Thomas Frank

[upnorthbee]

What exactly is our current 'style'? Do we have one? We seem to have completely lost our footballing identity which seemed so ingrained a couple of years back. We look afraid of the ball these days which is thoroughly depressing..

I think we're less concerned on playing style at the mo, more concerned about getting a result (I believe that's the thinking anyway). Results haven't been there the last few games but when we were winning... the playing style seemed less of a concern to everyone.

What makes me cringe about this thread is that people actually think that within our wage structure, our club status and history that there would be anyone better than Thomas to get us through this. I'd like to hear some names from the souls that are fed up with Thomas, some actual names as to who should replace him... at least we'd get some comedy in here. I'll start, Paul Lambert.

Sorry but Thomas leaves when Thomas wants in my opinion.

 

[JANORAK]

We were playing 4-3-3.

Josh DaSilva was not deployed at full-back or wing-back.

Didn’t really have long enough to assess. I did think 433 might be an idea as that’s what Howe always plays. If JDS wasn’t at RWB then a) what was he doing farting about at the back? b) who was the 3rd forward when Toney and Canos had been left on the bench? c) nobody appears to have told Henry either way!

 

[JANORAK]

I think we're less concerned on playing style at the mo, more concerned about getting a result (I believe that's the thinking anyway). Results haven't been there the last few games but when we were winning... the playing style seemed less of a concern to everyone.

What makes me cringe about this thread is that people actually think that within our wage structure, our club status and history that there would be anyone better than Thomas to get us through this. I'd like to hear some names from the souls that are fed up with Thomas, some actual names as to who should replace him... at least we'd get some comedy in here. I'll start, Paul Lambert.

Sorry but Thomas leaves when Thomas wants in my opinion.

Too late. All the ex-ManU dinosaurs are already back on the Merry-go-round.

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

TF is the right man for the job for me, surprised anyone would question it, we’re very lucky to have him.

Hi Thomas ???

 

[upnorthbee]

Hi Thomas ???

Haha! Fair shout, however I stand by my comment.

 

[sid]

Most supporters think TF is the man for the job which I am
one. My concern is, has he and his staff taken us as far as they
can.Everybody has a limit and once reached they can go no
further. It happens not just in football but in life. The hardest
thing is to accept it.

 

[Gee Bee]

Didn’t really have long enough to assess. I did think 433 might be an idea as that’s what Howe always plays. If JDS wasn’t at RWB then a) what was he doing farting about at the back? b) who was the 3rd forward when Toney and Canos had been left on the bench? c) nobody appears to have told Henry either way!

It looked more diamond 4 midfield to me although Wissa also deeper of a 2 led to 5. It was very unbalanced and allowed Fraser acres of space.

 

[I'll Bee Damned]

What exactly is our current 'style'? Do we have one? We seem to have completely lost our footballing identity which seemed so ingrained a couple of years back. We look afraid of the ball these days which is thoroughly depressing..

I agree and it’s contributing to making this a season I want to see the back of now. It’s making me rather ambivalent to whichever way it turns out as there are pros and cons to both outcomes.

I do think we’ve rather talked ourselves into being poor and the early season rhetoric of “we deserve to be here and will take the season by the scruff of the neck” has evaporated

I get that our resources are the lowest in the division do not expecting miracles, but we have lost the edge we used to have and seem to be continuing with failing approaches such as long throws and hoofing the ball forward. We are very predictable and easy to play against. It may have been different yesterday had JDS stayed long enough to find out but he didn’t.

The players who once looked good on the ball, such as Janelt, look like shadows of themselves and even simple ball control and passing seems to have deserted us.

 

[Guildford Bee]

When is Thomas , Brian and the so called tactical guy going to sort out the set up defence for defending our corners . Yes the last few weeks we’ve not let in goals from corners

Er, so they sorted it out a few weeks ago then.

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

Linton got the run on him and Ajer got caught in a poor position, he didn't have his best afternoon by his standards.

Still should have tried harder to block him IMO.

 

[ruislip bee]

The current formation seems to be kick the ball as hard and high as we can and everyone chase it.

