Team vs Derby

[Artixbee]

We should IMHO have faith in our squad ad pick a team with the intention to win the game and keep us in the cup, balanced with the fact we all know the league is priority.

Bonham
Venta Nugent O'Connor Barron
Saunders Diagouraga Reeves Dallas
Hayes El-Alagui

A mixture of youth and experience on the bench. Keep our star players and those with knocks at home.

 

[steve.bees89]

lol 10 changes to the starting line up on Saturday.

Can see:

Button
Venta Dean Nugent Barron
Donaldson McCormack Forshaw Reeves Fillo
El Alagui

Bonham, Craig, Logan, Diagouraga, Saunders, Dallas, Hayes,

 

[Artixbee]

lol 10 changes to the starting line up on Saturday.

Can see:

Button
Venta Dean Nugent Barron
Donaldson McCormack Forshaw Reeves Fillo
El Alagui

Bonham, Craig, Logan, Diagouraga, Saunders, Dallas, Hayes,

1. McCormack and Fillo both picked up knocks on saturday (according to beesplayer) and we want to keep them in the best condition for next weekend.
2. We don't want to burn the likes of Forshaw out for more important games to come later in the season.
3. It's a real kick in the teeth for the likes of Kev, Toums, Saunders and Hayes if the manager doesn't have faith in them for this game.

 

[North London Bee]

We will probably iMO play a far weaker team against Derby than we did v Walsall.

We have a large and excellent squad albeit one that is becoming decimated thanks to injuries.

Promotion is the absolute priority this season and the Cups are a bit of an unwelcome distraction as I would guess that we are trying to conserve the main players and also learn from the Chelsea situation where we took our eye off the ball and also had to make up our unplayed games.

Uwe's plans might well have to change given the injuries but that makes it even more likely that all the unused squad players and maybe even Adams, Norris and Pierre might feature tomorrow.

 

[Stanwell bee 1889]

Button
Logan Dean Craig Barron
Saunders Reeves Diagouraga
Fillo Donaldson Dallas

 

[hypa123]

We will probably iMO play a far weaker team against Derby than we did v Walsall.

We have a large and excellent squad albeit one that is becoming decimated thanks to injuries.

Promotion is the absolute priority this season and the Cups are a bit of an unwelcome distraction as I would guess that we are trying to conserve the main players and also learn from the Chelsea situation where we took our eye off the ball and also had to make up our unplayed games.

Uwe's plans might well have to change given the injuries but that makes it even more likely that all the unused squad players and maybe even Adams, Norris and Pierre might feature tomorrow.

Agreed. There's also the importance of giving game time to players who are full squad members but are not currently making it into the starting line-up.

 

[Ealing Bee]

Button
Logan Dean Craig Barron
Saunders Reeves Diagouraga
Fillo Donaldson Dallas

An injury to any of your back four would leave us screwed for the League.

Ditto Clayton.

Barron (fitness) probably needs the practice, but imo we should be looking at Venta, Kev, Nugent in defence, with FEA and/or Hayes up front.

 

[The Pipe]

Bonham
Ventna Nugent Kev Baron
Saunders Dave Reeves Dallas
Hayes Norris

Good workout for players that need game time in a game that is a distraction

Farid to play last 30 mins as he needs to get fitter but prefer to rest the majority who will be needed Saturday

For those travelling enjoy the game but don't be surprised and upset if our team is markedly different to Saturdays

 

[staines_bee]

We should IMHO have faith in our squad ad pick a team with the intention to win the game and keep us in the cup, balanced with the fact we all know the league is priority.

Bonham
Venta Nugent O'Connor Barron
Saunders Diagouraga Reeves Dallas
Hayes El-Alagui

A mixture of youth and experience on the bench. Keep our star players and those with knocks at home.

I'd be happy with that. Next Saturday is our priority after all.

