Supporters Panel

[NorthamptonBee]

Not forgetting he's a big bully

Bill, I would have had you one, rebus voted you off, I'd already picked my lot and had none left.
He thought and I tend to agree with him, that you are too close to Sam Saunders, I didn't go along with the boring bit but I sort of understand his point.

 

[Bill Benn]

Do you know what mystery shoppers do? I do and it's not this.

You are right on that Les.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Righto, I'm just off to form another independent supporters group - The Ordinary Supporters Society Expecting Results or Short Tossers.

How very dare you!!!!!!

 

[PJ]

Selecting fans "at random" seems a bit odd to me.

Seems to me that the area BFC needs the most assistance is in marketing/advertising etc so a direct appeal to people with that expertise who may offer some leads/open a door or two would have been the way to go.
Otherwise onions may be top of the agenda ?

 

[Bill Benn]

Bill, I would have had you one, rebus voted you off, I'd already picked my lot and had none left.
He thought and I tend to agree with him, that you are too close to Sam Saunders, I didn't go along with the boring bit but I sort of understand his point.

I agree l wouldn't have me on the board.Things looking good from here at Starbucks in the Rocky Mountains.When l read about the lastminute goal against Colchester my thoughts went to Ketteringbee was he put in a straight jacket?see you at Hudds game.

 

[Brickie Chap]

So all you need to do is get other supporters to write a book under your name ! Fair play to NB. Not such a sleeping giant now!

(insert appropriate simile for those with a sense of humour bypass...)

 

[NorthamptonBee]

So all you need to do is get other supporters to write a book under your name ! Fair play to NB. Not such a sleeping giant now!

(insert appropriate simile for those with a sense of humour bypass...)

Oh hello....hold on there Bill, looks like one of my panel picks may have gone all potty mouthed and talked himself out of the gig. You mind them bears in The Rockys mate and come back safely, by the way, are you available for the 22nd of September?

 

[Brickie Chap]

I'm keeping them guessing you blasted dwarf. Dont give it away!

 

[Brickie Chap]

I do hope glory hunters are on this panel given they make up so much of our support.

 

[rebus]

Selecting fans "at random" seems a bit odd to me.

Seems to me that the area BFC needs the most assistance is in marketing/advertising etc so a direct appeal to people with that expertise who may offer some leads/open a door or two would have been the way to go.
Otherwise onions may be top of the agenda ?

Onions will always be top of the agenda PJ!

 

[taxi driver]

If this is the panel that PaulUSA got rejected for, I fully support it!

 

[Paul USA]

To be fair to BFC - The panel were chosen at random but only AFTER each application had been viewed/discussed/accepted and then placed in a pile with others.

There were 4 (?) piles at the end, all with applicants that fitted the job spec from different walks of life etc and the final panel was then picked at random from each pile.

This allowed BFC to muster a Supporters Panel that suited the task.

 

[harefield heckler]

so are we getting softer toilet paper in the new road?

 

[timmy_boy5]

Isn't this just what the marketing bods call a 'focus group' therefore a broad cross section gives the widest range of views?

 

[Banana]

To be fair to BFC - The panel were chosen at random but only AFTER each application had been viewed/discussed/accepted and then placed in a pile with others.

There were 4 (?) piles at the end, all with applicants that fitted the job spec from different walks of life etc and the final panel was then picked at random from each pile.

This allowed BFC to muster a Supporters Panel that suited the task.

Are you sure???? My information is that the 4 piles were:

1. Paul USA
2. Greenholme Bee
3. Northampton Bee
4. People from which to choose randomly.

Job done me thinks

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

Who were the chosen 3 & who chose the winners please?

 

[Paul USA]

Nana

I agree that the names you mention would have made a very good Supporters Panel with an in depth knowledge of the GP Matchday Experiance. The first 3 names alone would have somewhere in the region of 120 years of attending Griffin Park and also watching them away from home.

I have no idea who the final 12 random names were but if Greenholme (GPG FC's finest right Back) and Northampton were on the Panel that could only be a good thing !

 

[Sultan]

Who's going to be first to out themselves?

 

[Hullbee]

Who's going to be first to out themselves?

Its a gay panel?

 

[NorthamptonBee]

I have no idea who the final 12 random names were but if Greenholme (GPG FC's finest right Back) and Northampton were on the Panel that could only be a good thing !

Feck me, I've been dropped for gobbing off about my appointment before it was officially announced. Tough love dished out by BFC on a Friday morning!

 

[SmiffyBee]

If I were to randomly select as panel I would pick

Salford Bee
Davee
Sweepy
and Slatts

Heads would roll.....

 

[The Pipe]

If I were to randomly select as panel I would pick

Salford Bee
Davee
Sweepy
and Slatts

Heads would roll.....