Used to work OK for my under 11's school team......

 

[rebus]

Sorry mate but Ajer was bought as a centre half not RB or RWB, as clearly seen today with three center backs , later in the game Ajer subbed with Canos Taking the RB position hence then 4 at the back !

We played 4-3-3. Ajer was subbed because we were 2-0 down and chasing the game. Seriously, stop digging.

 

[BFC1997]

Sorry mate but Ajer was bought as a centre half not RB or RWB, as clearly seen today with three center backs , later in the game Ajer subbed with Canos Taking the RB position hence then 4 at the back !

I know that Ajer was bought as a centre back. But in this game vs Newcastle he was deployed as a RB in a 4-3-3.

I really don’t understand why people are finding this so difficult.

 

[AB]

I know that Ajer was bought as a centre back. But in this game vs Newcastle he was deployed as a RB in a 4-3-3.

I really don’t understand why people are finding this so difficult.

The weird thing is several people on here have been clamouring for a move away from 352/532 to 433 because we’re too defensive, arguing that Roerslev and Canos aren’t good enough to be RWBs in a 352 and we should play Ajer at RB. Then, when TF actually does that tactical switch everyone starts screaming how after JDS got sent off ten minutes in he ought to have gone to 531 without a centre forward and with Canos the way to tighten us up at RWB.

The result yesterday was very disappointing but I think it was right to not just give up on 433 if that is where we are likely to end up during the run in to maximise our use of CE and IT (and JDS) and be sufficiently attacking to be able to go for wins rather than just keeping the score down and hope to convert a higher proportion of limited counterattacking chances.

In retrospect maybe starting with Sergi as RW yesterday would have been a purer and more positive way of doing 433 and having someone there who had shown he could work well combining with Ajer defensively. JDS then would have been a natural to play instead of Jensen. But given where JDS was when he got sent off we might well have had precisely the same outcome on 11 minutes (though the switch to 5 at the back would have been easier I don’t think TF can be criticised for not setting up on the basis of the risk of JdS getting a red card!).

 

[Hippobee]

The weird thing is several people on here have been clamouring for a move away from 352/532 to 433 because we’re too defensive, arguing that Roerslev and Canos aren’t good enough to be RWBs in a 352 and we should play Ajer at RB. Then, when TF actually does that tactical switch everyone starts screaming how after JDS got sent off ten minutes in he ought to have gone to 531 without a centre forward and with Canos the way to tighten us up at RWB.

The result yesterday was very disappointing but I think it was right to not just give up on 433 if that is where we are likely to end up during the run in to maximise our use of CE and IT (and JDS) and be sufficiently attacking to be able to go for wins rather than just keeping the score down and hope to convert a higher proportion of limited counterattacking chances.

In retrospect maybe starting with Sergi as RW yesterday would have been a purer and more positive way of doing 433 and having someone there who had shown he could work well combining with Ajer defensively. JDS then would have been a natural to play instead of Jensen. But given where JDS was when he got sent off we might well have had precisely the same outcome on 11 minutes (though the switch to 5 at the back would have been easier I don’t think TF can be criticised for not setting up on the basis of the risk of JdS getting a red card!).

433 was the right call. We've basically been playing 532 with no success at all for months. Fine against far superior sides to keep the score down, but we had to show more attacking intent against the sides below us, starting yesterday. Of course, the sending off ruined the 433 plan and put extra pressure on Ajer. Thomas should have changed the formation immediately that happened, but we would still have struggled.

I hope he sticks with 433 next week against Norwich and plays to win, rather than not to lose. I don't imagine he's going to ditch it after one game. Give our front men some ball to work with and we may see some better performances and results.

 

[cromerbee]

Why didn't Ajer jump against Joelinton he never got off the ground.

He almost crouched to be honest!

 

[AB]

433 was the right call. We've basically been playing 532 with no success at all for months. Fine against far superior sides to keep the score down, but we had to show more attacking intent against the sides below us, starting yesterday. Of course, the sending off ruined the 433 plan and put extra pressure on Ajer. Thomas should have changed the formation immediately that happened, but we would still have struggled.

