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and i reckon Mr Allen WILL be going to pastures new...........i'd like to thank him for the fantastic 15 months weve had whilst heres been here........he saved us from relagation, got us in the play offs, a great cup run and MOST IMPORTANTLY put Brentford back on the map


thank you MA and good luck wherever you go :sorted:
 

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Agree with all of what he has done, but.................he bottled the play offs.
We should be going to Cardiff and he shouldn't be talking to Millwall. :sorted:
 

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NorthamptonBee said:
Agree with all of what he has done, but.................he bottled the play offs.
We should be going to Cardiff and he shouldn't be talking to Millwall. :sorted:

a tactical mistake in the 1st leg maybe, but the whole world knows about us again.....this should not be forgotten easily ;)
 

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Let's just give up and accept he's going shall we?
Brentford are potentially a far bigger club than Millwall, more suited to Allen's style of management and closer to his family home.
I personally think he'd be mad to go when he has just started a job here, but then the board may be the big stumbling block.
I would be extremely unhappy if he went especially given the way he has built things up.
The only hitch may be the board who I am almost certain won't be offering him an increase in his salary or any extra cash to see the job through.
That would be typical Brentford - to let the best thing that has happened here for decades slip through their fingers for want of a few dollars more.
 

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JimLevack said:
The only hitch may be the board who I am almost certain won't be offering him an increase in his salary or any extra cash to see the job through.
That would be typical Brentford - to let the best thing that has happened here for decades slip through their fingers for want of a few dollars more.

Agree that he may feel the Board do not match his ambitions or are difficult to work with.

Not so sure about the financial aspects though... maybe he got a sizeable bonus for reaching the playoffs? :fishing:

Next season will again be difficult financially. There will be few crowd pullers coming to GP. Let's invest what cash we have in the playing squad.
 

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JimLevack said:
The only hitch may be the board who I am almost certain won't be offering him an increase in his salary or any extra cash to see the job through.
That would be typical Brentford - to let the best thing that has happened here for decades slip through their fingers for want of a few dollars more.

BFC is in financial dire straits due to the previous regime spending money we never had. Throwing extra (non-existent) money at it aint the way to go IMHO - I for one would prefer BFC to live within its means.

MA has had a budget well above WD`s and, I believe, increased during the season. Decent (vital) revenue came in via the Cup run and play-offs but I think you`ll find that the playing staff did okay out of that as their bonuses are (rightly) performance-related.
Not knocking the achievements of this year, but IMHO financial backing has been provided. Not fortunes but realistic sums for a club in our perilous state...
 

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why would he announce the squad for next season and then go and leave? :confused: :wave:
 

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Because someone offers him more money and career advancement opportunity. Like you would.

murphalot said:
why would he announce the squad for next season and then go and leave? :confused: :wave:
 

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Boston Bee said:
Because someone offers him more money and career advancement opportunity. Like you would.
yeh but surely if he was planning on moving he wouldnt realise players and let a new manager come in and start the job afresh
 

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Boston Bee said:
Because someone offers him more money and career advancement opportunity. Like you would.


What by going to millwall,you're having a laugh.
 

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I have not anywhere else and did not here mention the 'M-word'. Didn't panic today; like you think it would be career suicide. I answered why he'd go through the squad thing then leave. It's still true today. It'll be true in June.


WILTSHIREBEE said:
What by going to millwall,you're having a laugh.
 

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I take your point Pete but sometimes you have to take a (slight) risk to get anywhere in life.
Had MA been given a little extra cash to bring in a proven striker in the final quarter of the season, we'd have gone up.
That would have brought considerable financial advantages for the whole of next season that would have far outweighed any outlay.
I take your point that we have to live within our means but anyone could see what we needed even before transfer deadline day and MA couldn't solve it with the monies available.
The players did well and the club did well but let's not be fooled - MA's playing budget was (and will be next season presumably) among the smallest in the league.
You can play it safe but I would have to see us throw our best chance of establishing ourselves as a Championship side wasted for want of a little bit of speculation.
 

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Maybe if the "management" at BFC weren't so keen to squander upwards of £200k on themselves, MA would get a few quid extra himself plus some bunse towards that much needed centre forward...
 

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VFTB - Why did you spend the whole season moaning then? :rolleyes:
 

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i went into a book shop today ,gone are the " get rid of Wally " books , and " wheres Wally ?" Hes stopped Pikeys going up from what I know .The books are replaced with " wheres the blood sucking ,financially draining little k unt who does **** all to my knowledge with intials JM "

My son wanted to purchase the book ,I said hes better off wasting our £40k else where .
 

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Bigbee said:
i went into a book shop today ,gone are the " get rid of Wally " books , and " wheres Wally ?" Hes stopped Pikeys going up from what I know .The books are replaced with " wheres the blood sucking ,financially draining little k unt who does **** all to my knowledge with intials JM "

My son wanted to purchase the book ,I said hes better off wasting our £40k else where .

lol
 

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LIve in hope he might not go.
I also thought the Tories would win the election.
Javine the Eurovision
 

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Re Eurovision , international out rage due to Bliar will all ways see us get " null points " or a couple more at most .

Politics within BU keep the non-acheivers in work .I am concerned with BC's posts ,Shirley no brown envelopes are involved ? God forbid ,a man of the cloth ,red and white through and through may now be tarnished for personal gain ?

Barratts wasnt it ?
 

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JimLevack said:
1.and MA couldn't solve it with the monies available.

2.The players did well and the club did well but let's not be fooled - MA's playing budget was (and will be next season presumably) among the smallest in the league.

1. Is that strictly true? He didnt have hundreds of thousands to throw at it but he DID have options which he chose not to pursue, as well as bringing Fitzgerald in.

2. Thats because - financially - we`re one of the most skint teams in the league. How many clubs in our division are £4.5m o/d :confused:

It doesnt matter if our manager is MA, Arsene Wenger or Joe Bloggs.....they would all want more money to spend, Jim. And they would all bend your ear about it :sorted:
 
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If he does leave i will be very anoyed that he made changes to the squad especially to release Deon Burton (mabye to sign him wherever he goes?) Also he says he will be reviewing some players situations later on, so mabye he wont leave. Personally i think he wont leave because he wouldnt go to millwall especially after releasing Ifill and Wise not staying on as a player. The only other job he would take is the West Ham, so lets hoope they win this weekend!!!
 

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I agree with PJ no more risking our clubs future. The club at present has no future accept to pray interest rates stay low and to hope for a cup run.
 

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JimLevack said:
Let's just give up and accept he's going shall we?
Brentford are potentially a far bigger club than Millwall, more suited to Allen's style of management and closer to his family home.
I personally think he'd be mad to go when he has just started a job here, but then the board may be the big stumbling block.
I would be extremely unhappy if he went especially given the way he has built things up.
The only hitch may be the board who I am almost certain won't be offering him an increase in his salary or any extra cash to see the job through.
That would be typical Brentford - to let the best thing that has happened here for decades slip through their fingers for want of a few dollars more.

completely agree with you jim
martin allen is now emotionally involved with brentford and the people that support the club.

i wouldn't blame him leaving for the premiership
and i would understand west ham
but millwall?!

what bothers me is that there's nothing on the OS
denying the millwall story

MA has usually been quick to scotch rumours in the past...
 

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flowerpower bee said:
completely agree with you jim
martin allen is now emotionally involved with brentford and the people that support the club.

i wouldn't blame him leaving for the premiership
and i would understand west ham
but millwall?!

what bothers me is that there's nothing on the OS
denying the millwall story

MA has usually been quick to scotch rumours in the past...

Yes there is :sorted:
 
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