The atmosphere.

[W_L]

I still, mainly away, see supporters who spend the game singing, getting the approval of their mates and gesturing to opposition fans... .

A must at an away game especially - I'd be disappointed if we had no fans who did this.

 

[W_L]

I'm sure many will disagree, but i think the Palace "Holmesdale Fanatics" section is quality.

Permanent noizy boyz which must give them an edge in tight home games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acuRSzn-zHw #Justsaying.

This nonsense Crystal Palace do (and now some others are following them) is absolutely hideous and has no place whatsoever in English football.

 

[gbems92]

That sort of thing has got people into hot water before
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-draft-pick-over-fake-crowd-noise-say-reports

(no idea if there's similar issues on this side of the pond)

Has anyone ever stuck cardboard cutouts of people to seats to make the stadium look fuller?

 

[tobymaxtonesmith]

Has anyone ever stuck cardboard cutouts of people to seats to make the stadium look fuller?

They do that in quite a few football films to make the ground look full.

 

[tobymaxtonesmith]

Let's be fair to Palace fans - they're pioneers and, whether you like their style or not, in the end they get the job done. I.e. they make enough noise to give their side a real edge. I'd never want ultras and drums at Brentford, but it's better than having no atmosphere at all.

 

[hanworthbee]

What exactly is an ultra in England and what's wrong with them?.........

 

[tobymaxtonesmith]

What exactly is an ultra in England and what's wrong with them?.........

I guess the main difference between ultras and traditional English fans is that everything ultras do is more planned and choreographed. Think big displays, lots of flags, everyone wearing the same thing and someone 'conducting' the crowd who stands with his back to the game. They pride themselves on singing all game no matter what the situation.

English fans tend to be much more spontaneous - maybe this goes beyond football as well. Instead of having big organised supporters groups we just turn up and let the atmosphere grow organically.

 

[Beezy]

This nonsense Crystal Palace do (and now some others are following them) is absolutely hideous and has no place whatsoever in English football.

Don't sit on the fence, either you like it or you dont..

 

[The Pipe]

Does this mean I have to cancel the band I had arranged to play throughout the game?????

 

[GuyBee]

Cant we get some recordings of some really loud fans or a game with a good atmosphere and just play them through speakers

Our PA system isnt up to it

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

I guess the main difference between ultras and traditional English fans is that everything ultras do is more planned and choreographed. Think big displays, lots of flags, everyone wearing the same thing and someone 'conducting' the crowd who stands with his back to the game. They pride themselves on singing all game no matter what the situation.

English fans tend to be much more spontaneous - maybe this goes beyond football as well. Instead of having big organised supporters groups we just turn up and let the atmosphere grow organically.

english (british) fans dont like being organised, dont like organisers and dont like organisations lol....we are notoriously stand off-ish, a bit suspicious and hate being told what to do, sing etc etc.....thats why it has never really caught on.....defo one for your europeans

 

[Les Beeavinu]

english (british) fans dont like being organised, dont like organisers and dont like organisations lol....we are notoriously stand off-ish, a bit suspicious and hate being told what to do, sing etc etc.....thats why it has never really caught on.....defo one for your europeans

Well said.

 

[IslandBee]

Let's be fair to Palace fans - they're pioneers and, whether you like their style or not, in the end they get the job done. I.e. they make enough noise to give their side a real edge. I'd never want ultras and drums at Brentford, but it's better than having no atmosphere at all.

The often fascist-sympathising Ultras should definitely not be the model, this should: http://www.sportsbooks.ltd.uk/shop/...-falling-in-love-with-a-radical-football-club

 

[tobymaxtonesmith]

The often fascist-sympathising Ultras should definitely not be the model, this should: http://www.sportsbooks.ltd.uk/shop/...-falling-in-love-with-a-radical-football-club

I don't want ultras to be raving lefties either. Would rather, if they existed, to be apolitical

 

[A Real Mysteron]

Personally I go to watch the game, not indulge in some copy cat activity of a bunch of raving neo fascists.