 

[Artixbee]

Bonham
Ventna Nugent Kev Baron
Saunders Dave Reeves Dallas
Hayes Norris

Good workout for players that need game time in a game that is a distraction

Farid to play last 30 mins as he needs to get fitter but prefer to rest the majority who will be needed Saturday

For those travelling enjoy the game but don't be surprised and upset if our team is markedly different to Saturdays

Good point re Farid. Would be happy with that team too.

 

[jlove]

I got the impression from Uwe's post-match comments that he had it in his mind to put out a strong side but injuries would mean a rethink.... so there may be some surprises.

 

[alexcavell]

Assuming Fillo is fit and Grigg is injured, I'd go for:


-----------------Bonham

Venta------Dean-----Nugent---Craig

Dallas--Diagouraga--Reeves----Fillo

-----------------Saunders

------------------Hayes


Subs: Button, O'Connor, Logan, McCormack, Forshaw, Donaldson, El Alagui


I think Nugent needs playing time and would learn most playing alongside an established centre-back, rather than O'Connor who generally does a very good job there (above Nugent in the pecking order) but is also learning the position. At left-back I wouldn't want Barron to play another game so soon after his first league 90 minutes in quite some time, and also I'd look to keep Logan fresh, so I'd play Craig there. Venta to come in at right-back.

In midfield I'd be more than happy with Diagouraga and Reeves, and also give game time to Saunders and Dallas who haven't played much recently. With Donaldson & El Alagui exhausting themselves on Saturday and Grigg & McAleny injured, I'd play Hayes upfront. The attacking shape could easily change with Fillo and Saunders swapping positions if Hayes gets too isolated as he did against Dagenham. I'd start with the formation above though, as playing Saunders in the middle would be better for ball retention early in the game.

I'd go with a strong bench rather than the development squad, as Derby will give us a tough game and although the League Cup isn't our top priority I'd like us to try to win the tie.

 

[londondude]

Strong team please

Button
Logan Dean Craig Barron
Forshaw McCormack Saville
Saunders Filo
Donaldson

 

[BRbee]

Bonham
Ventna Nugent Kev Baron
Saunders Dave Reeves Dallas
Hayes Norris
Good workout for players that need game time in a game that is a distraction

Farid to play last 30 mins as he needs to get fitter but prefer to rest the majority who will be needed Saturday

For those travelling enjoy the game but don't be surprised and upset if our team is markedly different to Saturdays

This looks a pretty good call to me

 

[sonofabee]

Strong team please

Button
Logan Dean Craig Barron
Forshaw McCormack Saville
Saunders Filo
Donaldson

Can't see it and feel for those travelling but suspect there will be 9 or 10 changes from Walsall team.

Bonham
Venta
Kev
Nugent
Barron

Dallas
Jake
Toumani
Sam

Hayes
Farid

 

[stano]

This will be second string, the development squad match tomorrow has been cancelled to allow the dev players to play against derby.

 

[The Pipe]

Farid could only manage about 60 mins on Saturday and looked knackered, the logic in then expecting him to play 90 mins on Tuesday escapes me

He moused most of last season had a truncated pre season so needs time to build up his fitness otherwise he will pick up an injury trying to do to much to soon

Let the others do the work on Tuesday and give him the last 30 mins

 

[sonofabee]

Farid could only manage about 60 mins on Saturday and looked knackered, the logic in then expecting him to play 90 mins on Tuesday escapes me

He moused most of last season had a truncated pre season so needs time to build up his fitness otherwise he will pick up an injury trying to do to much to soon


Let the others do the work on Tuesday and give him the
last 30 mins

To be fair he'll only get match fit playing matches so would start him but give him another 60 minutes.

 

[The Pipe]

Ok fair do's but would prefer other way round so he has tired defenders to deal with

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Bonham
Venta Pierre Nugent Barron
Kevin Toums
Saunders Reeves Dallas
Hayes

Button. Mawson. Oyeleke. Adams. Fillo. Farid. Norris.