I hope he sticks with 433 next week against Norwich and plays to win, rather than not to lose. I don't imagine he's going to ditch it after one game. Give our front men some ball to work with and we may see some better performances and results.

My hope is that having had 80 minutes of playing in the new formation with 10 we’ll be able to execute it better next week than if we’d reverted to 3CBs yesterday and if we start again with Ajer at RB he’ll have learned a lot from the experience. I think we actually played much better than most on here are crediting us with.

 

[LingfieldBee]

Probably could have gone 3-5-1 after the red card.

Raya
Ajer Pontus Pinnock

Roeslerv/Canos Norgaard Janelt Jensen Henry

BM/Toney

 

[Delbee]

Er, so they sorted it out a few weeks ago then.

Well it did not work yesterday , 2nd goal Rico Henry out muscled and no covering Brentford player

 

[magicbees]

Yes he has made mistakes but he is learning in this division like the players. The blame for me is at a higher level. The recruitment team this season has really let us down maybe we need to bring somebody else in to support Mr Giles. We are not down yet but please play a different formation as this one doesn't work.

 

[TorbayBee]

Most supporters think TF is the man for the job which I am
one. My concern is, has he and his staff taken us as far as they
can.Everybody has a limit and once reached they can go no
further. It happens not just in football but in life. The hardest
thing is to accept it.

No he is the man for the job.
Anyone who thinks he is going does not understand the project.
There is more chance of me getting the sack and I work for myself.

 

[Guildford Bee]

I will admit that the failure to sign a right back is now looking borderline indefensible.

And just missing out on a Vanderson and there supposedly being no one else just doesn’t cut it as an excuse, IMO.

 

[Untouchable]

The recruitment team this season has really let us down

Please can you explain what we could have done differently with our recruitment.

You must be ITK to say that recruitment ‘has really let us down’ and I therefore assume that you are privy to the finer details of what did and didn’t happen in the 2 transfer windows this season.

I am looking forward to your informed input.

 

[Hippobee]

I will admit that the failure to sign a right back is now looking borderline indefensible.

And just missing out on a Vanderson and there supposedly being no one else just doesn’t cut it as an excuse, IMO.

You're not saying anything new that wasn't being said by many at the start of the season. How's it taken you this long? It's just the amount saying it has increased in number with each week. The promotion 'bounce' covered things up for a couple of months, but Canos was never the answer.

Never understood letting Henrik go, with only a shaky looking Thompson and a largely untried Roerslev in that position. In the past 8 years, Brentford have largely had their replacement players already in the squad to step up to the first team, when an existing player exits. Not this time - and entering the most testing league in the world.

We can probably excuse January, as I suspect figures banded about for what we needed were just not realistic. The damage was done last summer.

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

Most supporters think TF is the man for the job which I am
one. My concern is, has he and his staff taken us as far as they
can.Everybody has a limit and once reached they can go no
further. It happens not just in football but in life. The hardest
thing is to accept it.

We have half the wage budget of the team with the second lowest wage budget in the division and even then, I think it would be fair to say that our recruitment has fallen a little short of what we hoped this year. Exactly how much added value do you believe Thomas or anyone else should be able to squeeze out of a small squad, impacted by injuries and lacking a genuine RWB ?

 

[AB]

Yes he has made mistakes but he is learning in this division like the players. The blame for me is at a higher level. The recruitment team this season has really let us down maybe we need to bring somebody else in to support Mr Giles. We are not down yet but please play a different formation as this one doesn't work.

Which formation doesn’t work? The 352 we were playing or the 433 we played yesterday which was hampered by going down to ten men after 11 minutes? Maybe go balls out with a WM 235 that doesn’t require any full backs at all?

Buying players who’ll improve us, who want to join and who we can afford the transfer fees and wages of is hard. An obvious FB who can make an immediate impact at PL level is probably £25m and £70k+ a week so the job is to find one who is available and a lot less than that. The only ones to have moved last window in the PL are Targett and Chambers and I doubt we could have competed with either Newcastle or Villa on wages for them.

