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Who would you like (or not) in our division next year and why?

Championship relegation:
Palace (nice London derby)
Sheff Utd (another bigg(ish) club/ memories of the 'Dougie Allder' game in the 70s)
S****horpe ( my brother-in-law supports them)

League One promotion
Brighton (up already (shame would've been nice to go to their new ground))
Huddersfield ( never really liked 'em/northern trip got rid of/means we get to beat Sothampton again next year!)
Peterborough ( nothing against them really, but they don't really offer us much)

League One relegation
Notts County ( sorry MA)
Walsall (offer nothing)
Dag & Red (non-league)
Tranmere (means the West Country teams remain; good for me!!)

League 2 Promotion
Chesterfield (virtually up/always enjoyed the 'crooked spire'!!)
Wycombe (localish)
Torquay (localish to me/never been there)
Gillingham (good to resume the pikey rivalry)
 

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D&R aren't non league:scratch:
 

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I'd like to see Palace, Sheff Utd and any other to come down

I'd like to see Saints and Peterboro join Brighton to get rid of a few big spenders

I'd like to see Daggers stay up, Notts County go down and not too fussed about the others

I'd like to see Wycombe and Bury go up and Torquay in the play offs...these 3 will hopefully struggle next season
 

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DOWN:

palace

Sheff U

doncaster

L1 UP:

Brighton

Huddersfield

Peterboro

L1 DOWN:

Plymouth

Notts Co

Walsall

BR

L2 Up:

Chesterfield

Gillingham

Wycombe

Bury.
 

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Id like to see D & R stay up. Good setup, manager and are quite likeable (as likeable as an east end team can be). Oh, and they should stay below us forever!
 

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hypa123 said:
Not Rotherham?
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Have you ordered you Millers shirt online, I'm sure even those South Yorkshire monkeys can send it to gay Paree ?
 

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Down: Preston, Sheffield United and Palace.

Up: Brighton, Southampton (just for the £25k for Dickson!) and Huddersfield.

Down: Walsall, Plymouth, Notts Co and Swindon.

Up: Chesterfield, Wycombe, Bury and Torquay.
 

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Championship Relegation:

20 Doncaster 42 -23 45
21 Crystal Palace 42 -23 43
22 S****horpe 42 -39 40
23 Preston 42 -21 39
24 Sheff Utd 42 -33 35

Sheffield United - They look doomed
Preston North End - Mate lives there. Weekender potential
Crystal Palace - Not been to S****horpe or Palace but Palace would be easier to get to

League One Promotion:

2 Southampton 41 38 77
3 Huddersfield 42 25 77
4 Peterborough 42 27 74
5 MK Dons 42 8 71
6 Bournemouth 42 21 66
7 Rochdale 42 10 64

Southampton (automatic): We spoil their possible party but by beating Huddersfield we get them promotion
Huddersfield (play-offs): Between them and Peterborough. Think Peterborough would be "easier" next year

League One Relegation:

19 Dag & Red 42 -14 44
20 Walsall 42 -19 43
21 Bristol R 42 -32 43
22 Notts County 41 -15 42
23 Swindon 42 -19 38
24 Plymouth 41 -19 36

Plymouth: They look doomed, sadly. Would probably have stayed up if they hadn't gone into admin.
Swindon: Also doomed. Oh well, never mind rofl
Notts County: Cheated their way up last season.
Walsall: Keep Dagenham (local). Wouldn't care if Rovers went instead.

League Two Promotion:
2 Bury 42 32 74
3 Wycombe 42 13 70
4 Shrewsbury 42 17 69
5 Torquay 42 23 65
6 Stevenage 42 19 65
7 Gillingham 42 15 65
8 Accrington 42 13 65
9 Port Vale 42 3 62
10 Rotherham 42 14 61

Bury: They look as if they're up.
Shrewsbury: We can pass Shrewsbury off the pitch at New Meadow again.
Torquay: Never been. Would like to see Rotherham promoted but a trip to the Don Valley doesn't appeal.
 

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Could be a hell of a division next season with Palace, the two Sheffield teams, Charlton and maybe even Soton to compete with
 

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horshambees said:
82/83 Football League Trophy drew 2-2.Played Wimbledon as well away won 3-1 same competition.
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Football League Trophy began in 83/84?

All head-to-head websites say that we last played them in 1977.
 

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Ambrose_1889 said:
Football League Trophy began in 83/84?

All head-to-head websites say that we last played them in 1977.
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We've played them in Friendlies and the like, but not a first team match. I want me revenge and been waiting for 34 years. Palace down please LOL
 

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Infatuated Bees Alter Ego said:
Last competitive 1st team game with Palace was over 2 legs in the League Cup and 1977. We lost 5-1 there and think we won 2-1 at our place.
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Yes i went to both of those games,lost in extra time.Also 14/08/82 in what was The Football League Trophy game at GP which was not a pre season friendly.Anyone else see this game?
 

