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I have a bit of an issue with the dynamic of how we recruit managers/coaches, I am not sure that DS wanted Frank in but rather he agreed to TF being hoisted on him, he already
had Kelly as his assistant, most managers want to bring in there own team but our management seem to want to control who comes in, and then what happens if the new coach
has a totally different approach to defending (lets face it something needs to change) will he be out voted?
 

Thomas Frank

I like a lot of others would love to know where this information that there’s players arriving late for tray.? Jersey Rd is a closed door to fans so an insider must be spilling the beans, if so both the players and the guy leaking the information MUST be disciplined.

Or is it just some fans trying to stir up trouble?
 

Thomas Frank

Is there a motivation problem with the players? It didn’t look like it yesterday, otherwise they’d have given up at 3 down, same against Preston. It seems to me like TF is doing more than tweaking the old system and the players are struggling to adapt, especially in defence.
 

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Delbee said:
I like a lot of others would love to know where this information that there’s players arriving late for tray.? Jersey Rd is a closed door to fans so an insider must be spilling the beans, if so both the players and the guy leaking the information MUST be disciplined.

Or is it just some fans trying to stir up trouble?
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I certainly believe the source even if I don’t always agree with his views.
 

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magicbees said:
Yes Yes and Yes, because this one isnt working. Our Goalkeeper coach has turned Bentley from a premiership player into a non league player. Our defensive coach hasn't done anything and our head coach has lost the dressing room and training ground. But hey ho lets do nothing.
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Do you know this for a FACT, or have you just made it all up and made a wild guess, when was the last time you were in the dressing room or on the training ground to verify your statement ??? I would like to know , Just asking like!!!!
 

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Delbee said:
I like a lot of others would love to know where this information that there’s players arriving late for tray.? Jersey Rd is a closed door to fans so an insider must be spilling the beans, if so both the players and the guy leaking the information MUST be disciplined.

Or is it just some fans trying to stir up trouble?
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Most of the time it’s a drip-feed of information followed by a hasty retreat when challenged.

I’m not saying it’s necessariily the case this time... but if often is in such cases.
 

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Delbee said:
I like a lot of others would love to know where this information that there’s players arriving late for tray.? Jersey Rd is a closed door to fans so an insider must be spilling the beans, if so both the players and the guy leaking the information MUST be disciplined.

Or is it just some fans trying to stir up trouble?
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Perhaps there is some truth in Larrys post. :fishing:
 

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North London Bee said:
Footballers are essentially selfish and look after themselves. Sod the team ethos if the team is going nowhere.

It’s now everyman for himself with most of the squad looking for life rafts and a more lucrative gig.

Brentford is only attractive to them as a showcase and stepping stone and for that to happen we have to keep playing well and attractively.

Write this season off. Stay up and rebuild in the summer when we will be as rich as Croesus.
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Make you right on your first point but given the fact that most of our signings are relatively unknown and see us a stepping stone i doubt the targets would change that much, if at all.
Any decent, well advised lower league player couldn't join a better club than us in terms of development/ pay rise / showcase etc etc.
Same for foreign players imho
 

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CTBee said:
You know this for a fact do you?

Because earlier in the season you kept telling us that Macleod had signed a new contract.
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That’s what I was told from someone who really was ITK but it didn’t happen.
 

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abeeforever said:
Do you know this for a FACT, or have you just made it all up and made a wild guess, when was the last time you were in the dressing room or on the training ground to verify your statement ??? I would like to know , Just asking like!!!!
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What do you think the answer to that is? lol lol
 

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North London Bee said:
That’s what I was told from someone who really was ITK but it didn’t happen.
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Fair enough everyone gets it wrong every now and then. I’m sure 4 or 5 of this squad is looking to move on in January. However most of the squad would be 10+. If that’s true we really are in trouble.
 

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Let's see if we get a new coach appointed this coming week. I expect it to happen.
 

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abeeforever said:
Do you know this for a FACT, or have you just made it all up and made a wild guess, when was the last time you were in the dressing room or on the training ground to verify your statement ??? I would like to know , Just asking like!!!!
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Read the other post from more itn people then me.
 

Thomas Frank

Some worrying comments about the players. They need to take responsibility as well. If there are trouble makers then who are they?
 

