Team vs Doncaster

Team vs Doncaster

Steve G said:
Why not? That's the team to dominate Doncaster and win the match!!
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I see a Hodson/Logan combo that doesn't really work or Jake Reeves in the middle, I hope not and that we go with the team quoted.
 

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Brain-dead Bee said:
Moore
Logan O'Connor Dean Bidwell
Forshaw Adeyemi Diagouraga Forrester
Donaldson BWP
Subs Gounet Hodson Douglas Saunders Dallas Trotta Hayes
[Douglas on bench as I think the injury he's carrying has hit his form]
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I'd be very tempted to go for that starting line-up too but would probably go with Douglas (if fit) in place of Forshaw, moving Adeyemi over to the right-hand side.

First question is the formation - whether we go with a flat 4-4-2, diamond or a system with 5 in midfield. I believe we need to pair Donaldson and Wright-Phillips upfront, which will be a powerful threat against a Doncaster defence which is not the most mobile, ruling out playing 5 in midfield. We've had success at home recently playing a diamond, but the system doesn't favour Forrester (who I believe should start) and it hasn't really been used against the top teams. Also Doncaster have some decent wingers so our full-backs will need some protection from a more conventional 4-4-2.

The back 5 pick themselves, with Pierre not likely to be thrown into the biggest match in a decade and Adeyemi (whether he would be capable at centre-back) needed for his energy higher up the pitch. Hodson has ended the season strongly, but Logan has played at right-back all season and should continue. The midfield is definitely where the biggest selection arguments will be, with Diagouraga and Adeyemi in top form, influencing play strongly and surely both deserving of a place in the team. We've shown we can play and dominate the midfield without Douglas in both Sheffield United matches, so if he's not fully fit I wouldn't be overly worried. However, there have also been plenty of games over the last couple of seasons where Douglas has stepped up in the big games and led by example. For this reason I'd want him in the side.

With Adeyemi, Diagouraga and Douglas all playing we'd have 3 players who are decent in the air in midfield, which will be useful against Doncaster's aerial threat, especially with Tony Craig missing for us. Adeyemi can play narrow on the right-hand side, breaking up playing and surging down the right or through the middle when in possession. Forshaw has done well this season but his form has dipped over the last 6 weeks or so IMO - probably the result of playing so many games to such a high standard in his first full season of league football. I'd just about favour him over Saunders playing on the right if Douglas isn't fully fit though (with Adeyemi then in middle). I'd play Forrester on the left where hopefully he can return to form (which he showed real glimpses of yesterday) and give us a huge attacking threat.

As for substitutes, it doesn't look likely that Hayes will be back, so I'd go with El Alagui in his place. I'd also go for Pierre in place of Dallas in case we get hit with an aerial bombardment towards the end. Unfortunately no room in the squad for Reeves after his midfield masterclass against Sheffield United. Nerves got to him yesterday, with inconsistency expected for such a young player, but for next Saturday it's more a case of having other players available on the bench who can possibly change the game in our favour in a variety of situations.
 
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alexcavell said:
I'd be very tempted to go for that starting line-up too but would probably go with Douglas (if fit) in place of Forshaw, moving Adeyemi over to the right-hand side.

First question is the formation - whether we go with a flat 4-4-2, diamond or a system with 5 in midfield. I believe we need to pair Donaldson and Wright-Phillips upfront, which will be a powerful threat against a Doncaster defence which is not the most mobile, ruling out playing 5 in midfield. We've had success at home recently playing a diamond, but the system doesn't favour Forrester (who I believe should start) and it hasn't really been used against the top teams. Also Doncaster have some decent wingers so our full-backs will need some protection from a more conventional 4-4-2.

