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Infatuated Bees Alter Ego
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any up dates as to the final score yet ?? couldn't make it as i've got the kids this weekend, but that means i can make next saturday instead!! come on you bees
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Infatuated Bees Alter Ego said:
I would of thought Martin would have fielded a strong team ,I hope he didnt now
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George
Dobbo
Frampton
Turner
Sodje
Owusu
Rankin
Tabb
O'Connor
The bloke form Iceland
Hutch
We were lucky not to be 3 down at half time.
Dobbo
Frampton
Turner
Sodje
Owusu
Rankin
Tabb
O'Connor
The bloke form Iceland
Hutch
We were lucky not to be 3 down at half time.
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My enthusiasm for the new season has taken a rather large dent this afternoon. If that's the best we can offer 1 week before the season starts then we might be in for an unpleasant shock ....
Dobson & Hutchinson just aren't good enough. Effort alone will only get you so far. I know Martin likes a tryer, but these two really don't share a football brain between them (or a great deal of ability) ... unfortunately at the moment I have a feeling we'll be starting the season with both of them!
We resorted to whacking the ball long again, because we have nothing in midfield. No creativity, no composure and no pace. Particularly once Ole went off, Frampton in centre mid was all we could come up with as an alternative. This was squad is really very very thin
The only plus points taken from today were Bankole looking alright again, DJ (again) and I thought Rankin & Tabb looked quite lively.
I just hope that Brooker & Newman when fit make a dramatic difference (and I'm sure Brooker will, having seen him) because make no mistake Woking played us off the park and 1-0 really flattered us. In isolation this might have been okay, but having been battered by Yeading too, I'm a little worried.
I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that we didn't have our foot fully on the gas today, as at the end of the day these results matter not one bit - but Martin implied we'd be going all out, being the last game before the big kick off.
Dobson & Hutchinson just aren't good enough. Effort alone will only get you so far. I know Martin likes a tryer, but these two really don't share a football brain between them (or a great deal of ability) ... unfortunately at the moment I have a feeling we'll be starting the season with both of them!
We resorted to whacking the ball long again, because we have nothing in midfield. No creativity, no composure and no pace. Particularly once Ole went off, Frampton in centre mid was all we could come up with as an alternative. This was squad is really very very thin
The only plus points taken from today were Bankole looking alright again, DJ (again) and I thought Rankin & Tabb looked quite lively.
I just hope that Brooker & Newman when fit make a dramatic difference (and I'm sure Brooker will, having seen him) because make no mistake Woking played us off the park and 1-0 really flattered us. In isolation this might have been okay, but having been battered by Yeading too, I'm a little worried.
I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that we didn't have our foot fully on the gas today, as at the end of the day these results matter not one bit - but Martin implied we'd be going all out, being the last game before the big kick off.
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I went to this game today, and I've gotta say we were dreadful. We were never in it. They looked several weeks fitter to me than us, they start next saturday with a local derby against Stevenage Borough. Bankole had another good game. Tabby tried hard but often ran right across the pitch in front of their midfield. Owusu looked fairly ineffective. As did Rankin. Really out of sorts. It looks as if we've tried every possible combination up front without any real success from any of them, apart perhaps from Owusu with his shirt tucked in his shorts and DJ with his right sock down?
Does MA know his best partnership upfront?
My instict says that with the new signings we are much strongewr in depth, but it just looked a million miles away today.
Really really poor from the Bees. Llyod Blackman looked a decent player for Woking (Ex Bees), maybe we let him go too soon?
Skullasson was booked for a tackle so late in the first half, I think the second half had kicked off. I fear he may be suspended for some games this season. Ian Selley showed the difference in class and experience between the midfields in the second half.
I just pray this was a dramatic off day.
I saw the Orient game too and again thought we looked far from settled.
I feel a bit worried to be honest... come on you bees!
Does MA know his best partnership upfront?
My instict says that with the new signings we are much strongewr in depth, but it just looked a million miles away today.
Really really poor from the Bees. Llyod Blackman looked a decent player for Woking (Ex Bees), maybe we let him go too soon?
Skullasson was booked for a tackle so late in the first half, I think the second half had kicked off. I fear he may be suspended for some games this season. Ian Selley showed the difference in class and experience between the midfields in the second half.
I just pray this was a dramatic off day.
I saw the Orient game too and again thought we looked far from settled.
I feel a bit worried to be honest... come on you bees!
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The news of Newman's injury and six week lay off is a real downer as I suspect he may be a real catalyst player for us. Unfortunately he has missed all Pre-season.