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horshambees said:
Yes i went to both of those games,lost in extra time.Also 14/08/82 in what was The Football League Trophy game at GP which was not a pre season friendly.Anyone else see this game?
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:yes: classed as a competitive match too :sorted:
 

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I just want the best chance for us to compete next season. I want Huddersfield and Southampton to go up otherwise they will just get stronger with the money they have. Peterborough will be a worse side next season without CMS and Boyd. I'm resigned to Sheffield United coming down but i don't want them to. I'm hoping S****horpe's revival doesn't continue as I don't want to have two difficult derby games against Palace. I want Dagenham to stay up over Notts County.
 

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red_and_white said:
I just want the best chance for us to compete next season. I want Huddersfield and Southampton to go up otherwise they will just get stronger with the money they have. Peterborough will be a worse side next season without CMS and Boyd. I'm resigned to Sheffield United coming down but i don't want them to. I'm hoping S****horpe's revival doesn't continue as I don't want to have two difficult derby games against Palace. I want Dagenham to stay up over Notts County.
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You'd rather have a game at distant S****horpe than two derbies against Palace?
 

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I think it's the assumption that Palace have a stronger infrastructure to be competitive in this league next season than S****horpe.
 

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Down: Palace, Sheffield United, Preston

Up: Brighton, Southampton, Huddersfield

Down: Plymouth, Swindon, Notts County, Warsaw

Up: Chesterfield, Wycombe, Bury, Torquay
 

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Down: Sheffield United (I think everyone wants this, new ground (for me) and a good away day i'd imagine), Preston (uni mate lives there) and Palace (be nice for a new London Derby)

Up: Southampton and Peterborugh (solely as I think they will be the most likely to be up there again next season if they don't go up now).

Down: Notts County (Don't feel they deserve to be here anyway, plus there fans and Lee Hughes are dicks), Swindon (so bored of playing Swindon!), Bristol Rovers (We don't have a great record against them) and Plymouth (only because its inevitable IMO).

Up: Chesterfield (as its as good as done), Wycombe ( I enjoyed our games with them in the past few season), Bury ( I think they deserve it), Torquay (just for a potential summer weekend!)
 

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Huddersfield will be more dangerous than Peterborough next season if one stays down.
 

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Ambrose_1889 said:
Huddersfield will be more dangerous than Peterborough next season if one stays down.
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My gut instict is Huddersfield are more likely to lose players if they don't go up. I could see Rhodes, Smithies leaving for a start.
 

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Holysmit said:
My gut instict is Huddersfield are more likely to lose players if they don't go up. I could see Rhodes, Smithies leaving for a start.
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Couldn't Peterborough possibly lose Boyd, Mackail-Smith & Lewis, if they fail to get promoted?
 

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Probably would lose Mackail Smith, not sure about Boyd. I think they could find a replacement who would be as good if not better then Lewis, where as I don't think Huddersfield will find a keeper as good as Smithies.
 

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Holysmit said:
My gut instict is Huddersfield are more likely to lose players if they don't go up. I could see Rhodes, Smithies leaving for a start.
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I reckon Rhodes will leave for definate in the summer, regardless of whether or not they go up. Seems as if he is not too highly rated up there! We'll have him back!
 

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Down: Sheff Utd,Preston,Palace

Up: Brighton,Southampton,Huddersfield

Down: Plymouth,Swindon,Notts County,Walsall

Up: Chesterfield,Bury,Wycombe,Gillingham
 

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Down

Sheff Utd, Palace (two new clubs for me) Preston as Tango Man would love his "reception"

Up B&H, Saints & Posh

Down The current bottom four please

Up Chesterfield Bury Shrewsbury
 

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Markybee said:
You'd rather have a game at distant S****horpe than two derbies against Palace?
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Ambrose_1889 said:
I think it's the assumption that Palace have a stronger infrastructure to be competitive in this league next season than S****horpe.
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Yes. I understand it sounds a little strange but we've had big games against big local clubs such as Charlton, Southampton, etc and whilst the day out is fun i would far rather teams with a lower potential to be relegated from the Championship.

Another side issue that I have is the competition we have to sign good London based League One players or players who are willing to move to London. Charlton trumped us on a few signings last season for example. But that's a minor issue which is debatable.

Individually, saying I don't want to Palace to go down over S****horpe is a flimsy argument but when you think that you could have a league where the likes of Huddersfield, Southampton, Charlton, Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday and Crystal Palace are competing against us for playoffs then the argument becomes stronger.
 

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red_and_white said:
Yes. I understand it sounds a little strange but we've had big games against big local clubs such as Charlton, Southampton, etc and whilst the day out is fun i would far rather teams with a lower potential to be relegated from the Championship.

Another side issue that I have is the competition we have to sign good London based League One players or players who are willing to move to London. Charlton trumped us on a few signings last season for example. But that's a minor issue which is debatable.

Individually, saying I don't want to Palace to go down over S****horpe is a flimsy argument but when you think that you could have a league where the likes of Huddersfield, Southampton, Charlton, Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday and Crystal Palace are competing against us for playoffs then the argument becomes stronger.
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I totally agree with what you say, but If we want to be a Championship side we have to get used competition like both Sheffields, Southamptons and the likes of Palace. Bring them on!!
 

