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Real big game this one.

Not much of a turnaround after the Spurs game and then a Friday game follows next week too.

Don’t think there is unanimous agreement on our best system with the players we have available as we juggle injuries. So interested to see how people feel about how we should set up for this one.

Assuming no need to rest key players (a possibility in the case of Jansson for example) I would go with:

Alvaro
Roerslev Jannson Pinnock Henry
Norgaard
Baptiste Jensen
Mbeumo Toney Wissa

By shifting Mbeumo to wing back you can turn that into our usual 3-5-2 fairly easily if required.
 

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Goode Pinnock Sorensen

Roerslev Baptiste Norgaard Janelt Henry

Mbeumo Toney

Jannson needs a rest, assuming Sorensen is available id put him in.
Sergi has looked a little off the last 2 GW's
The Leeds game could be quite open and they don't have too much quality in the back, we could see alot of Toney/Mbeumo flick ons.
 

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Fernandez
Goode Jansson Pinnock
Canos Baptiste Norgaard Janelt Henry
Toney Wissa

Think Baptiste and Wissa have more than earned a start off the bench recently, and Bryan and Frank need a rest. Harsh on Jensen who I thought was good last night, but I think this game suits Janelt more. Very good argument to rest Sergi as he hasn’t been good since international break, however personally I wouldn’t feel confident throwing Roerslev straight in at Elland Road.
 

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Den99 said:
Goode Pinnock Sorensen

Roerslev Baptiste Norgaard Janelt Henry

Mbeumo Toney

Jannson needs a rest, assuming Sorensen is available id put him in.
Sergi has looked a little off the last 2 GW's
The Leeds game could be quite open and they don't have too much quality in the back, we could see alot of Toney/Mbeumo flick ons.
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Can’t drop your captain at a place like Ellan Road, he’ll be desperate to play this one as well, destined for his long awaited goal.
 

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Baptiste has to start this one and I think he will.

I imagine we'll see Roerslev (for Canos), Jensen (Janelt) and Wissa (Mbeumo) also come in, either for Leeds or Watford. With so many games this month we'll need some fresher legs and a bit of rotation.
 

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BFC1997 said:
Real big game this one.

Not much of a turnaround after the Spurs game and then a Friday game follows next week too.

Don’t think there is unanimous agreement on our best system with the players we have available as we juggle injuries. So interested to see how people feel about how we should set up for this one.

Assuming no need to rest key players (a possibility in the case of Jansson for example) I would go with:

Alvaro
Roerslev Jannson Pinnock Henry
Norgaard
Baptiste Jensen
Mbeumo Toney Wissa

By shifting Mbeumo to wing back you can turn that into our usual 3-5-2 fairly easily if required.
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Agree with this
 

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One thing is clear: the starting line-up from last night did not work and must be changed if we are to avoid slipping towards the relegation zone. As to the changes: It's worth considering bringing Norgaard back as the third central defender who can also emerge from defence with the ball rather than kicking it long, as tended to happen in the last two games. Janelt could then play as the sole defensive midfielder with Baptiste and Jensen in front of him. Or we could opt for a 4-3-3 that could accommodate Wissa. Basically anything except the line-up for the last two games, which leaves the front two ridiculously isolated and impels Toney to come looking for the ball all over the pitch.
 

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3-4-3 for me. This is a game we need to have attacking players in the pitch. Roeslev in for Canos. Wissa in for Onyeka - if he can do 90 mins - and play two no.10s off Toney.

We need to give it a shot at having Toney leading the line rather than dropping deep. Last night we offered very little threat so I think it's time we attacked a game rather than defended it.
 

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I cant work out if Bielsa is being complementary or having a dig at us in his press conference today

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On facing Brentford, the Leeds boss added: "A team that always attacks with six players. They have a general rush to be protagonists and they always try to keep the ball.

"Anyone who has seen Brentford play this season can see they attack with six players and try to keep the ball, that's not common in any league and even more so when that team is not in the most prestigious clubs in the league.""
 

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wibs said:
I cant work out if Bielsa is being complementary or having a dig at us in his press conference today

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On facing Brentford, the Leeds boss added: "A team that always attacks with six players. They have a general rush to be protagonists and they always try to keep the ball.

"Anyone who has seen Brentford play this season can see they attack with six players and try to keep the ball, that's not common in any league and even more so when that team is not in the most prestigious clubs in the league.""
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I'd say complimentary. Acknowledged we when can like to dominate possession and attack when we're brave enough too.
 