The back 5 pick themselves, with Pierre not likely to be thrown into the biggest match in a decade and Adeyemi (whether he would be capable at centre-back) needed for his energy higher up the pitch. Hodson has ended the season strongly, but Logan has played at right-back all season and should continue. The midfield is definitely where the biggest selection arguments will be, with Diagouraga and Adeyemi in top form, influencing play strongly and surely both deserving of a place in the team. We've shown we can play and dominate the midfield without Douglas in both Sheffield United matches, so if he's not fully fit I wouldn't be overly worried. However, there have also been plenty of games over the last couple of seasons where Douglas has stepped up in the big games and led by example. For this reason I'd want him in the side.

With Adeyemi, Diagouraga and Douglas all playing we'd have 3 players who are decent in the air in midfield, which will be useful against Doncaster's aerial threat, especially with Tony Craig missing for us. Adeyemi can play narrow on the right-hand side, breaking up playing and surging down the right or through the middle when in possession. Forshaw has done well this season but his form has dipped over the last 6 weeks or so IMO - probably the result of playing so many games to such a high standard in his first full season of league football. I'd just about favour him over Saunders playing on the right if Douglas isn't fully fit though (with Adeyemi then in middle). I'd play Forrester on the left where hopefully he can return to form (which he showed real glimpses of yesterday) and give us a huge attacking threat.

As for substitutes, it doesn't look likely that Hayes will be back, so I'd go with El Alagui in his place. I'd also go for Pierre in place of Dallas in case we get hit with an aerial bombardment towards the end.
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Well argued. On the bench i think we should keep Reees there as he ia capable of making a pass to unlock a defence late on in a game so someone else would have to drop out with Donaldson returning do for that reason I think both Pierre and Dallas will miss out. If we do come under an aerial bombardment late on I Suspect Douglas will be positioned just in front of the back four as too big a moment to throw Pierre into fray and we want to avoid silly free kicks just outside box. I do agree though tht we will have a bench with a lack of cover in defence (apart from Hodson) and defensive midfield and no out and out winger.
 
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Balders Bee said:
Stimulate BWP??? The bloke scored an excellent strike to get us a point, he looked far more potent than a strangely subdued BWP today. Trotta divides opinion I can accept though how (a.) He can be criticised for his performance today (b). Can be blamed for a mediocre performance from BWP eludes me I'm afraid.
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Well the Manager knows best and he (trotta) was hoiked off not BWP,expect BWP and Clayton to start against donny.
 

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Moore
Logan Dean Kev Bidwell
Douglas
Saunders Tom Forshaw
Clayton BWP

Want Tom for his drive and energy, Sam and Adam for their cleverness and JD to glue it all together. Up front gone with BWP as seemed to play well with Clayton however Trotta looks fairly deadly in front of goal should BWP not be fit

Subs: Gournet Reeves dave Forrester Dallas and Hodson

Must win so attacking team and attacking subs, if our defence with Kev in is not good enough then we just need to score more !!
 

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Moore

logan dean kev bidwell

saunders reeves douglas forrester

Clayton Trotta
 

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The Pipe said:
Moore
Logan Dean Kev Bidwell
Douglas
Saunders Tom Forshaw
Clayton BWP

Want Tom for his drive and energy, Sam and Adam for their cleverness and JD to glue it all together. Up front gone with BWP as seemed to play well with Clayton however Trotta looks fairly deadly in front of goal should BWP not be fit

Subs: Gournet Reeves dave Forrester Dallas and Hodson

Must win so attacking team and attacking subs, if our defence with Kev in is not good enough then we just need to score more !!
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Definitely not this team I'm afraid!no strikers in the bench!
 

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Moore
Logan Dean Kev Bidwell
Forshaw Tom Dougie Forrester
BWP Clayton
Subs: Trotta Farid Dave Saunders Reeves
No keeper on the bench its sh*t or bust time1
 

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Has anyone sussed why the Donnys do so well away and lose so often at home. Their strength and weaknesses are?
We need Saunders or Forshaw in midfield as they can pass it about and free kick specialists .
This is our Cup Final, we don't need Wembley. This is a ONE Match playoff, the winner goes up.
We can do it Uwe better believe it.
 