Bloody hell total anarchy rules!!!!!

 

[Sweepy]

If I were to randomly select as panel I would pick

Salford Bee
Davee
Sweepy
and Slatts

Heads would roll.....

That is a proper panel. As the most agreeable personality on that list, I would have to keep their anarchistic instincts under control.

 

[slatts]

If I were to randomly select as panel I would pick

Salford Bee
Davee
Sweepy
and Slatts



Heads would roll.....

very well put Smiffy and a lot better than those Mail readers I hear have been proposed

 

[Adam]

I don't get why that can't be BIAS. Really cannot see why another group is needed when there is a supporters association in place that has some semblance of structure and representation already.

I don't get why you have to be a paid member of a supporters club to be able to give an opinion on the club? Surely people who are not members of BU or BIAS have an opinion to? Also Im sure if the club said only BIAS members are going to be consulted for this panel some BU members would kick up a fuss. I know BIAS members can just go on their website and suggest improvements anyway.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I don't get why you have to be a paid member of a supporters club to be able to give an opinion on the club? Surely people who are not members of BU or BIAS have an opinion to? Also Im sure if the club said only BIAS members are going to be consulted for this panel some BU members would kick up a fuss. I know BIAS members can just go on their website and suggest improvements anyway.

Let's get another panel together as well then. And another. And another. In fact, let's all be on a panel - BFC will have some many different opinions, they can pick and choose which ones they want to act on.

 

[Adam]

Let's get another panel together as well then. And another. And another. In fact, let's all be on a panel - BFC will have some many different opinions, they can pick and choose which ones they want to act on.

No I get your point about lots and lots of panels is pointless but my interpretation of the panel was the BU, BIAS and neutral fans are all represented equally in one place to gather the general consensus on ideas. However the picking at random bit really cocks that idea up. If they just wanted a student, an OAP and 37 year old season ticket holder from each stand Im sure the BIAS could easily provide that. Maybe the club doesn't listen to BIAS

 

[grepo]

Where's Random?

 

[Adam]

Where's Random?

What do you mean?

http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10421~2451568,00.html

"The final group was selected at random to try and represent as broad a section of the fan base as possible"

:scratch:

 

[Sultan]

Surely BIAS are there to represent all fans opinions and that the more members it has then the stronger the organisation becomes.

 

[Banana]

No I get your point about lots and lots of panels is pointless but my interpretation of the panel was the BU, BIAS and neutral fans are all represented equally in one place to gather the general consensus on ideas. However the picking at random bit really cocks that idea up. If they just wanted a student, an OAP and 37 year old season ticket holder from each stand Im sure the BIAS could easily provide that. Maybe the club doesn't listen to BIAS

What's a "neutral fan"?

 

[Adam]

What's a "neutral fan"?

Neutral as in not with BIAS or BU. As, even though membership fees are minimal, not all fans may be able to afford subscirption fees and if the club wanted to represent everyones opinion these people would not have their views heard. Neutral is probably not the best word, and by it I do not mean independant or of similar meaning as I know that is what BIAS is.

 

[GEOFFBEE]

A very long-serving, senior, and active supporter asked me on Saturday if the list of panel members had been issued.
He thought it should be, for several reasons, and I agree .
As well as being 'transparent' it will , surely, aid feedback of fellow supporters views, and thus strengthen the effectiveness of this initiative?....

 

[Les Beeavinu]

A very long-serving, senior, and active supporter asked me on Saturday if the list of panel members had been issued.
He thought it should be, for several reasons, and I agree .
As well as being 'transparent' it will , surely, aid feedback of fellow supporters views, and thus strengthen the effectiveness of this initiative?....

How does the panel intend to represent fellow views? Surely he or she will only put forward an individual view and we can hope that it is representative. This is why BIAS is a better representative because they have a channel for all supporters to use and a review process in place that agrees whether something get passed to the football club.

Perhaps the panel members can post on here in advance and tell supporters what they intend to discuss and then report back to supporters what they've learned after the panel, although I suspect a condition of the initiative is that they don't.

 

[Salford Bee]

Neutral as in not with BIAS or BU. As, even though membership fees are minimal, not all fans may be able to afford subscirption fees and if the club wanted to represent everyones opinion these people would not have their views heard. Neutral is probably not the best word, and by it I do not mean independant or of similar meaning as I know that is what BIAS is.

£15 for BU
£12 for BIAS

£2.25 a month to be a member of both.

 

[Adam]

£15 for BU
£12 for BIAS

£2.25 a month to be a member of both.

I did say they were minimal but times are hard! I am a member of BU, have a season ticket and suscribe to Bees player even though Im a student so I do not really support my own point

 

[GEOFFBEE]

I certainly hope , and expect,that the views of BIAS and BU representatives, on behalf of their members ,will still be heard. In fact, many supporters joined them for that reason.
I also feel that, if the new panel members are known, then fellow supporters can convey views and information to them.
Hopefully, then, there will be an extremely good two way flow of information between BFC and the club's supporters...