Spence at Forest is unproven at this level and has something of a question mark over him on the basis of Boro wanting him out despite having promotion ambitions and loaning him to a competitor. Bowler at Blackpool was mooted but would he slot straight in? Would either have been good enough had we got them last summer?

 

[HaylingBee74]

I will admit that the failure to sign a right back is now looking borderline indefensible.

And just missing out on a Vanderson and there supposedly being no one else just doesn’t cut it as an excuse, IMO.

We are missing out on 3, a RWB and a back up and a back up for Rico. And we couldn’t find any in 2 windows.

 

[grepo]

The fact we had to “ save” two slots for them players would Imply we had a very in adaptable game plan I don’t think we should go into a game like that

those

 

[HerefordB]

thank feck for that because otherwise we'd be Watford and in the relegation places.

It won't be long. Maybe in a fortnight....sadly. All the early season flair has gone and TF, tactically, is running on fumes.

 

[Guildford Bee]

Which formation doesn’t work? The 352 we were playing or the 433 we played yesterday which was hampered by going down to ten men after 11 minutes? Maybe go balls out with a WM 235 that doesn’t require any full backs at all?

Buying players who’ll improve us, who want to join and who we can afford the transfer fees and wages of is hard. An obvious FB who can make an immediate impact at PL level is probably £25m and £70k+ a week so the job is to find one who is available and a lot less than that. The only ones to have moved last window in the PL are Targett and Chambers and I doubt we could have competed with either Newcastle or Villa on wages for them.

Spence at Forest is unproven at this level and has something of a question mark over him on the basis of Boro wanting him out despite having promotion ambitions and loaning him to a competitor. Bowler at Blackpool was mooted but would he slot straight in? Would either have been good enough had we got them last summer?

Sorry but the notion we couldn’t have found a RB better than the two current options, neither of whom are a patch on Dalsgaard, is laughable.

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

No he is the man for the job.
Anyone who thinks he is going does not understand the project.
There is more chance of me getting the sack and I work for myself.

If the project is to lose virtually every game and take us back down I’d assume he’s getting a good wage rise in June if that actually happens?? ? these posts do my head in….at what stage do we say the project is now NOT working….before or after we go down ?? He’s just our current manager…there’s plenty of others around who’d like the opportunity to keep this fantastic club in the premier for at least another season….if he starts with Jensen Saturday and if we lose I think things will have to change before it’s too damn late ? there I said it ?

 

[Will Bee]

Plenty of comments on style of play, hoofing it, players looking poor in possession (e.g. mention of Janelt above)... Isn't that partly confidence? We've lost a lot of games, stopped scoring goals and played a load of possession-heavy teams (Man City twice, Arsenal, Wolves etc.) and so our players' confidence is rock-bottom when they actually get the ball. We desperately need a lucky win (a bit like the Everton win at home) with a deflected goal or penalty to get confidence moving in the right direction.

Bringing this back to Thomas Frank I would keep him regardless, I still think we're a well-coached side where the players know their jobs but we're up against teams with better players pretty much every week (seeing Christian Eriksen's level when he came on rather showed the gulf in class - I thought his touch and vision in just 30 minutes was better than anything we've ever really seen at Brentford).

 

[AB]

Sorry but the notion we couldn’t have found a RB better than the two current options, neither of whom are a patch on Dalsgaard, is laughable.

Who do you see out there that we didn’t try for and could have afforded who would have been a longer term improvement? I think we tried and just couldn’t get the deal done for a suitable player. Chucking £15m+ on someone only marginally better isn’t our way and couldn’t be sustained, particularly if it didn’t have the effect of making the difference between 18th and 17th.

 

[HaylingBee74]

Who do you see out there that we didn’t try for and could have afforded who would have been a longer term improvement? I think we tried and just couldn’t get the deal done for a suitable player. Chucking £15m+ on someone only marginally better isn’t our way and couldn’t be sustained, particularly if it didn’t have the effect of making the difference between 18th and 17th.