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Pretty certain it will be

Moore
Logan O'Connor Dean Bidwell
Forshaw Douglas Adeyemi Diagouraga
Clayton BWP

Gounet, Hodson, Saunders, Forrester, Reeves, El Alagui, Trotta
 

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If ever there's a game for Forrester this is it. He always rises to the occasion. He has to play because when he is on his game - which he normally is in big games - he is unplayable. Back in winter we used to mould our team around him.
 

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The case for Adeyemi's return looks pretty unanswerable, and on the basis of his performance yesterday I'd go for Forrester ahead of Saunders or Forshaw.

Yes, this is the game that matters. You can understand the players being a little off-colour on a bumpy pitch on a windy evening in Hartlepool given the traumas of midweek, but surely they'll be at the opposition's throat right from the off after a good week's rest.
 

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Bit Off-topic, but does anyone know if a foreign TV company is showing the game? Will be far away from GP on Saturday, and need a stream. Thanks.
 

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We got to play our way and not be intimidated by donny and their style, we can outplay any team on our day if we get it down and do what we do best. Uwe has got to set us up to play for ourselves and not to 2nd guess what donny are going to do. Going to be a crazy atmosphere Saturday getting their early to soak it all up!

I think well do it 2-1

Clayton & forshaw
 

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hypa123 said:
The case for Adeyemi's return looks pretty unanswerable, and on the basis of his performance yesterday I'd go for Forrester ahead of Saunders or Forshaw.

Yes, this is the game that matters. You can understand the players being a little off-colour on a bumpy pitch on a windy evening in Hartlepool given the traumas of midweek, but surely they'll be at the opposition's throat right from the off after a good week's rest.
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Unless Adeyemi is not 100% fit?
 

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Lestabee said:
We got to play our way and not be intimidated by donny and their style, we can outplay any team on our day if we get it down and do what we do best. Uwe has got to set us up to play for ourselves and not to 2nd guess what donny are going to do. Going to be a crazy atmosphere Saturday getting their early to soak it all up!
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You're right -- it's essential we get it on the deck and keep it there as much as possible. I've been looking at their messageboard and it's clear that Jones isn't comfortable against pace and has a tendency to give away free kicks around the box, whereas he'll deal easily with anything in the air. Pass it around at pace and we have a decent chance, though the thought of a rusty King Kev up against their forwards doesn't fill me with confidence. Paynter's a limited player but we mustn't give him any room in the box.
 

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---------------------Moore------------------

Logan-------Dean-----KoC------Bidwell

Forshaw---Dougie--Adeyemi--Forrester

--------------BWP-------Clayton--------------

Subs: Gounet, Hodson, Toumani, Reeves, Saunders, Trotta, FAE.


Not a game for Reeves please. Strong team, strong bodies as need the strength to help combat that Jones at set plays. Harry is due a moment for me!
 

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Has to be a midfield of Tom, Douglas, Forshaw, Forrester for me.

It has balance and attacking flair.

Moore
Logan Dean O'Connor Bidwell
Forshaw Tom Dougie Harry
Don BWP

Am I the only one who doesn't see Hodson as the 'attacking winger' that I think Uwe wishes he was? I thought he had a terrible first half vs Hartlepool (not the only one...I know) and despite his cross for the goal was giving the ball away left, right and centre. He's a back up for Shay for me, nothing more. For my above team I'd sooner bring on Sam for Adam if need be - everytime Sam's come on recently he's brought energy to the team when we're a bit lifeless - could be crucial if it's 0-0 on 75mins...
 

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High tempo and pace is going to be so key to us winning this match. Flynn said that their key to success away from home is to drop deep and to hit teams on the counter. With what they have to do on Sat, I can see them doing just this. Their midfield and Hume and/or Brown up top will cause us danger on the counter with skill and pace. Paynter, Jones and Mccombe will be a threat from set pieces. Jones and Mccombe are massive but really slow and I can see us winning a number of freekicks around their penalty area. With that in mind, I would be inclined to start with the team at the top of this thread, but with Saunders in for Harry as we have no one like him in these situations.
 