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wibs said:
I cant work out if Bielsa is being complementary or having a dig at us in his press conference today

"
On facing Brentford, the Leeds boss added: "A team that always attacks with six players. They have a general rush to be protagonists and they always try to keep the ball.

"Anyone who has seen Brentford play this season can see they attack with six players and try to keep the ball, that's not common in any league and even more so when that team is not in the most prestigious clubs in the league.""
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Not sure which games he's been watching but it sure as hell wasn't the last couple.
 

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Fernandez
Goode Jansson Pinnock
Roerslev Baptiste Norgaard Janelt Henry
Toney Wissa


My worries are Toney and Jansson looked spent at the end against Spurs. Canos has had 2 poor games in a row and Roerslev has impressed when he's come on. Baptiste was brilliant start of season and his appearances as sub last 2 matches show how much we need him. Mbeumo needs to be taken out of the firing line. Seems all the focus on his woodwork shots has broken his confidence and he's making bad decisions. Is Wissa fit to start though? TF said Forss didn't do enough to retain his place in this system so do we give him another chance? Would be happy for NYC to have a 20 minute cameo at the end
 

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Den99 said:
Goode Pinnock Sorensen

Roerslev Baptiste Norgaard Janelt Henry

Mbeumo Toney

Jannson needs a rest, assuming Sorensen is available id put him in.
Sergi has looked a little off the last 2 GW's
The Leeds game could be quite open and they don't have too much quality in the back, we could see alot of Toney/Mbeumo flick ons.
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I certainly agree we need to be positive for this one but going in without a keeper is a risk too far for me! :)
 

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Whether the issue with FTT is that he is taking time to adjust or simply not good enough, I don't think he is doing enough to merit a starting place. Vitaly is working very hard but is also a bit out of sorts by his normal high standards, though I would start him. Baptiste MUST start. Canos looks shot. So:

Fernandez

Goode Jansson Pinnock

Roerslev Baptiste Norgaard Vitaly Rico

Mbuemo Toney
 

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Shandon in for FTT is the only change I would make.

As good as Jensen was against Spurs, they gave him the freedom and time on the ball due to being 2 up, I don't see Leeds giving him that freedom.
 

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BFC1997 said:
Real big game this one.

Not much of a turnaround after the Spurs game and then a Friday game follows next week too.

Don’t think there is unanimous agreement on our best system with the players we have available as we juggle injuries. So interested to see how people feel about how we should set up for this one.

Assuming no need to rest key players (a possibility in the case of Jansson for example) I would go with:

Alvaro
Roerslev Jannson Pinnock Henry
Norgaard
Baptiste Jensen
Mbeumo Toney Wissa

By shifting Mbeumo to wing back you can turn that into our usual 3-5-2 fairly easily if required.
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It'd match Leeds up in a 4-1-4-1 but it'll never happen as that's their default system and from reading the transcript of the TF GPG interview that formation has (unfortunately) been put in moth balls.

Not knocking your selection btw as I'd have liked to have seen this at the start of the season as a default system alongside the 5-3-2/3-5-2.
 

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A word on our midfield unit.

For me, for two good years in the Championship, our best trio was without doubt:

Norgaard
Dasilva Jensen

It’s proven to be the most “well balanced” and effective combination of three we have had, IMO.

Owing to injuries we got over the line last season with a different system and personnel (although not without a few slip-ups) and have had to continue with something similar this season. We’ve just not really had a chance to revert back to what worked so well originally.

We now, I believe, have a chance to replicate that original set up (with Baptiste in for JDS) and I think we should give it a proper go.

Now that we are at a higher level the temptation would be to continue to stick with Janelt and/or Onyeka in there as they would be considered to have stronger defensive attributes. But I think we clearly need to be braver and as Frank himself says “if you are not taking risks then you are also taking a risk”.
 

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Fernandez
Roerslev Jansson Pinnock Henry
Norgaard Baptiste Janelt
Mbuemo Toney Wissa

I think our right hand flank is being defensively exploited with a ball straight into the channel and I think against Leeds we need more ball players or we are going to struggle to keep hold of the ball.
 

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Fernandez
Goode Jansson Pinnock
Roerslove Baptiste Norgaard Janelt Henry
Toney Wissa

Definitely need to freshen a couple up, plus the additional quality and creativity of Baptiste and Wissa will be helpful. This is assuming Wissa is fit enough to start the game.
 

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A word on our midfield unit.

