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Stephen Lee

Stephen Lee has been banned for 12 years after being found guilty of seven match-fixing charges. Snooker's governing body says it is "the worst case of corruption" it has ever seen but the Englishman continues to insist he has done nothing wrong. Lee, from Trowbridge in Wiltshire, told the BBC he was "devastated" by the ban and said he was "totally innocent". The former world number five's suspension will end on 12 October, 2024, the date of his 50th birthday. In the meantime, he cannot play in any game sanctioned by the World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association (WPBSA).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/snooker/24223268
 

Stephen Lee

If the evidence is there, the ban is right. If it isn't he should take legal action.
 

Stephen Lee

all good and bad in all walks of life.. he could do a lie detector to prove his innocence tbh..
 
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.............there's a deterrent if ever there was one...............
 

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Downside He got a 12 year ban but on the upside he won £100,000 as he bet £1,000 on 12 years at 100/1
 

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bees66 said:
all good and bad in all walks of life.. he could do a lie detector to prove his innocence tbh..
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A lie detector isn't going to explain the £15 grand found sitting in his wife's bank account though.....
 

Stephen Lee

Maybe he can spend the next 12 years trying to lose a few pounds (lb not £) !!!!
 

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homelessbee said:
A lie detector isn't going to explain the £15 grand found sitting in his wife's bank account though.....
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he has a wife? money talks I guess lol
 

Stephen Lee

Fat greedy **** in more ways than one - what a silly boy
 

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i read the whole document they produced after the trial (bored at work), it says a few times things like "he explained this payment as a sponsorship payment but never produced a sponsorship agreement", "he explained this payment as a management fee bonus, but no contract was ever produced" etc. certainly sounds very guilty.
 

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it's pretty curious too how he managed to come back after it (supposedly) to climb up to world #5 last year - i would think it would be indicative of losing some love for the game, plus the whole issue must've been hanging over him

but yeah, the governing body's case was relying on circumstantial evidence (pretty strong though - fundamentally, three unconnected groups making very specific and exceptional bets which they had no history of making before). and the judge basically said "look, give me another explanation and i'll try to believe it" and the guy went "well um er um hmm"
 

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Guilty or not I think that this case highlights the fundamental problem with the gambling culture we have in the world today. When I was growing up betting shops were few and far between and were very clandestine places where you could never see in to them. All you could bet on in them was the horses and the dogs and the only football betting was through the pools. Today the betting shops are like supermarkets with all sorts of offers on display in their windows. You can bet on every sport under the sun as well as betting on any possible outcome ( soon you'll be able to bet on which player farts first on the pitch - if you can't already !). And of course we have on-line betting which is even more widespread. It's no wonder that gangs and syndicates are cashing in and the temptation of the actual participants in the sport has become so great that some inevitably will and have get/got taken in. Maybe the bookies themselves need to consider their position in this but pigs might fly. Now there's a thought I'll have a fiver on the one who flies the highest. Don't get me wrong I like to have a bet now and again as bit of fun but my point is to do with the mega bucks that can be cheated on.
 

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I think the answer is to pay sports people more money so they are less inclined to cheat.
 

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nocoat said:
I think the answer is to pay sports people more money so they are less inclined to cheat.
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While I'm guessing you meant it as a joke, there is some truth behind it. The players most likely to be tempted are those where the bribes can outweigh the legitimate income. A Prem footballer on £50k+ per week would be mad to risk it, but someone likely to earn little may think it worth taking the risk. And individual sports must be easier to fix than team games (apart from betting on no-balls etc which are within the control of individual players)
 

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It was a bit of both BDB. I had your point in mind.
 

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Mr Tree said:
i read the whole document they produced after the trial (bored at work), it says a few times things like "he explained this payment as a sponsorship payment but never produced a sponsorship agreement", "he explained this payment as a management fee bonus, but no contract was ever produced" etc. certainly sounds very guilty.
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He also refused to show his wife's bank statements :shrug:
 

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/snooker/24127562

"Quite why he was in financial turmoil, or exactly what motivated his money-making misdemeanours, has not been made clear. When asked for his side of the story, he wanted to be paid for it. "

lol
 

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TW1Bee said:
Guilty or not I think that this case highlights the fundamental problem with the gambling culture we have in the world today. When I was growing up betting shops were few and far between and were very clandestine places where you could never see in to them. All you could bet on in them was the horses and the dogs and the only football betting was through the pools. Today the betting shops are like supermarkets with all sorts of offers on display in their windows. You can bet on every sport under the sun as well as betting on any possible outcome ( soon you'll be able to bet on which player farts first on the pitch - if you can't already !). And of course we have on-line betting which is even more widespread. It's no wonder that gangs and syndicates are cashing in and the temptation of the actual participants in the sport has become so great that some inevitably will and have get/got taken in. Maybe the bookies themselves need to consider their position in this but pigs might fly. Now there's a thought I'll have a fiver on the one who flies the highest. Don't get me wrong I like to have a bet now and again as bit of fun but my point is to do with the mega bucks that can be cheated on.
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who goes into the bookies to place a sports bet, not many people these days. its all about hitting the right numbers on the machines. LArge sports betting at the bookies is dead
 

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nocoat said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/snooker/24127562

"Quite why he was in financial turmoil, or exactly what motivated his money-making misdemeanours, has not been made clear. When asked for his side of the story, he wanted to be paid for it. "

lol
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Fat, unattractive men with plenty of money in a foreign country usually find a way to spend their money in a short space of time.
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
Fat, unattractive men with plenty of money in a foreign country usually find a way to spend their money in a short space of time.
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no way to talk about Santa like that....:nono:
 

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wibs said:
who goes into the bookies to place a sports bet, not many people these days. its all about hitting the right numbers on the machines. LArge sports betting at the bookies is dead
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I thouht there were more betting shops opening up than ever before?
 

Stephen Lee

Yes and as Wibs says they are primarily there for the fobt (numbers betting)
 
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