I feel we are going to start slowly again, which is a real shame if so, because if we start amongst it, it takes some early pressure away.
Really dissapointed by what I saw today.
I feel we are going to start slowly again, which is a real shame if so, because if we start amongst it, it takes some early pressure away.
Really dissapointed by what I saw today.
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Also, what about Sodje? He looks really out of sorts to me? I wished I'd asked MA how he is after all the close season speculation at the Q&A at GP. He looks like a different player at the moment. Anyone else sense something may be up with him?
MA took him off after 29mins today...
MA took him off after 29mins today...
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after today's dissapointing performance
i'm hoping that MA will be persuaded that
without newman and brooker we are critically
short of quality in midfield and to try for a loan signing
pratley's not even on the bench for fulham
why not bring him back for two months?
i'm hoping that MA will be persuaded that
without newman and brooker we are critically
short of quality in midfield and to try for a loan signing
pratley's not even on the bench for fulham
why not bring him back for two months?
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I often thought last season that the difference between us coping and getting a good kicking in midfield was the sometimes maligned Talbot. As for the forward line I remember Owusu flourishing at 1st Div level with a big guy to take the weight off him - Ben Burgess wasn't it? BBB had the class and Owusu the pace, enthusiasm and energy. Let's hope we only have to wait 6 weeks for Newman to recover and Owusu can recapture his best form soon.
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A feeling I have looking at the pre season games Ive seen is that I think our strikers are not taking on the responsibilities they should. Owusu looks like he genuinely enjoys playing with DJ but IMHO it looks as though he wants to continually set him up or thread a little delicate ball through for him. NOOOOOO! We need you to get your shooting boots on Owusu!!!
Only DJ so far looks hell bent on scoring goals. Owusu should stop trying to set up his young apprentice all the time! We need both of them firing at goal. That's when you have a real League 1 handful, a partnership who can both get a goal. Fitz maybe, jury still out for me, but he DOES have a good return so far. Isiah is another who seems content to try to pass rather than shoot.
Why!!!!???
We need them all firing at goal. All this selflessness in front of goal won't change of goals for column.
They can do it, I think we have the players up front now, we just need to find the blend and ensure thay all believe they have goals to contribute.
DJ is heads down, go for goal. Thats great.
The other three all look like they're busy trying to replace Deon and they're missing the point IMHO.
Only DJ so far looks hell bent on scoring goals. Owusu should stop trying to set up his young apprentice all the time! We need both of them firing at goal. That's when you have a real League 1 handful, a partnership who can both get a goal. Fitz maybe, jury still out for me, but he DOES have a good return so far. Isiah is another who seems content to try to pass rather than shoot.
Why!!!!???
We need them all firing at goal. All this selflessness in front of goal won't change of goals for column.
They can do it, I think we have the players up front now, we just need to find the blend and ensure thay all believe they have goals to contribute.
DJ is heads down, go for goal. Thats great.
The other three all look like they're busy trying to replace Deon and they're missing the point IMHO.
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Disapointing today, never really in the game at any stage although we did have 1 or maybe 2 good chances.
Really was an eye opener, although its only a friendly it was near enough our first team and with a week to go until we kick of our season im not as confident as i was 3-4 weeks ago.
Not impressed by anyone really today, but Eddie Hutch, Dobbo, Rankin and Fitz when he came on were all very mediocre and hardly inspire any confidence. Today was slightly less worse than the Yeading performance, we still lack something when going forward.
Was impressed with some of the skills their number 11 had on the left side of midfield, looked like a good player. Their striker who had a scuffle with George in the first half was pretty decent too, apart from that they were nothing special but they were no worse than us.
Really was an eye opener, although its only a friendly it was near enough our first team and with a week to go until we kick of our season im not as confident as i was 3-4 weeks ago.
Not impressed by anyone really today, but Eddie Hutch, Dobbo, Rankin and Fitz when he came on were all very mediocre and hardly inspire any confidence. Today was slightly less worse than the Yeading performance, we still lack something when going forward.
Was impressed with some of the skills their number 11 had on the left side of midfield, looked like a good player. Their striker who had a scuffle with George in the first half was pretty decent too, apart from that they were nothing special but they were no worse than us.
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We were poor today, even though it was just a friendly. Eddie was just Eddie today covered loads of ground, won a few headers but he is not able to be in the right place at the right time to nick the ball away and set up an attack in the way that Talbot used to. Dobbo ended up as central defender when Sodje came off towards the end of first half, and quite frankly did his best to underline that he is a real liability playing in that position. Having said that Turner did not look a lot better today, and was responsible for the goal when he never marked goalside of his man from a quickly taken throw.