Drums and football are a no no.

 

[IslandBee]

I don't want ultras to be raving lefties either. Would rather, if they existed, to be apolitical

Being apolitical means accepting the way football is going and, in many cases, has gone ie corporatisation. So, sterilised stadia with no genuine atmosphere, fake flag wavers, loud PAs and wasted gas on flame throwers. It also means higher and higher prices. I am guessing that is not what you want. In Germany, and particularly at St Pauli, they are at least trying to resist this!

 

[tobymaxtonesmith]

Being apolitical means accepting the way football is going and, in many cases, has gone ie corporatisation. So, sterilised stadia with no genuine atmosphere, fake flag wavers, loud PAs and wasted gas on flame throwers. It also means higher and higher prices. I am guessing that is not what you want. In Germany, and particularly at St Pauli, they are at least trying to resist this!

Every German club pretty much has a good atmosphere. They don't all have to be Marxists like St. Pauli.

 

[nanny58]

toby you would have loved the ROYAL OAK proper bees fans in full voice and good acoustics ??????????thank martin lange for the demizeof g/p

 

[Beezy]

toby you would have loved the ROYAL OAK proper bees fans in full voice and good acoustics ??????????thank martin lange for the demizeof g/p

And for creating play offs...

 

[IslandBee]

Every German club pretty much has a good atmosphere. They don't all have to be Marxists like St. Pauli.

Yes, but I was talking about what is going on here. It is only by taking a more definite stand that we will be spared the insidious spread of the atmosphere-sucking, cultural banality that is corporate football.

 

[big neil]

someone 'conducting' the crowd who stands with his back to the game.

I always think the ones that do that are a bit weird, in a "it's all about me" kind of way.
Might as well be a steward if you ain't going to watch the game.

 

[tobymaxtonesmith]

Yes, but I was talking about what is going on here. It is only by taking a more definite stand that we will be spared the insidious spread of the atmosphere-sucking, cultural banality that is corporate football.

I'm all for campaigning to get cheaper tickets etc, but let's leave the Che Guevara images and Palestine flags at home.

 

[Billy Hunt]

I'm all for campaigning to get cheaper tickets etc, but let's leave the Che Guevara images and Palestine flags at home.

:thetruth: Well said, sir.

 

[aberdeenbee]

toby you would have loved the ROYAL OAK proper bees fans in full voice and good acoustics ??????????thank martin lange for the demizeof g/p

toby you would have loved the ROYAL OAK proper bees fans in full voice and good acoustics ??????????thank martin lange for the demizeof g/p

Often think I was born 20 years too late for 'proper' grounds and terracing no matter how sh*t and falling apart they were, though I'm glad I've at least experienced proper dumps that are now corporate sanitised bowls (layer road for example). Definitely been around during a pronounced change in football grounds...how long before no terracing in league football?

Sitting down feels wrong to me, doubt many fans of other clubs of my generation feel the same!! Probably misguided nostalgia but something has to be said for going to a dumpy sh*t northern ground

 

[SQUELCH]

How does that palace section get away with standing?

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

How does that palace section get away with standing?

Its a singing section........................................

 

[A Real Mysteron]

It's a bell end section.

 

[Nickabee]

I'm sure many will disagree, but i think the Palace "Holmesdale Fanatics" section is quality.

Permanent noizy boyz which must give them an edge in tight home games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acuRSzn-zHw #Justsaying.

Our away support is quality and at home, a few times this season, it's been proper, 'm just refering to getting the home noise going on the regular... Drum anyone..?

Check out Palace's result this season and they are better away . Staged atmosphere does not work .

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

Was a lot better at times today.................... Was thinking though i can not remember the last time i heard Hey Jude at a Bees game

 

[TW3Bee]

Quiet at times today, especially at the start, as Ipswich had gone 1 up before our game had started, and we started the game a bit slow.

Once the goals started going in our favour the noise level picked up, and didn't let up.

 

[badgerbee]

Was a lot better at times today.................... Was thinking though i can not remember the last time i heard Hey Jude at a Bees game

Heard it today on ER.....