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Guildford Bee said:
Of the three you mentioned last night would Appleton or Carsley really want to work under TF?
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Why would I know that? Howevre as they are in the frame then one would expect so. You don't go for a job and then say at the end of the process "Ah tiny, small problem...."
 

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Banana said:
Why would I know that? Howevre as they are in the frame then one would expect so. You don't go for a job and then say at the end of the process "Ah tiny, small problem...."
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Exactly. And both have worked under managers/head coaches.
 

Thomas Frank

Delbee said:
I like a lot of others would love to know where this information that there’s players arriving late for tray.? Jersey Rd is a closed door to fans so an insider must be spilling the beans, if so both the players and the guy leaking the information MUST be disciplined.

Or is it just some fans trying to stir up trouble?
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Hand on heart - who's never been late for work?
 

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belvederebee said:
Hand on heart - who's never been late for work?
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When it comes to well paid sportsmen i dont buy it at all. They are there to train for a few hours and get very well paid to do so. Being late to a 9-10am training session (pulling times out of the air there) is inexcusable. Their job is one that many of us could only dream about. If its persistent lateness because they dont care then they need to jog on and find a new club.

I would like to think that being on such a bad run would motivate them to be in early to put it right on the training pitch.
 

Thomas Frank

Banana said:
Why would I know that? Howevre as they are in the frame then one would expect so. You don't go for a job and then say at the end of the process "Ah tiny, small problem...."
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Stop digging Nana.
You've said too much already & back tracking is doing you no favours ffs
 

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Isleworth_Bee said:
When it comes to well paid sportsmen i dont buy it at all. They are there to train for a few hours and get very well paid to do so. Being late to a 9-10am training session (pulling times out of the air there) is inexcusable. Their job is one that many of us could only dream about. If its persistent lateness because they dont care then they need to jog on and find a new club.

I would like to think that being on such a bad run would motivate them to be in early to put it right on the training pitch.
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Trouble with any forum is that rumours/fake news keeps the thread going. A couple of late arrivals = the whole team = all night binges = drug habits = secret cocaine lab at Jersey Road = whatever takes your fancy.
And that's from a reliable source.
 

Thomas Frank

I don't think there's an epidemic of bad behaviour here.
 

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belvederebee said:
Trouble with any forum is that rumours/fake news keeps the thread going. A couple of late arrivals = the whole team = all night binges = drug habits = secret cocaine lab at Jersey Road = whatever takes your fancy.
And that's from a reliable source.
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lol
 

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Re this talk about getting another coach (coaches?) in to support TF, I'm afraid I don't buy that.

Even with the departure of DS and his guys, there can't be that much of a shortage of technical knowledge at the club.

Seems to me that a major problem - maybe even the major problem - is a lack of leadership, both on and off the field.

I strongly suspect that with his personality and experience, DS supplied this in spades, maybe even making up for the shortage of leadership on the field ("everyone's a captain" etc).

So that with his departure, TF is struggling to reproduce that.

In which case, bringing in another coach(es) to work under him isn't going to address that key problem.

If anything, it could undermine him, if the players get the impression that he needs help.
 

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Ealing Bee said:
In which case, bringing in another coach(es) to work under him isn't going to address that key problem.

If anything, it could undermine him, if the players get the impression that he needs help.
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Unfortunately, the players now aren’t the only ones with that impression.
In the words of any politician “something must be done”. However we don’t have time to wait for a Royal Commission, so whatever happens next needs to be both swift and decisive. What form that takes - I have no idea - but it becomes more pressing by the week.
 

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WARFIELD BEE said:
I have a bit of an issue with the dynamic of how we recruit managers/coaches, I am not sure that DS wanted Frank in but rather he agreed to TF being hoisted on him, he already
had Kelly as his assistant, most managers want to bring in there own team but our management seem to want to control who comes in, and then what happens if the new coach
has a totally different approach to defending (lets face it something needs to change) will he be out voted?
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I think that is not the case. As DS said many times he had a massive say in all recruitment and I am sure TF will as well and that goes for coaching staff too.
 

Thomas Frank

Banana said:
Let's see if we get a new coach appointed this coming week. I expect it to happen.
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This may be answered later on already ,would you expect another coach to join the team , or some one come in as number one and Thomas revert back to number two ? Whats Brian doing ?He hasnt helped one bit !
 