Aaron Hickey

 

[AB]

Aaron Hickey

Rumoured on here. Sounds a great prospect. Didn’t Bologna want £25m? Also, a LB so would have depended on us playing Rico at RB.

 

[HaylingBee74]

Rumoured on here. Sounds a great prospect. Didn’t Bologna want £25m? Also, a LB so would have depended on us playing Rico at RB.

I think he plays both sides

Aaron Hickey - Stats 25/26

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[TorbayBee]

If the project is to lose virtually every game and take us back down I’d assume he’s getting a good wage rise in June if that actually happens?? ? these posts do my head in….at what stage do we say the project is now NOT working….before or after we go down ?? He’s just our current manager…there’s plenty of others around who’d like the opportunity to keep this fantastic club in the premier for at least another season….if he starts with Jensen Saturday and if we lose I think things will have to change before it’s too damn late ? there I said it ?

I am simply echoing the words of Phil Giles at the start of the season who said that the BGC leadership team accept that it may take more than one attempt to be established as a sound Premiership club. That’s the project as I understand it. I fully share your anger and frustration but after 24 hours I accept that the team in charge has been more right than wrong. It’s a relegation fight for sure but imagine if we stay up it will be amazing

 

[Thomas Bathurst]

Who do you see out there that we didn’t try for and could have afforded who would have been a longer term improvement? I think we tried and just couldn’t get the deal done for a suitable player. Chucking £15m+ on someone only marginally better isn’t our way and couldn’t be sustained, particularly if it didn’t have the effect of making the difference between 18th and 17th.

Really? Our two options at Right Back are a rookie who may or may not end up being good enough at PL and Sergi. Are you seriously telling me that there were no other options out there. Who says it has to be a long term solution, anyway? We've had a gaping wound down our right for the whole season and teams clearly target this weakness and most definitely has been our downfall on more than one occasion.

I like reading your contributions, but you also seem to just like arguing to the contrary sometimes. You aren't a lawyer by any chance are you

We all know we did brilliantly and punched above our weight during the first half of the season. What is most frustrating is that we didn't capitalise on this start. If we end up getting relegated then sorry, it will be nothing short of a disaster given the position we managed to get ourselves into.

I think what has done for us lately is;

- Completely underestimating the physical requirements of the Premier League, without strength in depth to cope with those rigours and the inevitable injuries across the board.
- As brilliant as our recruitment has been at Championship level, we've been left seriously wanting with regard the Premier League. 2 relatively poor keepers, Wissa and Frank have underwhelmed with only Ajer the real positive. Obviously "circumstance" has led us to recruit Eriksen which will hopefully paper over the cracks and get us over the line.
- But more than anything, completely neglecting the RB/RWB position. I just can't for the life of me understand how we let this happen.

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

I am simply echoing the words of Phil Giles at the start of the season who said that the BGC leadership team accept that it may take more than one attempt to be established as a sound Premiership club. That’s the project as I understand it. I fully share your anger and frustration but after 24 hours I accept that the team in charge has been more right than wrong. It’s a relegation fight for sure but imagine if we stay up it will be amazing

It will be amazing and we can only hope that happens…but it’s only hope at the moment…before dec it was looking so good but the last few months have been a grind…especially away games where we just seem to be making up the numbers? even BCS feels a bit grim at the moment ….I just wish we’d strengthened in Jan and this might come back to bite us on the Arsenal ! TF has got a tough job to keep us up now and I hope he’s ready for the fight?

 

[AB]

Really? Our two options at Right Back are a rookie who may or may not end up being good enough at PL and Sergi. Are you seriously telling me that there were no other options out there. Who says it has to be a long term solution, anyway? We've had a gaping wound down our right for the whole season and teams clearly target this weakness and most definitely has been our downfall on more than one occasion.

I like reading your contributions, but you also seem to just like arguing to the contrary sometimes. You aren't a lawyer by any chance are you

We all know we did brilliantly and punched above our weight during the first half of the season. What is most frustrating is that we didn't capitalise on this start. If we end up getting relegated then sorry, it will be nothing short of a disaster given the position we managed to get ourselves into.

