over money which caused him to leave the Arse, not some desire to broaden his footballing horizons...
"He groused in a ghost-written autobiography that he had left because Arsenal insulted him and left him “trembling with rage” by offering to pay him a mere £55,000, or $88,000, per week.
Chelsea almost doubled that, and increased the salary again over subsequent seasons."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/sports/soccer/10iht-soccer10.html?_r=0
 

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Its mates voting for mates. Non story. Move on.
 

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The actual votes were

Ronaldo 32
Messi 29
Neurer 25
Dave 12
Diagouraga 09
Toumani 07
Toums 05
 

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I'd bring in Eileen Drewery with Steve Claridge as her football adviser.
Add Russell Grant as fitness trainer and Sally Morgan as chief medic with her lovely husband John to look after motivation.
Any sign of Theo looking a bit out of sorts and John can buck him up by informing him that one day "he's gonna be lifted and disappear somewhere."
Traditional practices suited to the modern day.:sorted:
 
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