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grutter said:
What I don't get is the inflexibility of the model which seems to make signing any experienced players a no no. We would still be in league one if we hadn't mixed youth with experience. We'd already got Douglas, fell just short in the play offs, so then went and bought McCormack (and Tony Craig as well)? That experience helped in the next season too. Time to scour league one for something similar, perhaps?
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Yep TC was the season before, the crucial one was AMc but all three were needed
 

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magicbees said:
We dont owe him any window, i wouldnt trust him anyway and how would the new players react to the current squad with him. He adds nothing, the players dont respect him or fear him otherwise they wouldnt be late for training and messing around. I cant see us winning any gamrs if he stays in charge.
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According to Rebus, the DOFs owe him a transfer window to get new bodies in and not rely of a quartet of sh*thouses that are only eyeing their next pay check elsewhere.

He has also suggested that what we need to do is not sell any players next month but break our own rules for a January transfer window and get some in ourselves.

We don't him a transfer window, unless there is some quiet deal that has been done between the DoFs and Franks. That is potentially another 8 games!

I agree we should be looking to strengthen the side, but quite why we should be looking to hang onto players for the sake of it is beyond me, whether they are budgeted for or not, particularly if all they are eyeing where their next pay cheque is coming from. If that is their attitude, they know where the door is. We don't want flakey tossers, we want fighters.
 
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JBN said:
According to Rebus, the DOFs owe him a transfer window to get new bodies in and not rely of a quartet of sh*thouses that are only eyeing their next pay check elsewhere.

He has also suggested that what we need to do is not sell any players next month but break our own rules for a January transfer window and get some in ourselves.

We don't him a transfer window, unless there is some quiet deal that has been done between the DoFs and Franks. That is potentially another 8 games!

I agree we should be looking to strengthen the side, but quite why we should be looking to hang onto players for the sake of it is beyond me, whether they are budgeted for or not, particularly if all they are eyeing where their next pay cheque is coming from. If that is their attitude, they know where the door is. We don't want flakey tossers, we want fighters.
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If the ‘quartet of sh*thouses’ are having such a detrimental effect I’m not sure why three of them are still playing almost every game...
 

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Waiting for senakot to kick. :sorted:

TF be fine in a day or so.
 

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wanderer paul said:
Waiting for senakot to kick. :sorted:

TF be fine in a day or so.
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We have had our run ins in the past but I think like you Thomas will get it sorted . I hope all this fuss being made about players turning up late for training is purely fans trying to stir up some sh1t
 

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TadB said:
Because without them we do not have enough fit or 90 minutes match fit players!
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Kerching! However, we shouldn’t have relied on this season with a smaller squad than last year. Hindsight is wonderful but it was high risk that didn’t pay off.
 

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rebus said:
Kerching! However, we shouldn’t have relied on this season with a smaller squad than last year. Hindsight is wonderful but it was high risk that didn’t pay off.
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It may not be popular to post but along with many other difficulties TF out of a squad of 24 he has only had some 13 players who are fit or 90 minutes fit during his tenure.
 

Thomas Frank

Delbee said:
We have had our run ins in the past but I think like you Thomas will get it sorted . I hope all this fuss being made about players turning up late for training is purely fans trying to stir up some sh1t
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Agreed. “Fans” might be the wrong word, though.
 

Thomas Frank

Unfortunate with injuries and the odd suspension. Magnifies the risks of competing in such a competitive league. Also the B team is a slow lane to the first team. The gap doesn't help us that much when we really need it.
 

Thomas Frank

I might bee missing something here....unlikely....but has TF given any interviews on the O/S.....since the Swansea game.....on the iFollow commentary it was said that he had a lot of explaining to do...for our display.....

You Reds....
 

Thomas Frank

Jockbee said:
I might bee missing something here....unlikely....but has TF given any interviews on the O/S.....since the Swansea game.....on the iFollow commentary it was said that he had a lot of explaining to do...for our display.....

You Reds....
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His weekly press conference is on a Thursday.
 

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rebus said:
Kerching! However, we shouldn’t have relied on this season with a smaller squad than last year. Hindsight is wonderful but it was high risk that didn’t pay off.
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Agreed. And that’s been exacerbated by an imbalance in the squad as well. They’ve not got much wrong but leaving us with a small squad lacking any particular central midfield steel, height, pace or maybe even goals, plus no genuine second striker was a distinct oversight.
 
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