 

[Bordeaux Bee]

Bonham
Venta O'Connor Nugent Barron
Saunders Reeves Diagouraga Hayes Dallas
El Alagui

 

[sonofabee]

Ok fair do's but would prefer other way round so he has tired defenders to deal with

Deal

 

[monkeymagic]

Can't see it and feel for those travelling but suspect there will be 9 or 10 changes from Walsall team.

Bonham
Venta
Kev
Nugent
Barron

Dallas
Jake
Toumani
Sam

Hayes
Farid

Couldn't agree more. Like it or not (and I do) the League is the absolute priority this season and so I can only see Scott Barron starting from Saturday's team.
Its a tough one for the fans but look how hungry those that started v Daggers in the first round were.

I'd imagine Derby will have similar sentiments and may not put out a team deemed to be their first XI.
Regardless, still think we'll be too strong for them.

http://nickbruzonslastword.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/a-life-without-risk-is-no-life-at-all/

 

[alexcavell]

Bonham
Venta Pierre Nugent Barron
Kevin Toums
Saunders Reeves Dallas
Hayes

Button. Mawson. Oyeleke. Adams. Fillo. Farid. Norris.

Oyeleke played today on loan at Aldershot

 

[mundee4england]

---------------------------Button----------------------------

Venta---------Nugent---------Craig-----------Barron

-----------------------------Kev----------------------------
----------------Toumani-------Reeves-----------------

Dallas-----------------------------------------Saunders
---------------------------Hayes----------------------------

Subs: Button, Dean, Logan, McCormack, Forshaw, Fillo, Farid.

 

[hemelbee]

Bonham
Venta
O'Connor
Nugent
Barron
Dave
Reeves
Saville
Dallas
Saunders
Hayes

Logan, Dean, Forshaw, McCormack and Donaldson too important to risk.

 

[The Pipe]

---------------------------Button----------------------------

Venta---------Nugent---------Craig-----------Barron

-----------------------------Kev----------------------------
----------------Toumani-------Reeves-----------------

Dallas-----------------------------------------Saunders
---------------------------Hayes----------------------------

Subs: Button, Dean, Logan, McCormack, Forshaw, Fillo, Farid.

Busy lad young Button!!!!!

 

[mundee4england]

Busy lad young Button!!!!!

Lol! Bonham on the bench... Too many Bs!

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Good point re Farid. Would be happy with that team too.

Expect Uwe to have Norris on bench and another man in midfield. Could be plays Kev in the deeper midfield role and plays Craig or Dean alongside Nugent.

 

[jbolas]

Bonham
Venta Dean Craig Barron
Forshaw Reeves Dave
Saunders Farid Dallas

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Bonham
Venta Dean Craig Barron
Forshaw Reeves Dave
Saunders Farid Dallas

I think the one player who will definitely start is Kev.

 

[BeesBloke]

Think we will utilise our squad and rightly so,

----------Button----------

Venta-Dean-Nugent-Barron

-------Toumani-Kev-------

Dallas-Reeves-Saunders

----------Hayes----------

(Farid to play 30mins)

 

[jlove]

I was hoping to see a relatively full-strength Bees side against decent Championship opposition; I think it is a good benchmark to see how far off we are. I guess it may not happen with the injury situation, though.

 

[ladbroke]

I would think a full strength team would be out there as you never know who we might get in the next round if we qualify and any potential money spinner could help us in the end of window market...

 

[shouldbee]

Jenson
Javi
Harlee
Ben
Scotty

Toums

Filo
George
Sam

Farid
Hayesy

 

[PJ]

Button

Venta K0C Nugent Barron

Dallas Reeves Dave Adams

Saunders

Farid

(Strong bench)

 

[SQUELCH]

A mix of experience with the likes of

Kev
Hayes
Toumani
Javi

And a good blend of young guns looking to stamp their mark

Bonham
Nugent
Dallas
Reeves

 

[King Bee]

Bonham
Venta
O'Connor
Nugent
Barron
Dave
Reeves
Saville
Dallas
Saunders
Hayes

Logan, Dean, Forshaw, McCormack and Donaldson too important to risk.