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IMHO certainly a game for Saunders and perhaps also Harry, want to try to run at them from the off to unsettle them, would like Tom and Dave in the middle also with BWP and Don upfront.
What is encouraging is the strength we have on the bench whichever 11 is selected to start. Attack and see them off by half-time guys.
 

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W13 Bee said:
High tempo and pace is going to be so key to us winning this match. Flynn said that their key to success away from home is to drop deep and to hit teams on the counter. With what they have to do on Sat, I can see them doing just this. Their midfield and Hume and/or Brown up top will cause us danger on the counter with skill and pace. Paynter, Jones and Mccombe will be a threat from set pieces. Jones and Mccombe are massive but really slow and I can see us winning a number of freekicks around their penalty area. With that in mind, I would be inclined to start with the team at the top of this thread, but with Saunders in for Harry as we have no one like him in these situations.
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If they intend to sit back deep it would be great to sneak and early goal so they have to come out and play .That way we may be able to score a few more passed them with team as agreed above of.........



Moore
Logan Dean O'Connor Bidwell
Forshaw Tom Dougie Harry
Don BWP
 

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The Pipe said:
Moore
Logan Dean Kev Bidwell
Douglas
Saunders Tom Forshaw
Clayton BWP

Want Tom for his drive and energy, Sam and Adam for their cleverness and JD to glue it all together. Up front gone with BWP as seemed to play well with Clayton however Trotta looks fairly deadly in front of goal should BWP not be fit

Subs: Gournet Reeves dave Forrester Dallas and Hodson

Must win so attacking team and attacking subs, if our defence with Kev in is not good enough then we just need to score more !!
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Yes this I guess although my heart says Harry in from the start but Saunders has been very effective particularly at the start of games. You've got to have Trotta on the bench and to be honest he looked much sharper than BWP on Saturday. If Harry is on the bench I'd also have FEA in case we need to go route one at some point. Douglas must play if fit, he has been the engine room of this team for the best part of two seasons now and hopefully he can be patched together and put in a big shift for one last time.

Can see it being very tight and cagey from the outset. It's against Uwe's nature to go all gung-ho and he'll want to make damn sure we don't concede early against a strong counter attacking side. Ideally we play cat and mouse and get a late-ish winner. However it's a real game of binksmanship between the managers as to how they set up and if we don't get the early goal when will Uwe press the big red button and go hell for leather.

Uwe really has got the opportunity to install himself as a managerial legend by getting this one right.
 

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claphambee said:
Has to be a midfield of Tom, Douglas, Forshaw, Forrester for me.

It has balance and attacking flair.

Moore
Logan Dean O'Connor Bidwell
Forshaw Tom Dougie Harry
Don BWP

Am I the only one who doesn't see Hodson as the 'attacking winger' that I think Uwe wishes he was? I thought he had a terrible first half vs Hartlepool (not the only one...I know) and despite his cross for the goal was giving the ball away left, right and centre. He's a back up for Shay for me, nothing more. For my above team I'd sooner bring on Sam for Adam if need be - everytime Sam's come on recently he's brought energy to the team when we're a bit lifeless - could be crucial if it's 0-0 on 75mins...
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I think majority of fans would pick this team but a said elsewhere I have a suspicion Uwe will want to accommodate Toumani in starting eleven
 

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I'd play 4-4-2:

Moore
Logan Kev Dean Bidwell
Saunders Douglas Adeyemi Forrester
BWP Donaldson

But I think he will ditch the wide players and play Forshaw and Diagouraga. I think both of those will do a good job anyway and Toumani would be unlucky to be left out after a good display V Hartlepool. I think Saunders adds a lot from dead ball positions so should play.
I wish we didn't have a makeshift centre-back - always thought it would have been wise to have kept Legge on loan at Gillingham til end of season, for just such a scenario.
I hope Uwe plays the creative players who make things happen, such as Tom and Harry, rather than playing safe with people like Hodson.
 