I think what has done for us lately is;

- Completely underestimating the physical requirements of the Premier League, without strength in depth to cope with those rigours and the inevitable injuries across the board.
- As brilliant as our recruitment has been at Championship level, we've been left seriously wanting with regard the Premier League. 2 relatively poor keepers, Wissa and Frank have underwhelmed with only Ajer the real positive. Obviously "circumstance" has led us to recruit Eriksen which will hopefully paper over the cracks and get us over the line.
- But more than anything, completely neglecting the RB/RWB position. I just can't for the life of me understand how we let this happen.

Of course there are better RBs around but maybe not ones who we could afford and who wanted to come to us. Of the future prospects, maybe the club took the view they were less likely to get up to speed during this season than Roerslev and Canos. I don’t think we’ve ignored the issue, just decided that balancing affordability and immediacy of impact there hasn’t been anyone available. Perhaps the club ought to have been readier to spend more or accept a young player having a lot of on the job learning early season but Sergi and Mads weren’t a problem then, indeed both have played positive roles. Would it have been better to have not used them and developed a new player so that now we’d have a top RB? Is Roerslev really never going to make the grade? I think these must all have been considered by the club and a decision made that there has not so far been a better option available.

I suspect if we stay up our budget next season will be a lot higher and we’ll bring in some £20m+ players in wide areas.

 

[Thomas Bathurst]

Of course there are better RBs around but maybe not ones who we could afford and who wanted to come to us. Of the future prospects, maybe the club took the view they were less likely to get up to speed during this season than Roerslev and Canos. I don’t think we’ve ignored the issue, just decided that balancing affordability and immediacy of impact there hasn’t been anyone available. Perhaps the club ought to have been readier to spend more or accept a young player having a lot of on the job learning early season but Sergi and Mads weren’t a problem then, indeed both have played positive roles. Would it have been better to have not used them and developed a new player so that now we’d have a top RB? Is Roerslev really never going to make the grade? I think these must all have been considered by the club and a decision made that there has not so far been a better option available.

I suspect if we stay up our budget next season will be a lot higher and we’ll bring in some £20m+ players in wide areas.

Everything easy with hindsight and from the outside of course, but I'd argue Sergi has always been a problem at RWB at this level. Mads might make the grade I agree, but he really should be playing 2nd fiddle to a.n.other and gaining experience here and there. I am just thoroughly surprised we didn't have a 2nd,3rd,4th,5th option after Vanderson for example (or even a last resort i.e. loanee option). Both of our options are currently massive downgrades on Dalsgaard and yet the level we are playing at so much higher. It's very un-Brentford-like.

 

[RAF_Patto]

If he didnt pick a right footed attacking midfielder to play at left wing back against Arsenal first game of the season, we wouldnt have got the first goal

Didn't know Rico was right footed? ?

 

[AB]

Everything easy with hindsight and from the outside of course, but I'd argue Sergi has always been a problem at RWB at this level. Mads might make the grade I agree, but he really should be playing 2nd fiddle to a.other and gaining experience here and there. I am just thoroughly surprised we didn't have a 2nd,3rd,4th,5th option after Vanderson for example (or even a last resort i.e. loanee option). Both our options are currently massive downgrades on Dalsgaard and yet the level we are playing at so much higher. It's very un-Brentford-like.

I think the fact the club (was it Phil or TF) commented in detail about how they wanted to reverse the decision to let Henrik go is quite telling. It sounded, given when the comments were made while we were still going well and the fact that Henrik and the club had that conversation after the paperwork with FCM was well advanced that maybe they’d already in preseason thought to reconsider. So perhaps while they were initially confident about Canos/Roerslev they didn’t do enough even before the season to vindicate that confidence. In that context they may have been doing more to find another RB option in addition to Vanderson who was never a done deal but nothing came off. One for the next gpg interview post-season.