Would go with this but would include Saville in the too important to risk camp...and replace him with one of the development squad youngsters - maybe Pierre, with O'Connor in front of the back 4....

 

[SlumanBee]

All change!

Seriously though - not sure why people are "feeling" for the fans travelling tonight, they support Brentford - not just the first XI. Our squad is strong this season and if they play well you never know.

 

[The Pipe]

All change!

Seriously though - not sure why people are "feeling" for the fans travelling tonight, they support Brentford - not just the first XI. Our squad is strong this season and if they play well you never know.

Yes our squad is strong but the difference in class is likely to be evident if Derby play their full team. Would expect our full strength team to give a good account of themselves but in all fairness if our forward line is Hayes and Norris I think we will struggle to get a goal

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

Need to give some squad players some game time, and protect some key players. Lge Cup is hardly a money-spinner these days, so
Button
Venta O'Connor Nugent Craig
Reeves MacCormack Diagouraga
Saunders Hayes Dallas
subs: Bonham Dean Barron Logan Forshaw El-Alagu Norris

 

[SlumanBee]

Yes our squad is strong but the difference in class is likely to be evident if Derby play their full team. Would expect our full strength team to give a good account of themselves but in all fairness if our forward line is Hayes and Norris I think we will struggle to get a goal

I would expect a gulf in class to be slightly evident if we both played our first teams IMHO. Not sure why people think Norris is going to get a start when he hasn't played a minute yet.

 

[BournemouthBee]

All change!

Seriously though - not sure why people are "feeling" for the fans travelling tonight, they support Brentford - not just the first XI. Our squad is strong this season and if they play well you never know.

I can see the bigger picture of the priority of promotion but it's still a bloody long way fom Southampton to Derby for us! I don't fancy driving all that way for a tonking - Detby are a good side and in form.

 

[The Pipe]

I would expect a gulf in class to be slightly evident if we both played our first teams IMHO. Not sure why people think Norris is going to get a start when he hasn't played a minute yet.

Norris was involved pre season and if we are resting players then only he and Hayes are fully fit! Sort of last man standing syndrome !!!

 

[nick logan]

Norris was involved pre season and if we are resting players then only he and Hayes are fully fit! Sort of last man standing syndrome !!!

Farid and Hayes need games.

 

[SlumanBee]

Norris was involved pre season and if we are resting players then only he and Hayes are fully fit! Sort of last man standing syndrome !!!

I would expect Uwe to play Hayes up-top alone and have a dynamic midfield getting up to support him. Saunders, Dave, Reeves, Dallas and one more. Then swap Hayes for Farid if things are going okay - or if we need a goal Farid and Hayes for last twenty odd.

 

[The Pipe]

Farid and Hayes need games.

But Farid is not ready for 90 mins so if Grigg injured, Clayton rested and Farid not fully fit the cupboard is bare!!

 

[SQUELCH]

But Farid is not ready for 90 mins so if Grigg injured, Clayton rested and Farid not fully fit the cupboard is bare!!

You reckon Uwe will start Hayes up top on his own with Farid to come on should / when we need him?

Tough one really as guess we can't risk anothe rinjury but like Logan says they both need games.

 

[brentfordwannabee]

All change!

Seriously though - not sure why people are "feeling" for the fans travelling tonight, they support Brentford - not just the first XI. Our squad is strong this season and if they play well you never know.

Agree, looking forward to a good evening, as soon as my lift turns up.....

 

[jlove]

Seems like most posters want us to turn up, go through the motions and lose. Personally, I'm not driving to Derby to watch a pre-season friendly; I'd like to see us compete with an established Championship club.