 

[spirebee]

I wholeheartly apologise for trying to get the next generation of Bees fans by getting season tickets for my children (10 & 8).............. maybe we should all just allow them to fall into the peer pressure of school and just get them SKY TV and a Man Utd or Chavski shirt

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

You missed the point; the trend of the posts at the time were talking about the new fans, which I was also.
It's great to see the next generation come down with their loyal parents, but some of the first timers would be better off at the local cinema or sat in front of Sky.
Of course, singing is infectious and some of the regulars seem to have lost their voice....until today..... and hopefully Boro.

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

You missed the point; the trend of the posts at the time were talking about the new fans, which I was also.
It's great to see the next generation come down with their loyal parents, but some of the first timers would be better off at the local cinema or sat in front of Sky.
Of course, singing is infectious and some of the regulars seem to have lost their voice....until today..... and hopefully Boro.

erm, it wasnt a 3'0clock kick off chief lol lol lol

surely a champagne moment on its own lol lol

 

[Bigbee]

Was a lot better at times today.................... Was thinking though i can not remember the last time i heard Hey Jude at a Bees game

the puss faces in ER dont know it ,only ,we'll sing on our own

 

[ruislip bee]

Haven't heard 'with a B R E N T F O R D that team is Brentford' etc etc for years and years. A goal a goal is all we need!

 

[westwing]

A great atmosphere yesterday, would put a lot of Prem and championship clubs to shame.

 

[banburybee]

A great atmosphere yesterday, would put a lot of Prem and championship clubs to shame.

I agree I think a lot of the criticism of the atmosphere is actually people reflecting their own tension etc. for the most part I think the atmosphere is excellent and at times yesterday was absolutely electric.

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

A great atmosphere yesterday, would put a lot of Prem and championship clubs to shame.

agree,,,,thought it was very decent yesterday and will be even better this friday....you cant beat gp on a friday night under the lights in a massive game

 

[Gonads2]

Off thread a bit but the atmosphere away at Fulham will stay with me for the rest of my life!

 

[westwing]

agree,,,,thought it was very decent yesterday and will be even better this friday....you cant beat gp on a friday night under the lights in a massive game

GP will be rocking on Friday

 

[sonofabee]

agree,,,,thought it was very decent yesterday and will be even better this friday....you cant beat gp on a friday night under the lights in a massive game

It's going to be a brilliant atmosphere Friday, let's hope we hear "We are going up" loud as ever on 90 minutes as Boro players slump disconsolate on the pitch.

 

[JCMcBee]

...... 'fulham are you listening' blasting fro all sides of the ground will have the sky technicians adjusting the volume controls

 

[Delbee]

How about setting up a couple of microphones around the ground plug them into the PA system (I know its not that good) it may add some noise

 

[Indian Bee]

BeesUpRangersDown should be be in full voice on Friday …

also, I never actually noticed it until this season but why do we always sing 'who are you' after we have scored?

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I'm pretty useless at adding to the atmosphere on games like this I'm afraid - far too anxious.

 

[heebeegeebee]

Haven't heard 'with a B R E N T F O R D that team is Brentford' etc etc for years and years. A goal a goal is all we need!

I was only thinking about that one the other day ..needs to be revived on the ealing road .does Toby know the words to this one?

 

[tobymaxtonesmith]

I was only thinking about that one the other day ..needs to be revived on the ealing road .does Toby know the words to this one?

Yes

 

[ruislip bee]

Yes

Well get them singing it then. Some of us old ones might even join in!

 

[Bigbee]

BeesUpRangersDown should be be in full voice on Friday …

also, I never actually noticed it until this season but why do we always sing 'who are you' after we have scored?

Yes the song needs updating ,or maybe a Fulham and Rangers magamix. The answer to your question is that ER has a load of chav divs leading the singing

 

[aberdeenbee]

Haven't heard 'with a B R E N T F O R D that team is Brentford' etc etc for years and years. A goal a goal is all we need!

It was sung on Saturday...