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Moore
Logan Dean Kev Bidwell
Douglas
Toumani Adeyemi Forshaw
BWP Clayton

Kevin is going to want this more than anyone. Reckon he'll be MOTM.
 

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Moore

Bidwell
Logan
Dean
Koc

Forshaw
Dave
Douglas
Adeyami

Clayton D

BWP

4411

We need some big lads to defend our lead against Paynter etc.
 

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I would like:

.............................Moore
Logan.............KOC.............Craig..............Bidwell
Foreshaw..Adeyemi/Toumani...Douglas....Forrester
..................BWP..........Donaldson

But suspenct it will be one of the following:

..............................Moore
Logan.............KOC.............Craig..............Bidwell
Adeyemi.......Toumani......Douglas........Forrester/Foreshaw
....................BWP..........Donaldson

or

.............................Moore
Logan.............KOC.............Craig..............Bidwell
Donaldson..Adeyemi...Toumani...Douglas....Forrester/Foreshaw
................................BWP

Would be reasonably confident with any of the 3 though. 5 in midfield is never a great precedent to set at home, but it is likely a physical Donny will have 5 in midfield so Uwe might not want to lose the game there.
 

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Moore
Logan Dean O'Connor Bidwell
Forshaw Adeyemi Douglas Forrester
Donaldson Trotta

Trotta gets the nod over BWP after Saturday as he got several strikes on target whereas BWP looks laboured. Saunders could feature if we are chasing, it as could Dallas.
 

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Adam said:
I would like:

.............................Moore
Logan.............KOC.............Craig..............Bidwell
Foreshaw..Adeyemi/Toumani...Douglas....Forrester
..................BWP..........Donaldson

But suspenct it will be one of the following:

..............................Moore
Logan.............KOC.............Craig..............Bidwell
Adeyemi.......Toumani......Douglas........Forrester/Foreshaw
....................BWP..........Donaldson

or

.............................Moore
Logan.............KOC.............Craig..............Bidwell
Donaldson..Adeyemi...Toumani...Douglas....Forrester/Foreshaw
................................BWP

Would be reasonably confident with any of the 3 though. 5 in midfield is never a great precedent to set at home, but it is likely a physical Donny will have 5 in midfield so Uwe might not want to lose the game there.
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I can absolutely guarantee you that it won't be either of these teams :D
 

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Adam said:
:banghead:

I'm an idiot. You know who/what I mean anyway! :D
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People with first names for surname- easily done mate!

I think the side has to have Adeyemi in it(if fit)and I wouldn't mind seeing Reeves come on to unlock them. In two minds whether Harry or Sam play. Sammy's dead ball delivery could be handy but Forrester loves these types of occasion. On the other hand not sure he will be more effective coming on when the legs of the Donny players are going. But all of this irrelevant because I think Donaldson will run them ragged.

Moore
Logan
KK
Dean
Bidwell
Adeyemi
Diagouraga
Forshaw
Saunders/Forrester
Donaldson
BWP
 
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Downbeat Bee said:
Moore
Logan-Dean-O'Connor-Bidwell
Adeyemi-Diag-Douglas-Forrester
BWP-Donaldson

subs to include: Forshaw, El Ag, Reeves,Saunders, Trotta,
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No start for Forshaw... Best player this season - has to play.
 

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Wise old Bee said:
Moore
Logan Dean O'Connor Bidwell
Forshaw Adeyemi Douglas Forrester
Donaldson Trotta

Trotta gets the nod over BWP after Saturday as he got several strikes on target whereas BWP looks laboured. Saunders could feature if we are chasing, it as could Dallas.
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Purely from the Bees Player Trotta did look a class above.
Hey Uwe will fool us all and play all three of Trotta Clayton and BWP with a midfield three of Forshaw Adeyemi and Douglas!
Think somewhat unlikely but its an option for late in game if need be. Uwe will though be considering Trotta over BWP but ultimately will want the most mobile team out there and that has to include BWP and Donaldson up front with Forrester joimning in in attack
 

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Probably one of the toughest games to pick an XI for. So many permutations in the midfield and forward lines.

