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Steven Gerrard

I got a right bargain today. It was a Steven Gerrard tray. It carries 10 mugs!!!!rofl
 

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............he likes a dive.............
 

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Dreadful player at international level, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the build up.
 

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Beat Poet said:
Dreadful player at international level, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the build up.
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Sorry am I missing some kind of humourous comment here -in which case I apologise. Wasn't it his free kick for the goal?
 

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Beat Poet said:
Dreadful player at international level, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the build up.
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Are you serious?

I think he's not done nearly as well as he should at international level given his club performances but today I thought he led us well.

One misplaced pass, the rest of the game I thought he did everything expected and a bit more.

This was by all accounts our worst ever squad with a Manager we didn't want and we were well worth a draw.
 

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Balders Bee said:
Sorry am I missing some kind of humourous comment here -in which case I apologise. Wasn't it his free kick for the goal?
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Yeah, a free kick, but Beckham was criticised for not contributing anything other than free kicks. I just don't buy all this "Gerrard is world class" b***ocks, he's not the type of player who the play should pass through - he should be on the end of things. But hey, just my opinion.
 

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Great ball for the goal but a very ordinaly performance from our captain. Enjoyed the game though. Thought we did ok. There is no one to worry about. Tournament is wide open. Im going for denmark to iran in the final !!
 

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Was one of our best players today. Looks positive every time he gets the ball.
 

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Beat Poet said:
Dreadful player at international level, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the build up.
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You usually talk a lot of sense and i enjoy your posts BP but dont agree with this one matey. He isnt going to bomb forward or play like he has done in the past for Liverpool, his legs arent up to it at this level and more importantly that is not what The Boy Roy wants him to do.
 

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Brentford 4 Life said:
You usually talk a lot of sense and i enjoy your posts BP but dont agree with this one matey. He isnt going to bomb forward or play like he has done in the past for Liverpool, his legs arent up to it at this level and more importantly that is not what The Boy Roy wants him to do.
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Fair dos, I just see that he's been shoe-horned into that role because like you say his legs have gone, he's captain and if he's captain he has to play every game. He doesn't have enough in his cannon to be able to settle into more of a playmaker role as he ages, ala Giggs or Scholes. "To be fair" though, there's a complete and total dearth of fit and available English playmakers. It's a pity it's all gone sour for Carrick at international level.
 

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I listened to the French commentary (as I'm in that french France) and they - or rather Arsene Wenger - thought he was our best player.
 

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Beat Poet said:
Fair dos, I just see that he's been shoe-horned into that role because like you say his legs have gone, he's captain and if he's captain he has to play every game. He doesn't have enough in his cannon to be able to settle into more of a playmaker role as he ages, ala Giggs or Scholes. "To be fair" though, there's a complete and total dearth of fit and available English playmakers. It's a pity it's all gone sour for Carrick at international level.
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Your right about him having to play every minute of every game as a captain should, but i fear for us if either Gerrard or Parker doesnt start or are substituted (which is likely as neither are young or the fittest) because as you say, we are lacking in that department. We would be a lot stronger if one of Lampard/Barry/Wishere was fit. I think the game yesterday needed one of those to come on and freshen us up as we started to look a bit leggy. Henderson is alright, but not the sort of player you would want to bring on in the circumstances he was yesterday if you have aspirations of going far in the tournament, but then again perhaps we (rightly) dont.
 

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Brentford 4 Life said:
Your right about him having to play every minute of every game as a captain should, but i fear for us if either Gerrard or Parker doesnt start or are substituted (which is likely as neither are young or the fittest) because as you say, we are lacking in that department. We would be a lot stronger if one of Lampard/Barry/Wishere was fit. I think the game yesterday needed one of those to come on and freshen us up as we started to look a bit leggy. Henderson is alright, but not the sort of player you would want to bring on in the circumstances he was yesterday if you have aspirations of going far in the tournament, but then again perhaps we (rightly) dont.
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I think Jones has shown in the past that he could be immense in centre midfield and not as a holding one, but one that drives on with the ball.

Also thought Gerrard was probably our best player last night, particulalry in defensive covering, got a couple of very good tackles and headers away from dangerous play in the 2nd half. Problem as I have said previously is defending as deep as we do to ensure our lack of pace in the central area of defence isn't exposed really does make it harder for Parker and Gerrard in particular, for the additional ground they need to cover and then the front men who are often isolated and feeding of scraps.
 

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I thought Gerrard at last showed a degree of tactical awareness and above all suitable restraint in that he generally avoided spraying those overambitious long passes of his that all too often fail to find their target.
 

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Gee Bee said:
I think Jones has shown in the past that he could be immense in centre midfield and not as a holding one, but one that drives on with the ball.

Also thought Gerrard was probably our best player last night, particulalry in defensive covering, got a couple of very good tackles and headers away from dangerous play in the 2nd half. Problem as I have said previously is defending as deep as we do to ensure our lack of pace in the central area of defence isn't exposed really does make it harder for Parker and Gerrard in particular, for the additional ground they need to cover and then the front men who are often isolated and feeding of scraps.
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Yeah i agree with that but Jones is still young and against the better sides he may not be able to grab the game by the scruff of the neck in the way Lampard or Barry could with their greater experience. I think being compact and getting 2 banks of 4 has served us well under Roy Hodgson so far and lets us play to our strengths (we dont have the players to be an out and out attacking side) but as you say Welbeck was isolated for long periods in the 2nd half and he did well as a (more or less) lone ranger in the French half.
 