For me, for two good years in the Championship, our best trio was without doubt:

Norgaard
Dasilva Jensen

It’s proven to be the most “well balanced” and effective combination of three we have had, IMO.

Owing to injuries we got over the line last season with a different system and personnel (although not without a few slip-ups) and have had to continue with something similar this season. We’ve just not really had a chance to revert back to what worked so well originally.

We now, I believe, have a chance to replicate that original set up (with Baptiste in for JDS) and I think we should give it a proper go.

Now that we are at a higher level the temptation would be to continue to stick with Janelt and/or Onyeka in there as they would be considered to have stronger defensive attributes (not a direct criticism of them by the way). But I think we clearly need to be braver and as Frank himself says “if you are not taking risks then you are also taking a risk”.
 

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Sorry can mods clean up the duplicate post
 

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TOXIC BEE said:
Can’t drop your captain at a place like Ellan Road, he’ll be desperate to play this one as well, destined for his long awaited goal.
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Coldish October 2018 lunchtime kick off at Elland Rd. Dean Smith’s last game, I think. Neal (of course) gives us lead through a second half penalty and it gets a bit feisty. Pontus equaliser for them just before FT. Payback time therefore.
Meanwhile, I suggest:
Alvaro
Roerslev Pontus Ethan Rico
Norgaard
Baptiste Jensen
Wissa Ivan Bryan

Not necessarily a criticism of those rested, but need to freshen things up a bit.
 

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I'd be surprised if we lined up with 4 at the back - reading the brilliant interview with Thomas Frank (on a website not a million miles away from this page) he suggests the team have practised 5-3-2 and 3-4-3. Canos and Bryan look spent.

With that in mind, I'd suggest;

Alvaro
Goode Pontus Ethan
Mads Rico
Norgaard
Baptiste Janelt
Wissa Ivan
 

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Have go bring in Jensen & give Wissa a start. Bryan needs a rest & perhaps Sergi. Also Baptiste for Frank who struggles lately for me. Need creativity
 

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I think i'd like someone who's able to bring the ball out from the back. With no Ajer there's only one man that can do that.... I also think Wissa is worth a run out whilst Bryan could possibly do with a rest. I'd also consider Roerselv for Canos.... The only thing i'm really worried about with Leeds is they don't let you have too much time on the ball.... so maybe playing Jensen is optimistic and bringing in Onyeka might be a better option (although he was poor v Spurs). Anyway this is my lineup:

Alvaro
Canos Pontus Norgaard Ethan Rico
Janelt Baptiste Jensen
Wissa Ivan
 

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I think the high intensity of how we play and the PL is catching up on us and some players will need rotating going into this festive period.

Fernandez

Norgaard Pontus Pinnock

Frank Baptiste Janelt Rico

MB Forss Wissa

Canos needs a rest, and we can't play Toney every 90 mins clearly carrying some form of minor knock.

Frank will give energy down that side. Use our left side as our main attacking outlet. Norgaard to give us some attacking output from the back 3.

Might get slated for it but it's a option lol
 

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wibs said:
I cant work out if Bielsa is being complementary or having a dig at us in his press conference today

"
On facing Brentford, the Leeds boss added: "A team that always attacks with six players. They have a general rush to be protagonists and they always try to keep the ball.

"Anyone who has seen Brentford play this season can see they attack with six players and try to keep the ball, that's not common in any league and even more so when that team is not in the most prestigious clubs in the league.""
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Probably lost in translation. He doesn't speak a word of English.
 

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Teams for Leeds Away:

Fernandez

Goode
Jansson
Pinnock

Roerslev
Norgaard
Baptiste
Jensen
Henry

Toney
Wissa

Think it’s gonna be very hard to convince Pontus to sit out of this one ?.

In terms of resting players, gonna have to be very smart about it. Almost an argument to say perhaps Ivan should’ve been rested against Spurs, given the possibility of points is arguably greater here. Of course Ivan and Wissa haven’t had a lot of time together, so we’ll see how it pans out. Bryan needs some time out. Love Vitaly but agree with that a lot of people have said about him seeing a bit off it. But our defending seems to be more resolute, let’s just fix the gap between midfield and attack

Come on Bees ??.
 

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IslandBee said:
Whether the issue with FTT is that he is taking time to adjust or simply not good enough, I don't think he is doing enough to merit a starting place. Vitaly is working very hard but is also a bit out of sorts by his normal high standards, though I would start him. Baptiste MUST start. Canos looks shot. So:

Fernandez

Goode Jansson Pinnock

Roerslev Baptiste Norgaard Vitaly Rico

Mbuemo Toney
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Have to agree FTT has not looked as good post Covid. But then perhaps all players were performing better during that initial honeymoon period, which lifted him too. Who knows?

