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BFC1997 said:
Toney gets an enforced rest.

Sounds like Nørgaard will be in contention.

Pretty important game, how would you line up? I’d go with:

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That diamond at the top end of the pitch could do some serious damage (in both ways). If we start with this, and those front 4 turn up bang on it.. Boyy, it'd be a long day for the forest defenders
 

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At least we have a week to hatch an alto Toney plan this season.
 

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Raya

Ajer Mee Pinnock Henry
Jensen Janelt Damsgaard
Da Silva Mbeumo Lewis-potter

I don't think we would risk Norgaard from the start even if he's in the squad.

I reckon it will be Mbuemo down the middle and Da Silva taking his place as one of the front 3. With Toney out I think JDS will help us hold the ball up high up the pitch and we have started him there a couple of times e.g. home game against Newcastle last season albeit he was sent off early on that day!
 

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Presuming Jensen isn’t fit would like to see:

Raya
Ajer Mee Pinnock Henry
Janelt Norgaard Damsgaard
Mbeumo Wissa KLP

If Norgaard isn’t fit then Dasilva comes in with Janelt dropping into the 6.

However have a horrible feeling that with no Toney Frank will revert to 3-5-2 and we’ll unfortunately see something like :

Raya
Ajer Mee Pinnock
Canos Dasilva Norgaard Janelt Henry
Mbeumo Wissa
 

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Would like to see

Raya
Roerslev Mee Pinnock Henry
Jensen Norgaard
Mbeumo Damsgaard LewisPotter
Wissa

If the following not available then

Norgaard - Janelt
Jensen - Baptise
 

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definitely gotta bee a 4-3-3 formation (or variation of) as 3-5-2/5-3-2 is our away day recipe for defensive shambles.
maybe a slight shake up of the starters too? as there's a suspicion some have become a bit comfortable.
wissa will play through the middle (and he needs to grab his undeserved fortune at toney's suspension)
let's see canos and klp on right and left wing, give damsgaard a start as an attacking midfielder.
mbeumo can warm the bench for a change.
back four to remain the same with only ajer possibly dropped for roerslev.
a norgaard return would be a massive boost.
can't help thinking we're not playing our game and worrying too much about our opponents this year.
let's put forest to the sword!
 

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Same back 4
Norgaard and Janelt start together, please
Wissa , Canos, Ghoddos, KLP, finally get their opportunities.
 

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Assuming Norgaard will not start:

Raya

Ayer Mee Pinnock Rico

Da Silva Janelt Jensen (Damsgaard if not fit)

Canos Mbuemo Damsgaard (KLP if Jensen not fit)
 

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Many of you are making much to many changes. That is not needed. We haven't lost 5 in a row and are in a relegation battle.

Norgaard would be nice, but if he's ready - from the start or from the bench - he will probably not be able to play more than half an hour. That indicates he starts as a sub.

The attack is the interesting part without Toney. Forest usually plays rather deep, so we need to have some pace up front. Wissa and Mbeumo have to step up. Canos could be possibility, but I'll go with KLP.
 

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Dynamite said:
Many of you are making much to many changes. That is not needed. We haven't lost 5 in a row and are in a relegation battle.

Norgaard would be nice, but if he's ready - from the start or from the bench - he will probably not be able to play more than half an hour. That indicates he starts as a sub.

The attack is the interesting part without Toney. Forest usually plays rather deep, so we need to have some pace up front. Wissa and Mbeumo have to step up. Canos could be possibility, but I'll go with KLP.
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KLP, Canos, Mbeumo is a pretty pacy front three all willing to run at opponents.

I think if Norgaard is fit enough to play he’ll start and be expected to do 90 unless we’re cruising or switching to a 2 man midfield to go all out attack late on (cf Liverpool at home last season). If not, he won’t even be on the bench as the only scenario TF would bring him on in is a bruising need to shore up the midfield late on and that’s the last thing he’d want to expose a partially fit key player to.
 