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So he leaves one Franchise in USA to come to another Franchise here
 

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Strange that this was even discussed as I believe he has not yet got his coaching badges ( may be wrong) if that is the case then he would not be allowed to coach the team. Could be DoF and then employ qualified coaches but even then technically should not be involved in day to day running of the team !!!
 

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The Pipe said:
Strange that this was even discussed as I believe he has not yet got his coaching badges ( may be wrong) if that is the case then he would not be allowed to coach the team. Could be DoF and then employ qualified coaches but even then technically should not be involved in day to day running of the team !!!
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If Winkleman can move a football club 60 miles away from its home and get away with it he can do anything he likes.
 

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It would be a travesty if one of the best English players of the last 20 years ended up there.
 

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I think the work he’s done on AV showed in that first 30 minutes or so spell. Much better organised and some good ideas.

He’ll keep evolving as a manager and I suspect he’ll get to make a few signings both in Jan and in the Summer.
 

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Beezy said:
I think the work he’s done on AV showed in that first 30 minutes or so spell. Much better organised and some good ideas.

He’ll keep evolving as a manager and I suspect he’ll get to make a few signings both in Jan and in the Summer.
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I think his issue yesterday is his team aren’t fit enough. The intensity of the press noticeably faded, and by half time it gave us a lot less trouble. We have also improved our fitness levels since Smith left, I reckon Villa under Gerrard will get stronger and stronger over the next 18 months+.
 

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Adam said:
, I reckon Villa under Gerrard will get stronger and stronger over the next 18 months+.
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But will Gerrard last until the end of the season ? Lots of Villa fans want him out already
 

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According to Villa fans, his contract at Villa runs out at the same time as Klopp’s at LFC - 2 years.
 

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JCMcBee said:
.... don't think Gerrard is driven by ego....he loves football....so does TF.....the difference between both...is that Villa is not Gerrards destination...it's the bus stop before LFC.
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I would have Stevie G at Brentford if Thomas, in any way, left.
I have been highly impressed with the job he did at Ibrox and what he is doing at Villa.
A top manager in the making.
 

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fencer/bee said:
Yes im serious, lots ranting on Twitter, but a doubt he is under pressure from the board, just fans being knobs
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If that is true, they are more deludsed than I thought they were already.
 

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fencer/bee said:
Yes im serious, lots ranting on Twitter, but a doubt he is under pressure from the board, just fans being knobs
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We had some doing the same about TF last season. In our BFC village of 15000 there’s room for one idiot. In the population of Villa fans there will be more. I’ve seen folks saying Tuchel should be sacked even before the Lukaku stuff.

Gerrard is quite a low key and considered guy as manager- he’s obviously put a lot of serious thought and study into his managerial career. Unlike others who’ve just traded on their name being sufficient authority and inspiration he’s doing the hard yards. It was a bit of a surprise as I always thought as a player his interviews were a bit inane but maybe as a player he was able to be just intuitive and unreflective/non-analytical because he was so good, whereas he knows he can’t just do that in the highly technical coaching environment.
 

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Thought they looked a decent side who made us really struggle with their press in the first half so much so that we were reduced to hoofing it or passing sideways across the backline - however as others have said they appeared to tire after 60 mins and we started to find more gaps in the midfield areas which lead to the Onyeka chance and the 2nd goal. Think if they stick with him they will be comfortably midtable which is about where they should be this season - not sure what their fans want, top 10 would represent a decent showing IMHO
 

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horshambees said:
I would have Stevie G at Brentford if Thomas, in any way, left.
I have been highly impressed with the job he did at Ibrox and what he is doing at Villa.
A top manager in the making.
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....yes mate.... he'll be about for years....but at LFC....must be slightly odd being a Villa fan knowing your manager is there for a limited time for work experience purposes....hey ho
 

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horshambees said:
I would have Stevie G at Brentford if Thomas, in any way, left.
I have been highly impressed with the job he did at Ibrox and what he is doing at Villa.
A top manager in the making.
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Many, many years ago after England had got out of the Euro’s or World Cup, we were on holiday in Portugal. Went to a bar to watch the semi finals, 100+ in the bar, in he walks with his family.
Was offered a private area but wanted to stay with everyone else, watching the game. Talked, smiled, stood for photo’s ( pre selfie days ) , signed autographs, had 3 or 4 beers, did not forget his wife or kids were with him. Seemed to love being just a normal chap. Was very impressed with the way he held himself at the time and he has done nothing since to change my opinion. Seems a very sensible down to earth guy.
 

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JCMcBee said:
....yes mate.... he'll be about for years....but at LFC....must be slightly odd being a Villa fan knowing your manager is there for a limited time for work experience purposes....hey ho
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I doubt it. How many clubs keep their manager for years and those managers have no interest in a bigger job elsewhere? Do many of us really believe TF is planning to be at BFC for the next 20 years and would turn down the Liverpool job?
 

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They pressed really well 1st half we couldn't cope...never going to be able to keep that up for 90 minutes
 

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Seems a fantastic person, player and manager.

He's got some proper naughty friends and family in Liverpool!
 
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