The Toss

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The Toss

You can be forgiven for not giving one about such a usually trivial matter. But yesterday, in my mind at least, there seemed to be two, potentially conflicting, factors riding on the toss of the coin

1. The sun was cracking the flags in an early autumn sky. We knew from last week that it would be low enough in the second half to cause significant issues for the side defending the East Stand. Win or lose the toss, we hoped to be able to attack this end after half time.

2. We now have a plan in place, apparently to take the kick off, flood the opposition half and batter them into conceding within the first minute of each game.

I cannot remember for the life of me if we kicked off yesterday, but the fact that we didn’t score for over a minute of the match makes me wonder if we weren’t held up by having to regain possession from a Wolves kick-off. If this is true, we probably ended up with the best outcome in being allowed to switch ends. Or, did we win the toss and opt to choose which end to start at? Does anyone know? The evidence of many Wolves fans having to shield their eyes to see the action in the second half suggests that we got this right either way.

Am I overplaying this? Has the toss of a coin at a Brentford match become as significant as a coin toss at a cricket match? Or is this a bit of short-lived phenomenon until other sides adjust to us and we move on to the next stroke of imaginative genius (or until the sun disappears behind the clouds for the British winter)?
 

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They kicked off. I’m assuming they won toss elected to kick off and we elected to change ends to ensure lower sun in their keepers eyes 2nd half.
After their 2nd equaliser we kicked off and scored a 3rd inside 30 seconds
 

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They kicked off. I’m assuming they won toss elected to kick off and we elected to change ends to ensure lower sun in their keepers eyes 2nd half.
After their 2nd equaliser we kicked off and scored a 3rd inside 30 seconds
Yep. (y)
Close thread!! :D
 

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They kicked off. I’m assuming they won toss elected to kick off and we elected to change ends to ensure lower sun in their keepers eyes 2nd half.
After their 2nd equaliser we kicked off and scored a 3rd inside 30 seconds
That last bit escaped me. I knew it was quick but didn’t realise it was that quick.
 

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There have been so many ridiculous rule changes over the years and ‘tweaks’ that didn’t need to be made. But I’ve never really understood why the coin toss still exists. Wouldn’t it just be easier for the home team to be given the choice of kick-off or which end to attack first?
 

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There have been so many ridiculous rule changes over the years and ‘tweaks’ that didn’t need to be made. But I’ve never really understood why the coin toss still exists. Wouldn’t it just be easier for the home team to be given the choice of kick-off or which end to attack first?
Is there a traditional way of deciding this that doesn't involve a coin?
 

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Arm wrestling?
 

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Drawn cup matches & finals in europe were decided on a 'toss' back in the day .
 

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Drawn cup matches & finals in europe were decided on a 'toss' back in the day .
Yes, before penalties that was standard way of deciding winners in drawn two legged ties. Celtic got through against Benfica in 1969 via that method.
 

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There have been so many ridiculous rule changes over the years and ‘tweaks’ that didn’t need to be made. But I’ve never really understood why the coin toss still exists. Wouldn’t it just be easier for the home team to be given the choice of kick-off or which end to attack first?
Because there isn't always a home club. Also, this rule has never changed for as long as I can remember.
 

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Because there isn't always a home club. Also, this rule has never changed for as long as I can remember.
Yeah, that's all very well but why can't we advocate changing it just to be arsey & difficult?
 

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Yes, before penalties that was standard way of deciding winners in drawn two legged ties. Celtic got through against Benfica in 1969 via that method.
Bees match ever decided on toss ?
 

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Because there isn't always a home club. Also, this rule has never changed for as long as I can remember.
IIRC it was updated slightly in 1997 and then again in 2019.

Between 97 and 19 it was loser of the toss took kick off. Now it's back to winner of the toss decides whether they get ball or end and then the loser gets the other choice. I.E winner decides they want ball so loser can choose what end etc.

Not sure why they ever changed it from that as it just makes sense as it is now.
 

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Yes, before penalties that was standard way of deciding winners in drawn two legged ties. Celtic got through against Benfica in 1969 via that method.
Chelsea lost to DWS Amsterdam on a coin toss in the Fairs Cup in 1968 I think. I was at the first leg at Stamford Bridge. 0-0 and Tambling missed a penalty. Only European game I have seen.
 
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