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4-3-3 ( if norgaard , jensen and baptiste injured)

RAYA _ PINNOCK _MEE _HENRY _ CANOS / AJER _ DASILVA_ DAMSGAARD _JANELT_ KLP _ MBEUMO _ WISSA / GHODDOS
 

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Very unlikely Norgaard will start which means Janelt has to, then it’s a case of whether Jensen is fit or not. Sounds like a dead leg so hopefully he’ll be fine. In which case I’d put him in with Damsgaard. Forest are likely to defend deep so we’ll need creativity on the ball to prise them open. Up front I think we should put Wissa central. He’s a cracking finisher in and around the box and with better players in midfield we may not have to go long so much..

Raya, Roerslev, Mee, Pinnock, Henry, Janelt, Jensen, Damsgaard, Canos, Wissa, Mbeumo

Subs: Cox, Ajer, Zanka, DaSilva, Ghoddos, Baptiste, KLP, Norgaard, Onyeka
 

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Mr Cynical said:
Very unlikely Norgaard will start which means Janelt has to, then it’s a case of whether Jensen is fit or not. Sounds like a dead leg so hopefully he’ll be fine. In which case I’d put him in with Damsgaard. Forest are likely to defend deep so we’ll need creativity on the ball to prise them open. Up front I think we should put Wissa central. He’s a cracking finisher in and around the box and with better players in midfield we may not have to go long so much..

Raya, Roerslev, Mee, Pinnock, Henry, Janelt, Jensen, Damsgaard, Canos, Wissa, Mbeumo

Subs: Cox, Ajer, Zanka, DaSilva, Ghoddos, Baptiste, KLP, Norgaard, Onyeka
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I don't think they will against us.
 

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Dynamite said:
Many of you are making much to many changes. That is not needed. We haven't lost 5 in a row and are in a relegation battle.

Norgaard would be nice, but if he's ready - from the start or from the bench - he will probably not be able to play more than half an hour. That indicates he starts as a sub.

The attack is the interesting part without Toney. Forest usually plays rather deep, so we need to have some pace up front. Wissa and Mbeumo have to step up. Canos could be possibility, but I'll go with KLP.
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Not sure I see many people making too many changes.

- Some are enforced (e.g we know Hickey and Jansson aren’t available)
- Some are linked to the fact 3-5-2 has served us abysmally away from home this season (not a single win, despite having played two promoted teams and several teams that find themselves at the wrong end of the table)
- The others are based on the fact our set up is designed with Toney up front. We have no one like for like (or even remotely similar) in the squad so will have to change the way we play to be a lot more like our championship style (more passing, fluid movement and less dynamic) which necessitates a change of personnel (and probably formation).
 

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beesbees_bfc said:
Not sure I see many people making too many changes.

- Some are enforced (e.g we know Hickey and Jansson aren’t available)
- Some are linked to the fact 3-5-2 has served us abysmally away from home this season (not a single win, despite having played two promoted teams and several teams that find themselves at the wrong end of the table)
- The others are based on the fact our set up is designed with Toney up front. We have no one like for like (or even remotely similar) in the squad so will have to change the way we play to be a lot more like our championship style (more passing, fluid movement and less dynamic) which necessitates a change of personnel (and probably formation).
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To be fair, they have big, slow units at the back, perm any two from Worrall, Cook, McKenna, Niakhate or Boli and if we can link up from midfield our nippy forwards might cause them more problems than Ivan who they will have planned to negate.
 

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sonofabee said:
To be fair, they have big, slow units at the back, perm any two from Worrall, Cook, McKenna, Niakhate or Boli and if we can link up from midfield our nippy forwards might cause them more problems than Ivan who they will have planned to negate.
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True, not saying we can’t beat them without him but will mean changes to the way we play and the personnel needed, which is why I don’t agree with Dynamite that people are suggesting too many changes.
 

