Why I did it!!!!

[Spiderbee]

As you can probably tell,I have changed my name from Chrisbee to Spiderbee.With the Rivals sites being registered posters only I was getting confused with my various names on different boards.
I was also DoomBee3 on here as well.I made controversial postings so as to ascertain who was pro or anti Ron Noades and,to a degree it proved a success.
I rescinded control of the NTW website because of work and "other" commitments,namely I do not agree 100% with the preferred route being taken by the campaign.That is not to say that I don't support the campaign in principle,which I do.
It is just that I can see a different outcome to many on this board(and the beesotted one)!!
The change to Spiderbee is significant because of my allegiances to Queens Park FC in Glasgow,an amateur club with a great history and a place where everyone is welcome.
Over the past few years I have seen Brentford FC go through many difficulties and changes.Some of these changes are NOT for the better in my opinion.And there is little I can do to change things.
Football,like life,is changing and is totally ruled/ruined by money.
And I am fed up/bored with it all.
I will attend matches that appeal to me this season and onwards but I expect those to become fewer.
A lot of Bees fans have jumped ship in recent years;I wont quite do that.But,if there is not a marked improvement in club/fan relationships I foresee many more giving up.
I am against Ron Noades because I do not believe you can plan the future of a club when your own future ends in a years time.
I believe he should pass the club to the supporters and retire with some credibility as the man who didn't drag the club down(and out).How the club would fare should this happen I don't know.All I know is that Brentford FC as we know it will die in 2/3 years if this man has his way.
NO TO WOKING
KEEP BFC IN BRENTFORD
NOADES OUT
COMMUNITY CLUB FOR THE FANS AT GP

Apologies to those I upset as DoomBee3!!

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

you've taken the words straight outta me mouth Spider
bee - whats the point in ronald hanging around and moving us nearer to existinction when he's already announced he's off...........might be his parting 'gift' to us for all the horrible fings we said about him on here.......seems a revengeful sort of bloke so woking probably amuses him greatly.......could be wrong but i doubt it....!!!!!

 

[Fonzy]

*helicopter blades whir and guitar gets plucked randomly. After a whille starts singing This is the end... Beautiful friend. This is the end... My only friend, the end.*

 

[B2B]

Spider for president

 

[Bermondsey Bee]

spider should be nominated for chairman of the club when bias buy out knoades.

 

[Leicester Bee]

Good on ya Spider.
Incidentally, I'm interested to know which part of the campaign you don't have your heart with.
Something like this needs to be discussed, and sorted.
I haven't gotten as involved as i would have liked, so maybe I'm missing something.

To me, the campaign is symbolic of fighting any move whatsoever. From my point of view, it is also symbolic of fighting what Noades could do to us.
Inside information tells me that Noades is perceived to make decisions based on which side of the bed he wakes up out of.
I think that he has absolutely no real idea of our future, and therefore he has strung us along for quite some time now.
Wasting money on a team of "experts" to negotiate with the council has gotten us nowhere. My opinion is that he has made a huge F**K up, and his dreams of a couple of years ago are still as much of a dream now.
This is the sole reason why I would like to see Noades out, and us to stay at GP until we have no less than 100% guarantees that we are moving to a better home.

I don't know if you're still boycotting home games, but hope to see you for the aways.

 

[Mr Cynical]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bermondsey Bee:
spider should be nominated for chairman of the club when bias buy out knoades.</font>

Yeh, Chairman don't go to matches either...

 

[Spiderbee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mr Cynical:
Yeh, Chairman don't go to matches either...</font>

Interesting point!!

I will go as often as I can/care to.
Probably about 30 matches THIS season.
My attitude is reflected by many Bees fans I have stood on the terraces with since 1974 which is a shame.Still,a succesful on-pitch season MAY bring some back to BFC.I hope so anyway.Will you be at Wigan/Brighton/QPR/Huddersfield/Wrexham/Stoke/Bury etc etc Mr.C??
If so we can discuss this at length.If not then don't go spouting off about my NOT being at matches.

 

[Spiderbee]

TO LEICESTER BEE.

I am NOT boycotting home matches this season but will only attend when I can.See you v Norwich City!!

 

[Leicester Bee]

Going to Wigan, Spider? Hope to bump into you if you are.