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I think relegation from Champ'ship is pretty well sorted - though wouldn't mind Palace coming down instead of Sc'thorpe or Preston.

In terms of departures from Lge 1, I hope as many Southern teams stay in as possible (to have a few accessible away games) - so Huddersfield and Rochdale to join Brighton (I think Southampton and Huddersfield/Peterborough is more likely). At the other end, I'd like Walsall to replace Bristol in the bottom 4. From Lge 2, Stevenage and Wycombe to join Chesterfield, and probably Bury
 

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Brain-dead Bee said:
I think relegation from Champ'ship is pretty well sorted - though wouldn't mind Palace coming down instead of Sc'thorpe or Preston.

In terms of departures from Lge 1, I hope as many Southern teams stay in as possible (to have a few accessible away games) - so Huddersfield and Rochdale to join Brighton (I think Southampton and Huddersfield/Peterborough is more likely). At the other end, I'd like Walsall to replace Bristol in the bottom 4. From Lge 2, Stevenage and Wycombe to join Chesterfield, and probably Bury
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Agree with all of that. The more 'easy' games to get to the better, and Palace is the only London club ground I've not been to. However, unfortunately, I think Rochdale will bee playing us next season.
 

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i hope dagenham stay in our division as we really are due a massive day out with 5000 brentford and a vital win there and i think it will be next season. don't care who else goes down.
gutted brighton and their new ground have gone and left us.
hopefully scunny will win a couple and send someone more interesting down instead.
looking forward to Bramall Lane back in our division.
accrington & torquay are new grounds for me so i hope they come up as i am selfish.
have chesterfield moved to a new ground now too?
many thanks

:owusu:
 

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Holysmit said:
My gut instict is Huddersfield are more likely to lose players if they don't go up. I could see Rhodes, Smithies leaving for a start.
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Not a chance. They have an owner who is a local that is willing to invest and maintain investment. If they don't go up, I would expect them to strengthen.
 

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Coming Down: the current botton three (Scunny, Preston , Sheff Utd) - although i do hope Palace replace Scunny - a good London day out in prospect. I've never visited Bramall Lane so might make that trip as well.

Coming up: Chesterfield, Wycombe and Bury - although would like to renew hostilities with Gillingham

Who will we miss playing next season?: I'll be sorry to lose Brighton and Southampton from League One - especially with the attraction of Brighton's new ground. They'll be joined (via play-offs) by Posh i reckon.

I'll shed no tears for Bristol R, Notts, Swindon or Yeovil . I hope Daggers stay up - another convenient London awayday.
 
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Don't care apart from the Wycombe White Horse being back on the agenda.
 

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Ambrose_1889 said:
I think it's the assumption that Palace have a stronger infrastructure to be competitive in this league next season than S****horpe.
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in that case, Bees fans should note our record against Charlton, Sheff Wed and Southampton in recent seasons !
 

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I thought this thread was about pill popping days and nights in 90s Ibiza.
 

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I hope the league looks something like this

Bournemouth
Brentford
Bristol Rovers
Bury
Carlisle
Charlton
Chesterfield
Colchester
Crystal Palace
Exeter City
Hartlepool
Huddersfield
Leyton Orient
Mk Dons
Notts County
Oldham
Peterborough
Preston
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Stevenage
Tranmere
Wycombe
Yeovil
 

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londondude said:
I hope the league looks something like this

Bournemouth
Brentford
Bristol Rovers
Bury
Carlisle
Charlton
Chesterfield
Colchester
Crystal Palace
Exeter City
Hartlepool
Huddersfield
Leyton Orient
Mk Dons
Notts County
Oldham
Peterborough
Preston
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Stevenage
Tranmere
Wycombe
Yeovil
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And if it looks like that by next May, I'd be delighted! :D
 

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Purely selfish reasons:

Palace, Preston and Sheffield United to come down.

All would be big games, Palace is local, got a friend been at uni in Preston, good weekend on the booze, Brammal Lane would be a new ground for me and I can't stand Mickey Adams.

Brighton (already up), Huddersfield and Southampton via play offs to go up. Huddersfield and Saints were the top two I picked pre season and both would be threats next season if they stay down.

Dagenham, Walsall, Tranmere and Notts County to go down. Wouldn't miss any of them. Tranmere and Walsall almost "deserve" it as they're regularly down there. Dagenham irritate me due to getting some good results against us frustratingly and Notts County under Ince were scum and their chairman came off as a total ***** when we signed Weston.

Chesterfield, Wycombe, Shrewsbury and Rotherham to come up.
New ground at chesterfield, I missed SHrewsbury when we were down there so a new ground for me there too. Rotherham in fairness I see a s league 1 team in general plus it'll be "interesting" facing Andys new team. Wycombe is nice and local plus it's the missus' hometown so is fun to winder her and her brother up when we beat them.

Having said that last bit, Ive almost fully converted the missus now to the point where she rips on her brother if they lose herself :D
 

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looking like a 3rd Division North next season with Preston, Sheff Utd, Scunny, Chesterfield and Bury joining us and losing Brighton, Saints (prob), Swindon, Plymouth, Brizzle R and D & R (prob). Not great IMHO.
 
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