The defence should pick itself.

Moore
Logan Dean KOC Bidwell

Then it's 4 or 5 in the middle from 7 players and 1 or 2 up front from 3 players. Some tough decisions to make.
 

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Moore

Logan KingKev Dean Bidwell

Douglas

Forshaw Adeyemi

Saunders

BWP Donaldson

subs : Gounet; Forrester; Farid; Dave; Dallas; Trotta.

How can we not win with that? ;)

( I would usually opt for the best possible players, but Forrester replaced by saunders as we might just win automatic promotion by a set piece or two if donny park the bus)
 

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LewisLeBee said:
Moore

Logan KingKev Dean Bidwell

Douglas

Forshaw Adeyemi

Saunders

BWP Donaldson

subs : Gounet; Forrester; Farid; Dave; Dallas; Trotta.

How can we not win with that? ;)

( I would usually opt for the best possible players, but Forrester replaced by saunders as we might just win automatic promotion by a set piece or two if donny park the bus)
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This team offers us no width and we will need that against Doncaster especially otherwise their wide players will have free rein on our full backs. This is a game for Saunders to come off bench when pace has dropped. Whoever plays on our right side of midfield (Forshaw or Adeyemi) will naturally be pulled more central so Logan will need to be on his mettle althpough I am expecting a barn storming performance from Clayton playing right mid/ back one moment right wing the next and centre forward the next!
 

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Logan----Dean----kev----Bidwell
--------------Douglas----------------
Forshaw---Adeyemi---Forrester
-----Donaldson-----BWP----------
 

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Moore

Logan - Dean - :kingkev: - Bidwell

Douglas

Forshaw - Adeyemi

Forrester

Donaldson - BWP

Subs: Gournet, Pierre, Dave, Reeves, Saunders, Farid, Trotta
 

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Logan well below par v Portsmouth and Pool. Can't say for the SU game but I'd keep him on the bench. high anxiety player and too many mistakes and wayward balls of late. Hodson more experienced, more classy, calmer and FAR better delivery.

But of course, we all cite our favourite lineup rather arbitrarily here, what matters is how UR and team analyse the stats and work out the best players to defeat their counterparts, as they did so well v Chelsea at home (and 1st half away). The fittest selection able to play at high tempo with some tweaks to counter Donny's likely formation, would be good. In AK and UR we trust.
 
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Very tough one to call, play to our strength and have graft and creativity in midfield (Saunders, Forshaw, Forrester), go offensive with BWP, Trotta and Clayton up front or put a team up against who we are playing, physical less skilful, likely to be more like Sheffield utd game and play diamond with deep midfielder protecting.

Don't know as whenever I have guessed, lucky to get 6 names right.

Either way, unless we romp away in the first half, this will go down to the wire, even if we got a 2-0 lead with 10 mins to go, see how it turned against Portsmouth. I fear it will be 0-0 at half time, we will score and then turn defensive for the rest of the game if only 15 mins left, very dangerous.....

Hopefully I am wrong and a red card doesn't change the whole game either way.
 

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B2B said:
Really? After all I have personally done to ensure days like next week can come around you throw that one? I'm prepared to accept most things but really!

Suggest you do some research.
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Sorry Mr. Benham.
 

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The Cat said:
No start for Forshaw?... Best player this season - has to play.
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:imwith: We'll need clever passes to thread through to Clayton and BWP/Rodney. Adam's the man and would be first on my midfield list. Hopefully a fit Tom for momentum, JD to boss the middle and Harry for width and to put them on the back foot.

Dropping Shay after one poor performance in a fantastic season would be daft. We need him and Jake bombing up and down. The youngsters have done the job in the first 45 games; they'll do it again on Saturday.
 
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