 

[HaylingBee74]

I think the fact the club (was it Phil or TF) commented in detail about how they wanted to reverse the decision to let Henrik go is quite telling. It sounded, given when the comments were made while we were still going well and the fact that Henrik and the club had that conversation after the paperwork with FCM was well advanced that maybe they’d already in preseason thought to reconsider. So perhaps while they were initially confident about Canos/Roerslev they didn’t do enough even before the season to vindicate that confidence. In that context they may have been doing more to find another RB option in addition to Vanderson who was never a done deal but nothing came off. One for the next gpg interview post-season.

Vanderson was introduced very slowly at Monaco, I think last weekend was his first full game.

 

[AB]

Vanderson was introduced very slowly at Monaco, I think last weekend was his first full game.

And Mykolenko who’s had 32 appearances in the Champions League and Europa League plus 21 international caps after being bought for £17m has barely played for Everton. Slotting straight in is not easy for players right at the top end of our budget and beyond.

 

[Mr Cynical]

I think we're less concerned on playing style at the mo, more concerned about getting a result (I believe that's the thinking anyway). Results haven't been there the last few games but when we were winning... the playing style seemed less of a concern to everyone.

What makes me cringe about this thread is that people actually think that within our wage structure, our club status and history that there would be anyone better than Thomas to get us through this. I'd like to hear some names from the souls that are fed up with Thomas, some actual names as to who should replace him... at least we'd get some comedy in here. I'll start, Paul Lambert.

Sorry but Thomas leaves when Thomas wants in my opinion.

I think it's massively important. Our recent success has been based on having a distinct and settled style that all the players buy into and play in across the club. Players can drop into the system because they're so well versed in it in training and in the B team. Everyone knows their role and how we were expected to play. We now have a bit of a mish-mash where we're quite direct but sometimes want to try and play out from the back and sometimes try and get it down and play and have players playing in unfamiliar positions and unfamiliar roles. It doesn't particularly matter if we decide to play long ball (though I'd rather we didn't) or go back to trying to play quick, passing, attacking football but we need to pick one and stick to it. Chopping and changing from game to game isn't helping and on Sat at times the players looked quite lost.

 

[Bill Benn]

If the project is to lose virtually every game and take us back down I’d assume he’s getting a good wage rise in June if that actually happens?? ? these posts do my head in….at what stage do we say the project is now NOT working….before or after we go down ?? He’s just our current manager…there’s plenty of others around who’d like the opportunity to keep this fantastic club in the premier for at least another season….if he starts with Jensen Saturday and if we lose I think things will have to change before it’s too damn late ? there I said it ?

If we go down I think there is more chance of Thomas deciding to walk other than the sack.Who are these “others“can you give me a clue? Last time I asked a fan that at HT v Millwall he said Kenny Jacket ??.I don’t think you understand how this club works if you really think his jobs on the line.My opinion is we are not quite good enough for this league but if we do go down and it’s still very much an if I’m hoping we regroup and come back up stronger like Burnley did.

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

If we go down I think there is more chance of Thomas deciding to walk other than the sack.Who are these “others“can you give me a clue? Last time I asked a fan that at HT v Millwall he said Kenny Jacket ??.I don’t think you understand how this club works if you really think his jobs on the line.My opinion is we are not quite good enough for this league but if we do go down and it’s still very much an if I’m hoping we regroup and come back up stronger like Burnley did.

Well agree to disagree then ? IF we go down we need a fresh start management wise and your prob right in that he’d prob walk anyway and take up a fresh challenge elsewhere himself ——let’s just hope we stay up instead?

 

[Bill Benn]

Well agree to disagree then ? IF we go down we need a fresh start management wise and your prob right in that he’d prob walk anyway and take up a fresh challenge elsewhere himself ——let’s just hope we stay up instead?

Let’s hope so,some fans think we should have spent big pre season maybe we should but still don’t guarantee anything. I’d rather go down rich than skint

 

[aslan]

Sorry mate but Ajer was bought as a centre half not RB or RWB, as clearly seen today with three center backs , later in the game Ajer subbed with Canos Taking the RB position hence then 4 at the back !

So you're adament JDS started at RB, and not Ajer, because Ajer was not purchased as a RB? And you think that is a cohesive argument?