George actually held a few shots, but then reverted to type when he juggled a few, and in the second half contrived to let one go off his shoulder and almost over the line. Campbell looked our most lively forward, quick and with some neat tricks and layoffs, and he forced the keeper into a good save in the second half as did Frampton and Tillen with excellent long range efforts. Tabb was full of running and would be so much better if other players played the ball back to him in the build ups a little bit more. Lloyd just missed a one on one, and Rankin missed a sitter (nothing new there then) but to be fair looked far more effective wide of midfield than up front.
Skullason did a Steve Evans two footed tackle/foul on....Steve Evans, and was booked. (both players were sensibly withdrawn at halftime), Tillen looks like a good footballer as does
George actually held a few shots, but then reverted to type when he juggled a few, and in the second half contrived to let one go off his shoulder and almost over the line. Campbell looked our most lively forward, quick and with some neat tricks and layoffs, and he forced the keeper into a good save in the second half as did Frampton and Tillen with excellent long range efforts. Tabb was full of running and would be so much better if other players played the ball back to him in the build ups a little bit more. Lloyd just missed a one on one, and Rankin missed a sitter (nothing new there then) but to be fair looked far more effective wide of midfield than up front.
Skullason did a Steve Evans two footed tackle/foul on....Steve Evans, and was booked. (both players were sensibly withdrawn at halftime), Tillen looks like a good footballer as does
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contd..... as does Skullason, but did not see him tested in the tackling department. Oh well it was just a friendly, and MA will have it all sorted by next week.......but I think he will have to earn his money with some of the squad!
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The main worry for me was that on numerous occasions our defence was beaten for pace and stranded the wrong side of their forwards.
Even Sodje was caught like this and when he went off we really struggled for pace throughout the side.
Was Sodje's substitution so early because he is carrying/picked up an injury or was it to wake him up to the realities of playing at his best at all times if he does want to progress to a higher league side.
A bad result but next week will be different, I think.
Even Sodje was caught like this and when he went off we really struggled for pace throughout the side.
Was Sodje's substitution so early because he is carrying/picked up an injury or was it to wake him up to the realities of playing at his best at all times if he does want to progress to a higher league side.
A bad result but next week will be different, I think.
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That was Lloyd Blackman. Thought he was OK - kept whingeing to the referee though, rather than concentrating on trying to get the better of Kev O'Connor, which generally he didn't.homerbees said:
George - mostly safe paid of hands but he gives me kittens, he truly does and I can't wait to see Nelson back in goal!
Dobbo - hate to say it, but very poor.
Sodje - withdrawn early, not sure why as he didn't appear to have been injured.
Turner (c) - turned easily several times in the first half as Woking played a lot of up and unders, but grew in stature through the game.
Frampton - seemed to be finding his feet at left back, then went to central midfield, where he would have been more effective with a better radar.
Kevin O'Connor - good at right back, good at right midfield - maybe we should try him between the sticks if Stuart Nelson doesn't recover in time for next Saturday?
Skulason - decent enough close passing, needs to turn and go forwards more. Very stupid tackle on Steven Evans.
Hutch - played like only Hutch can.
Tabb - ran confidently, but tended to go sideways too much.
Rankin - waste of space as a striker, but after he moved to right midfield, he was probably one of our better players today.
Owusu - signs of a partnership emerging with Campbell, shame he missed narrowly as it would probably have turned the game around for us.
DJ - he's got to start. Looks lively, very fast and has an eye on the goal. We were much better after he came on.
Tillen - Looks to be a very good left back coming forwards. Great shot from 35 yards. Wasn't tested severely in defence. Tough call between him and Frampton.
Fitzgerald - came on as a late sub for Owusu and didn't really do a great deal.
Mesinho - or Monsanto as the Woking announcer called him. Er, hardly had a kick.
Not a great performance, we missed Paul Brooker. I hope his injury is better than I heard today.
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Considering we are one week away from the start of the season and on paper that was a 'strong' side we put out, it was a poor performance.
We created little going forwards and didn't look like a side a couple of leagues above the opposition.
IMO we will not be pushing for a play off place or better unless there is a major improvement. I know 'it was only a friendly' but there wasn't any hint of class or ability to control the game.
We could be in for a hard season. We'll see.
We created little going forwards and didn't look like a side a couple of leagues above the opposition.
IMO we will not be pushing for a play off place or better unless there is a major improvement. I know 'it was only a friendly' but there wasn't any hint of class or ability to control the game.
