The Andy Scott Thread

The Andy Scott Thread

Time to close this thread me thinks.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

can we close this thread as the long term signing of wojeich means that it now makes no sense????? :D
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I suspect that if we have a bad result on Saturday, there will be some hysterical posters back on this thread, clamouring for Scott to go.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I think the key factor here is that Andy has clearly made some mistakes, but unlike previous managers - even the "great" Martin Allen - he has learnt from those mistakes, and made good decisions to amend them. MA for example, sadly never did figure out how to protect a lead, or what to do when a goal up, ten minutes to go, and under the cosh. Yes Andy made a couple of duff signings, but rather than persevere blindly, he made changes that were both good, and pretty quick too. Maybe Matthew Benham's input has helped in this, but nonetheless i am more confident in Andy Scott than i have been in any BFC manager for a long long time.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I think the key factor here is that Andy has clearly made some mistakes, but unlike previous managers - even the "great" Martin Allen - he has learnt from those mistakes, and made good decisions to amend them. MA for example, sadly never did figure out how to protect a lead, or what to do when a goal up, ten minutes to go, and under the cosh. Yes Andy made a couple of duff signings, but rather than persevere blindly, he made changes that were both good, and pretty quick too. Maybe Matthew Benham's input has helped in this, but nonetheless i am more confident in Andy Scott than i have been in any BFC manager for a long long time.

:imwith:
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I think the key factor here is that Andy has clearly made some mistakes, but unlike previous managers - even the "great" Martin Allen - he has learnt from those mistakes, and made good decisions to amend them. MA for example, sadly never did figure out how to protect a lead, or what to do when a goal up, ten minutes to go, and under the cosh. Yes Andy made a couple of duff signings, but rather than persevere blindly, he made changes that were both good, and pretty quick too. Maybe Matthew Benham's input has helped in this, but nonetheless i am more confident in Andy Scott than i have been in any BFC manager for a long long time.

Great Post !!!!
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I think the key factor here is that Andy has clearly made some mistakes, but unlike previous managers - even the "great" Martin Allen - he has learnt from those mistakes, and made good decisions to amend them.

I think Andy Scott hit on the magic formula for the current transfer window while speaking to Arsene Wenger.

He realised that he was building a youthful team and also used name association Arsene = Arsenal

Scotty being :cool: decided to use his own name and do the same to pick players,

AS = Ainsworth & Smith as well as Akinde & Szczesny roflrofl

Really hope it works and some of the transfer windfall from Turner & Elder dosn't go to waste :sorted:
 

The Andy Scott Thread

You could tell how pleased AS was at the end of the game on Saturday, applauding the fans and punching the air.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

3-0 in 35 minutes and we didn't know what to do. Where was his plan B?
Scott Out!
:D
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I think Andy Scott hit on the magic formula for the current transfer window while speaking to Arsene Wenger.

He realised that he was building a youthful team and also used name association Arsene = Arsenal

Scotty being :cool: decided to use his own name and do the same to pick players,

AS = Ainsworth & Smith as well as Akinde & Szczesny roflrofl

Really hope it works and some of the transfer windfall from Turner & Elder dosn't go to waste :sorted:


Is he trying to sign some C's... if so, Rowlands might come back when fit...
 

The Andy Scott Thread

On the 24th Feb, Andy Scott will have been in charge longer than Martin Allen. (2 years 2 months 13-ish days)

The longest occupant of the hot seat, since Dave Webb (just under 4 years 3 months)
 

The Andy Scott Thread

Let's only ressurect this thread should we lose the play offs final;)
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I would love to see AS here for as long as possible !
 

The Andy Scott Thread

The Andy Scott Thread

If I hear again how clever AS in the transfer market I'll scream, at least half have been total cack, so he has to replace our 'team' with a load of loans, which cost us a frikin fortune.

This is just my opinion on the signings Scott has made since he took over.

Great

Ryan Dickson
Charlie MacDonald
Woiciech Szczesny
Myles Weston
Billy Clarke
Ben Hamer
Jordan Rhodes

Good

Pim Balkestein
Marcus Bean
Alan Bennett
Danny Foster
David Hunt
Leon Legge (potential to be great)
Mark Phillips
Tommy Smith
James Wilson
Sam Wood
Brett Johnson
Adam Newton
Sam Williams
Nathan Elder

OK

John Bostock
Carl Cort
Rhys Murphy
Sam Saunders
Ben Strevens
Marvin Williams
Dean Bowditch
John Halls

Poor

Steve Kabba
Lewis Price
Cleveland Taylor
Darren Powell
Reuben Reid
Moses Ademola

Very Poor



Jury Out

Lionel Ainsworth
John Akinde
Nikki Bull
Toumani Diagouraga

Didn't Play Enough Games

Frankie Artus
Mikkel Andersen
Josh Wright
Eric Odhiambo
Damian Scannell
Damian Spencer
Robert Milsom
Osei Sankofa
Craig Stone
Wayne Brown