 

[Spiderbee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Leicester Bee:
Going to Wigan, Spider? Hope to bump into you if you are.</font>

Can't wait

Last season was excellent.It might be TOO much to expect the same but I think Wigan are over-rated and I fancy our chances by the odd goal!!!!
We have a large following up there this season too

 

[Ace Face]

SpiderBEE - Let me first say I agree that supporting the BEES at the present time is not a plesent experience. Chairman who doesn`t want to be connected with the club, a supporters trust set up with ONLY 400 members,a campaign group set up to save our club and keep us in Brentford has only 30 active members and is constantly sniped at and to top it all a Council who refuse to back us in our fight for survival.

Chris - I to do not want to move from GP and unless the facts about a new stadium are made public, I will always say "stay at GP".

I feel you have a lot to offer our fight for a community club and to help ensure BEES UTD represent all views. Maybe we all need to look at why people like yourself feel that you are not comfortable being part of the campaign.
I do feel our differences are fine detail and would ask you to re-consider.

The NO TO WOKING campaign is wide embracing group of fans who are totally against moving from Middx and against moving to a new tin shack stadium.

Please come along to the next meeting call us all c@nts and have a beer.

Maybe one day in the future when somehow the BEES UTD Trust grows to 3000, we can force RN to answer "Why he did it!!!!", with regards Woking

[This message has been edited by BricklayersBee (edited 01 August 2001).]

 

[yateleybee]

Spider bee

It seems that you are on the verge of walking away from your club, like so many have done in recent times. However, when blokes like you threaten pre-season to scale down their support, i take it with a pinch of salt. You know, that when 3.00pm comes around on any saturday, there is only one place to be.

Yes, the dwindling support depresses us, but it will turn. Football is cyclical, and we will soon have our long awaited success.

 

[Spiderbee]

I will support the NTW campaign all I can and when I can!!I am constantly in touch with developments regarding BFC and the proposed move.1 or 2 developments over the next 2 weeks will decide our future I feel.
I will not walk away from the club....unless

....

BFC in Woking is NOT the BFC I will watch!

 

[Supes42]

Spider you are top man, I remember meeting you in the pub in Woking, I thought you were a complete loon! Of course you are a man who loves grass roots footy, I appreciate & respect thoroughly your view that footy is for the masses not corporate a**eholes, but with footy the way it is we have to accept corporate etc if we have any ambition at all. I will NOT accept the Bees selling GP b4 a new ground is underway, I am doing many things to ensure we have a good future, the sooner Bees United are able to control the club the better. So Spider I urge you and EVERY BEE to back our aims which we must seek to achieve with endeavor aplenty.

NO TO WOKING
YES TO FELTHAM
BEES UNITED
BEES FAN FOR CHIEF EXEC OF LBH

 

[Jimbo]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spiderbee:
I am against Ron Noades because I do not believe you can plan the future of a club when your own future ends in a years time.
I believe he should pass the club to the supporters and retire with some credibility as the man who didn't drag the club down(and out).</font>

Hasn't Ron Noades said that he is quite happy to sell the club to the fans as soon as they want it?

Hasn't it also been suggested that although Noades has spoken of leaving the chairmans post next season that he will stay on as a director or board member and oversee the new site development?

 

[lewis_ricardo]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jimbo:
Hasn't Ron Noades said that he is quite happy to sell the club to the fans as soon as they want it?

</font>

yes he did say that but i think secretly in the back of our minds that we as supporters could not afford it

 

[Tommy69]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jimbo:
Hasn't Ron Noades said that he is quite happy to sell the club to the fans as soon as they want it?
</font>

Yes, but BEES UNITED would have to be able to cover the @£3m overdraft and the large amounts of money that BFC are losing.

 

[lewis_ricardo]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tommy69:
Yes, but BEES UNITED would have to be able to cover the @£3m overdraft and the large amounts of money that BFC are losing.

</font>

wot did i just say above ^^^ u tell me that

 

[California Bee]

Brentford is Brentford and that's the club we love. All the owners, chairmen, directors, employees, managers, coaches, players, security etc are temporary custodians of their respective areas. Brentford for ever!

 

[lewis_ricardo]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by California Bee:
Brentford is Brentford and that's the club we love. All the owners, chairmen, directors, employees, managers, coaches, players, security etc are temporary custodians of their respective areas. Brentford for ever!</font>

exactly Mr C Bee