We could be in for a hard season. We'll see.
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Edmundo said:
He was good, certainly a lot bigger than when he was at Brentford. But i was very impressed with his technique, although his passing was sloppy at times.
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Not a good performance - & to cap it off I was just about to start taking a few snaps when I found out I'd left my camera battery on the charger... at home... doh! :homer:
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Got to agree, not good.
Our trouble is, we have some strikers with good reputations who are trying to walk the ball into the back of the net, they seemd scared to have a shot.
Lloyd was elsewhere today, didn't jump, ran a bit, but not enough.
Rankin was consistantly mauled by the Woking defence, his shirt was pulled so much it is now a 10XL. Dudley has some pace him and looked good. When Fitz came on a bit of compusure came into the game.
When we passed the ball, we were OK, but we did resort to hoofing a bit.
Good to see Oli give Evans some grief
Our trouble is, we have some strikers with good reputations who are trying to walk the ball into the back of the net, they seemd scared to have a shot.
Lloyd was elsewhere today, didn't jump, ran a bit, but not enough.
Rankin was consistantly mauled by the Woking defence, his shirt was pulled so much it is now a 10XL. Dudley has some pace him and looked good. When Fitz came on a bit of compusure came into the game.
When we passed the ball, we were OK, but we did resort to hoofing a bit.
Good to see Oli give Evans some grief
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Not great, but not a disaster. I took some positives from the performance:
DJ was a right handful, full of neat tricks and a blistering turn of page. Kev was reliable, Tabby tried hard, Rankin was sturdy, and George only let one goal in (although came close a couple of times...
). Frampton had some good shots :love2:
Saw nothing of Skualson (sp?) or Hutch. Our midfield were never really in the game today.
Positives over. We weren't really very good.
More creativity needed - hurry back Brooker.
More skill needed - auf wiedersehen, Dobbo.
More goals needed - hopefully they'll come. I think Owusu & DJ look most likely to delivery them, although Fitz had a few nice touches when he came on.
DJ was a right handful, full of neat tricks and a blistering turn of page. Kev was reliable, Tabby tried hard, Rankin was sturdy, and George only let one goal in (although came close a couple of times...
). Frampton had some good shots :love2: Saw nothing of Skualson (sp?) or Hutch. Our midfield were never really in the game today.
Positives over. We weren't really very good.
More creativity needed - hurry back Brooker.
More skill needed - auf wiedersehen, Dobbo.
More goals needed - hopefully they'll come. I think Owusu & DJ look most likely to delivery them, although Fitz had a few nice touches when he came on.
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No panic... only a friendly....
More worrying was Bristol City and Scunthorpe scoring 11 goals between them in their respective matches today. The other thread about this division being a toughie this season could carry real weight.
More worrying was Bristol City and Scunthorpe scoring 11 goals between them in their respective matches today. The other thread about this division being a toughie this season could carry real weight.
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Brentford Bob said:
Friendlies mean **** all.
They do when it involves your first team against a pretty average non league side a week before the season kicks off.
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Well I can't really comment as I wasnt there but the thought of Hutch and Frampton in midfield..........
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Wasn't there, but I wonder if we'll see any new faces this week. No point paying either a loan or week to week contract for any longer than we need to so it could be that MA has kept someone up his sleeve until this week.
Jamie Lawrence? Darren Pratley? AN Other?
Jamie Lawrence? Darren Pratley? AN Other?
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homerbees said:
No they don't.
They are to gain match fitness. Nothing more IMO.
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Les Beeavinu said:
We all know Martin is no mug, and he'll (surely) know that a central midfield pairing of 2 from Ole / Hutch / Frampton (!?!) is not good or balanced enough. If we could get Pratley (or similar) that would make a massive difference, wouldn't it.
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The chances of us getting more players now that Broncos aren't playing at GP next season are less than zero - a long long way less than zero. In fact as the Broncos' absence has "punched a large hole in this years accounts" I would say that we'd have to get some plum draws in any cup runs before money can be added to the playing budget.
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Edmundo said:
I thought their left midfielder (lloyd blackman) def had the better of our right side , especially dobbo !! Better to lose this week than next though cos we were really poor . Can see Woking doing ok this season though.
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Brentford Bob said:
Well maybe Woking of the Conference were that much fitter with only a week to go ? Sorry mate dont agree,with our strongest possible team out we should at least be playing well and possibly hammering a few non league teams .If John Mac does the decent thing maybe we could use his salary on a loanee ????