Feel free to disagree away. It's safe to assume that "at least half have been total cack" is absolute b***ocks.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I think Marvin Williams is lucky to have got into "OK" , I think he would go into "poor" apart from that pretty fair tbh
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I've had Terry Butcher on the phone asking if you can include Lee Thorpe and John Mackie on the list.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

You seem to be a man who like lists Mr Salford! :sorted:

Lists are safe, lists don't lie, lists don't let you down, lists are one of the good things in this world. I love lists! ;)
 

The Andy Scott Thread

There's some names on there I had completely forgotten about:eek:

Was Sammy Moore a Butcher signing? Otherwise he would go in the good category.

Think I mught have put Murphy in the not enough games column and Bull may well have to stay in the Jury Out column.

Could you (the Royal You)also look at the players Scott has got shot of and the time at which he got shot and analyse the effect it had on the team

ie Connell was let go, did it really harm us in the long run
 

The Andy Scott Thread

I've had Terry Butcher on the phone asking if you can include Lee Thorpe and John Mackie on the list.

I've ignored them because while Scott may have suggested those players it was Butcher who signed them.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

There's some names on there I had completely forgotten about:eek:

Was Sammy Moore a Butcher signing? Otherwise he would go in the good category.

Think I mught have put Murphy in the not enough games column and Bull may well have to stay in the Jury Out column.

Could you (the Royal You)also look at the players Scott has got shot of and the time at which he got shot and analyse the effect it had on the team

ie Connell was let go, did it really harm us in the long run

The last four in not enough games I can't remember them at all. Others might remember them.

Sammy Moore was a Butcher signing.

Of those he got rid of I'd only have liked to have seen Poole stay. I'd have kept Elder but wouldn't have turned down the Shrewsbury offer.

Just going on a starting eleven from Wrexham 2007 to Walsall 2010:

Simon Brown - Woiciech Szczesny (Szczesny)
Ben Starosta - Danny Foster (Foster)
Matt Heywood - Leon Legge (Legge)
Karleigh Osborne - Mark Phillips (Phillips)**
Darius Charles - Tommy Smith (Smith)**
Charlie Ide - Sam Saunders (Saunders)
Kevin O'Connor - Kevin O'Connor
Gary Smith - Toumani Diagouraga (Diagouraga)
Glenn Poole* - Myles Weston (Weston)
Alan Connell - Charlie MacDonald (MacDonald)
Lee Thorpe - Ben Strevens (Strevens)

*Dickson started on the left wing however is now a left back so used Poole who came on for him.
**Dickson would normally be at left back and Smith in the middle. Both would be my preferred choice.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

interesting work salford bee. many thanks
 

The Andy Scott Thread

This is just my opinion on the signings Scott has made since he took over.
Poor

Steve Kabba
Lewis Price
Cleveland Taylor
Darren Powell
Reuben Reid
Moses Ademola


Jury Out

Lionel Ainsworth
John Akinde
Nikki Bull
Toumani Diagouraga

Didn't Play Enough Games

Frankie Artus
Mikkel Andersen
Josh Wright
Eric Odhiambo
Damian Scannell
Damian Spencer
Robert Milsom
Osei Sankofa
Craig Stone
Wayne Brown

Feel free to disagree away. It's safe to assume that "at least half have been total cack" is absolute b***ocks.

you 'label' these as poor, remind me how many games they played (each) please. :wave:

The you label some as not having played enough games to comment. :confused:

very odd.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

you 'label' these as poor, remind me how many games they played (each) please. :wave:

The you label some as not having played enough games to comment. :confused:

very odd.

It could be argued that as AS didn't rate them good enough to start, they were poor signings. The point I think Salford Bee is making is not that the players themselves are poor, but the signing by Scott was.
 

The Andy Scott Thread

you 'label' these as poor, remind me how many games they played (each) please. :wave:

The you label some as not having played enough games to comment. :confused:

very odd.

It's a fair question and one that I'm going to answer by explaining my reasoning for my placing.

Steve Kabba - Signed on one year deal in August. Now on loan to Burton.
Lewis Price - Signed on one year loan deal. Now behind Szczesny (due to his poor performances)
Cleveland Taylor - Signed on one year deal in August. Now on loan to Burton.
Darren Powell - Had it not been for his foolish red card at Bournemouth he'd be in the Not many games column.
Reuben Reid - Just remember him not being very good. Did nothing when I saw him.
Moses Ademola - Was useless when I saw him. Just wasn't good enough.
 
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