Either way we could use a ball carrying mf like Baptiste at the moment, so think he will replace Frank.

As for the rest, not sure. Time to give Wissa a run maybe? TF might think it is time to go 343, although I doubt that until Ajer is fit. So think we will line up like this...


Alvaro
Goode PJ Ethan
Sergi CN Vitaly Baptiste Henry
Ivan Wissa
 

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Thomas has also got to bear in mind with the upcoming fixtures that when picking the team Norgarrd & Canos are both only1 more yellow card away from automatic suspension I believe, And we definitely need Norgaard for every game.
 

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Wissa will not start as noted by TF, he's not match fit for 90 minutes.
 

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TOXIC BEE said:
Fernandez
Goode Jansson Pinnock
Canos Baptiste Norgaard Janelt Henry
Toney Wissa

Think Baptiste and Wissa have more than earned a start off the bench recently, and Bryan and Frank need a rest. Harsh on Jensen who I thought was good last night, but I think this game suits Janelt more. Very good argument to rest Sergi as he hasn’t been good since international break, however personally I wouldn’t feel confident throwing Roerslev straight in at Elland Road.
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This is the same team I'd go for. Think we need fresh legs after playing same 11 in last 2 games. Baptiste and Wissa look strongest options
 

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Don’t envy Thomas for this one , either way we’ve been dealt a pretty crap hand with this fixture falling so soon after the Spurs game and Leeds with their high energy press having a full 2 days extra rest after their morale boosting late win v Palace.
His press conference seemed to cast doubt on wether Baptiste or Wissa had enough fitness to start , that maybe a bit of mind games we shall see but ideally those 2 to start plus Roerslev for Canos , Mbuemo and FTT also to be rested.
 

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Balders Bee said:
Wissa will not start as noted by TF, he's not match fit for 90 minutes.
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“It could be early for him to start but let’s see”. Never said he won’t start, never said he’s not match fit.
 

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We need to make a few changes just for rotation and fitness but no need for binning a formation which generally works well for us. I'd rest Sergi, Ethan, Vitaly and Bryan all of whom look a bit tired and jaded compared with their usual selves and drop FTT who just isn't playing very well at the moment.

Fernandez

Goode Jansson MBS

Roerslev Norgaard Baptiste Jensen Henry

Wissa Toney

If Wissa not fit enough to start then maybe bring in Forss. Ghoddos for Baptiste likewise. Leeds are the sort of team where we can get the ball in the box more often and Marcus is still a very good finisher!

Subs: Cox, Canos, Pinnock, Stevens, FTT, Janelt, Wissa/Forss, Mbeumo, Ghoddos/Baptiste

It's not the end of the world if we don't get anything from this game - it's a tough away fixture in a very crowded schedule
 

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........................................Fernandez
..........................Goode Jansson Pinnock
...............Roerslev Norgaard Baptiste Henry
........................ Mbuemo Toney Canos

Wissa Janelt subbed on at some point
 

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Den99 said:
Goode Pinnock Sorensen

Roerslev Baptiste Norgaard Janelt Henry

Mbeumo Toney

Jannson needs a rest, assuming Sorensen is available id put him in.
Sergi has looked a little off the last 2 GW's
The Leeds game could be quite open and they don't have too much quality in the back, we could see alot of Toney/Mbeumo flick ons.
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I'd love to see the look on Pontus' face if TF said "I'm dropping you for our first PL match at Elland Road"...
Ain't going to happen!
 

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TOXIC BEE said:
“It could be early for him to start but let’s see”. Never said he won’t start, never said he’s not match fit.
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I said "match fit for 90 minutes: which is a fair inference from what TF said.
 

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londondude said:
Id go

Fernandez
Jansson Norgaard Pinnock
Roerslev Jansen Janelt Baptise Henry
Toney Wissa
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Yep, I have wondered too whether we might see CN drop back again, particularly until Ajer is back. I think it could work but doubt we will see it today.
 

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londondude said:
Id go

Fernandez
Jansson Norgaard Pinnock
Roerslev Jansen Janelt Baptise Henry
Toney Wissa
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Good team selection. I can see why Norgaard could play out, but I’d be concerned about losing his presence in midfield. Apart from that, I’m liking this.
 
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