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My starting 11
 

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neptune said:
4-3-3 ( if norgaard , jensen and baptiste injured)

RAYA _ PINNOCK _MEE _HENRY _ CANOS / AJER _ DASILVA_ DAMSGAARD _JANELT_ KLP _ MBEUMO _ WISSA / GHODDOS
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Ghoddos
Ghoddos Ghoddos Ghoddos Ghoddos
Ghoddos Ghoddos Ghoddos
Ghoddos Ghoddos Ghoddos

Just joking mate ?
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
KLP for Toney (with Wissa in the middle) and Damsgaard for Jensen if not fit. Norgaard sub.
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That seems entirely reasonable. Forest seem to have a pedestrian back line and, with Jensen or Damsgaard we should be able to explore space and get at them with a quick and mobile front line.
 

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If Norgaard isn't back - I was thinking after the match on Saturday how a midfield of Jensen (as dm) behind Josh and Damsgard would get on :sneakoff:
 

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unBEEliveable said:
If Norgaard isn't back - I was thinking after the match on Saturday how a midfield of Jensen (as dm) behind Josh and Damsgard would get on :sneakoff:
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Possible in theory. Jensen is actually quite decent at CDM but we’d need Damsgaard to do a lot more of the pressing and clever passing we normally get from Jensen now. On Saturday I thought JDS did a good box to box job and defended capably. But both he and MD are some way off being consistent enough at PL level in those roles.
 

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Nickabee said:
Where’s Bryan - this is a match he should excel in
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not in the team his finishing is woeful and always giving the ball away thinking he can beat everyone which causes us to be under unnecessary pressure.
 

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davewfilms said:
not in the team his finishing is woeful and always giving the ball away thinking he can beat everyone which causes us to be under unnecessary pressure.
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He has a good match Saturday and provided the cross for our goal
 

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Forest don't seem to react well to an organised press.......so we need to pick offensive players who are comfortable executing this tactic without looking like escapees from a puppy farm.
 

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Raya
Roerslev Ajer Mee Pinnock Henry
JDS Janelt Damsgaard*
Mbeumo KLP

*Only if Jensen isn't fit
 

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sonofabee said:
I’d be worried not enough steel or combativeness without Janelt or Oneyeke in a three if no Norgaard.
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Yeah get where you are coming from, although, tbh I haven't seen Forest at all this season do they have a fairly combative midfield?
 

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unBEEliveable said:
Yeah get where you are coming from, although, tbh I haven't seen Forest at all this season do they have a fairly combative midfield?
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I’m not 100% as it seems to change so regularly, Aidan O’Brien, Kouyate, Yates and Colbeck are all aggressive battlers
 

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sonofabee said:
I’m not 100% as it seems to change so regularly, Aidan O’Brien, Kouyate, Yates and Colbeck are all aggressive battlers
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From what i have seen from Yates, he seems to be a McTominay clone, runs about like a headless chicken kicking every oppo player from pillar to post with immunity from bookings.
 

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James30 said:
Why 5 at the back for forest we need to attack them
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We can attack from 5 at the back. We'll still have KLP, Mbeumo, JDS and Damsgaard/Jensen on the pitch, with overlapping wing backs and Ajer driving forward occasionally from RCB. I feel we set up so much better defensively with this formation.
Without Norgaard, 4 at the back away from home stinks of goals conceded and 0 points.
 

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IIRC Forest have conceded a load more goals from distance than anyone so it might in a funny way not be a Toney game but one where we just get the team be ready to let fly much earlier than we normally set up to. I think pretty much all our attacking players are capable of scoring with long range shots and Cooper will probably set up with a low block on the basis of our usual game play.
 

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YouReds123 said:
We can attack from 5 at the back. We'll still have KLP, Mbeumo, JDS and Damsgaard/Jensen on the pitch, with overlapping wing backs and Ajer driving forward occasionally from RCB. I feel we set up so much better defensively with this formation.
Without Norgaard, 4 at the back away from home stinks of goals conceded and 0 points.
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I don’t why everyone is saying without norgaard when Thomas has said he’s back next week ? 5 at the back away from home we’ve conceded 9 goals in 2 games mate 433 for me
 
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