 

[Banana]

Neutral as in not with BIAS or BU. As, even though membership fees are minimal, not all fans may be able to afford subscirption fees and if the club wanted to represent everyones opinion these people would not have their views heard. Neutral is probably not the best word, and by it I do not mean independant or of similar meaning as I know that is what BIAS is.

No I don't understand. Do you mean "people that can't be bothered"?

 

[Banana]

I certainly hope , and expect,that the views of BIAS and BU representatives, on behalf of their members ,will still be heard. In fact, many supporters joined them for that reason.
I also feel that, if the new panel members are known, then fellow supporters can convey views and information to them.
Hopefully, then, there will be an extremely good two way flow of information between BFC and the club's supporters...

How does this "two way flow" get beyond the club-chosen, anonymous set of people?

 

[Chorlton Bee]

These all too often spats between the various empires are an inspiration to us all, keep it up lads!

 

[stoney04]

I received an email from the Club today saying that my application to be part of the newly formed Supporters Panel had been unsuccesfull.

Anybody on here get an email saying they had been successfull ?

me to!

 

[GEOFFBEE]

How does this "two way flow" get beyond the club-chosen, anonymous set of people?

I have already said, earlier, that I think it would be a good idea for the panel members to be named .

 

[wanderer paul]

I have already said, earlier, that I think it would be a good idea for the panel members to be named .

Yep. Or is it another 'closed shop', 'cliquey commune' like BU and BIAS!?

What do Brentford FC think they're going to get from these people (panellists can I be Simon cowell?) that BIAS doesn't already? It's just going round in circles. A totally pointless idea.

 

[Chorlton Bee]

Yep. Or is it another 'closed shop', 'cliquey commune' like BU and BIAS!?

What do Brentford FC think they're going to get from these people (panellists can I be Simon cowell?) that BIAS doesn't already? It's just going round in circles. A totally pointless idea.

this is getting better, football club gets stick for wanting to talk to fans! Are you watching Ken Bates!?

 

[JTofBFC]

Yep. Or is it another 'closed shop', 'cliquey commune' like BU and BIAS!?

What do Brentford FC think they're going to get from these people (panellists can I be Simon cowell?) that BIAS doesn't already? It's just going round in circles. A totally pointless idea.

I really can't see the point about being over critical about this and having a hissy fit without even knowing what is intended. It seems to me that it is likely the group of fans who have volunteered and been selected will probably be consulted about fairly low level issues such as catering, pre match music, club shop stock, programme articles etc whereas we already know that BU is more of a governance organisation that wouldn't take this role and BIAS is probably better employed on specific issues such as ticketing, stewarding problems etc where they have done good work in the past.

Why don't we just let the club get on with a more consultative approach with the fans without having to resort to unnecessary mud slinging.

Par for the course really I suppose, hopefully the club realise it isn't a majority view that this is a bad idea !

 

[wanderer paul]

this is getting better, football club gets stick for wanting to talk to fans! Are you watching Ken Bates!?

There's already BIAS for the club to talk too. as has been said already, how many fan groups shall we have? 2,3,4,5......... One for those that don't get on with BIAS, one for those that dislike the goings on with BU, one for the old boys of yesteryear, why not one for the GPG lefties, right wingers and those that aren't quite sure

 

[Les Beeavinu]

this is getting better, football club gets stick for wanting to talk to fans! Are you watching Ken Bates!?

You're missing the point - why only talk to 4 when you can talk to an organisation that not only has many more as paid up members but one that can openly communicate with all Brentford supporters?

 

[JTofBFC]

There's already BIAS for the club to talk too. as has been said already, how many fan groups shall we have? 2,3,4,5......... One for those that don't get on with BIAS, one for those that dislike the goings on with BU, one for the old boys of yesteryear, why not one for the GPG lefties, right wingers and those that aren't quite sure

I'm sure you will be at the front of the queue for the Group entitled "moan at anything the club try to do however positive it is". !

 

[Chorlton Bee]

There's already BIAS for the club to talk too. as has been said already, how many fan groups shall we have? 2,3,4,5......... One for those that don't get on with BIAS, one for those that dislike the goings on with BU, one for the old boys of yesteryear, why not one for the GPG lefties, right wingers and those that aren't quite sure

and as I think has been pointed out, BIAS don't have exclusivity to represent Brentford fans...or do they?

 

[Chorlton Bee]

You're missing the point - why only talk to 4 when you can talk to an organisation that not only has many more as paid up members but one that can openly communicate with all Brentford supporters?

I don't think that organisation can dictate who the club can and can't talk to.